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gotmeamovie
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158 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2007 :  01:44:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi all

got this album today. Although i found out it had been out in australia since the first!

I am blown away. I havent felt this kind of out there energy since toty, although i luv all of franks stuff. But this is more like the old self.

I have now heard all those songs that i couldnt hear on youtube and they are brilliant!

My fav atm is you cant break a heart and have it. Beautiful

Violet does a lovely job on this, great ot have female voice back

Plus the booklet has franks hand written lyrics, although hard to read

The guitar sound is just so raw yet lovely at the same time, how does he do it?

i luv black, ah i mean frank.

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wwgt
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USA
21 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2007 :  10:39:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree.... once again Frank has tossed out a masterpiece
as easily as I may wash my hands
Hey Frank --you totally rock man
i love the new cd and a I am continually amazed at your
brilliance
If you ever need ....call me man


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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2007 :  19:25:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ugggh...not released here in US yet!!! Can't wait until 9/11!



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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
488 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2007 :  03:59:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
has there been a lyrics thread?
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Crackity Craig
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United Kingdom
33 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2007 :  08:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ken Goes? Goes where??

Ok so I got my Bluefinger CD in the post today and I just noticed Charles/Frank/Black has a new manager Richard Hermitage! (also on the 93-03 "best of" album too). Ken Goes has been his manager forever so did they fall out or something?
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deathwatch3000
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United Kingdom
11 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2007 :  13:26:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
got album yesturday, absolutelty love it. think violet can sing really beatifully and i love the bits where she sings. mr black francis is doing some really magical stuff here. i hope he does a hell of alot more stuff with this band. i think you still have to be a frank black fan to really appreciate it. i think mainstream pixies fans may have this fly over their heads slightly. love every song instantly, which never happens to me with a black album, they normally grow on me.
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2007 :  13:27:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder

Ugggh...not released here in US yet!!! Can't wait until 9/11!



I'd rather be anywhere or doing anything


Bluefinger is a conspiracy theory.


Into the sea, you and me, all these years and no one heard.
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scruvs
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353 Posts

Posted - 09/05/2007 :  22:40:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh man, I thought it came out this week in the US. I'll have to wait until next week before I listen to my first Bluefinger tune. Luckily, I got NFL to get me through the weekend and my local record shop gets new releases on Monday night.


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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 09/10/2007 :  19:13:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aha!! my local record store says I can go ahead and buy it tonight! Gonna run out in about a half hour to finally get this thing!!



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Idalgo Clandestino
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Yugoslavia
104 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  06:07:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who knows why Black Francis included a song about sadomasochistic practices in a biography (sort of) of Brood? Are there any hints, that he (Brood) preferred such practices? Did i miss something?

Black Rubber - Tight Black Rubber...

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rodney
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USA
127 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  06:52:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tight black rubber is about heroin.
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Idalgo Clandestino
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Yugoslavia
104 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  07:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rodney

tight black rubber is about heroin.



so is t.b.r. a common alternative expression for heroin in the english language area? like junk or snow or gras... ?

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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  07:16:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might help, Idalgo:



There was a thread about this song when the album was leaked earlier this year that you might also find interesting.


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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  11:19:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had to schlep to THREE stores in and around Dallas to find this today. The first, a lousy corporate chain that I usually avoid (Border's), but it's right down the street so it was convenient; the second, a local independent (CD World) whose lack of Bluefinger made me dependent on another store; finally, another local indie (CD Source) had what appeared to be one copy and I claimed it.

I drove far enough away that I had time play exactly the whole album in the car on the way back home. My first time hearing it all and it's even better than I was expecting. For an album with such grim subject matter, Frank sounds like he's having a great time and the whole thing sounds like it was fun to put together. There's an audible happiness to the record, to my ears, at least. I do like the "family" vibe of it. Violet singing, Julian doing the sleeve art--that's nice.

I do like the packaging a lot. It's one of those cardboard sleeves that people here always complain about, but I dig 'em.

Edited by - Jason on 09/11/2007 11:19:44
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  11:23:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

I had to schlep to THREE stores in and around Dallas to find this today. The first, a lousy corporate chain that I usually avoid (Border's), but it's right down the street so it was convenient; the second, a local independent (CD World) whose lack of Bluefinger made me dependent on another store; finally, another local indie (CD Source) had what appeared to be one copy and I claimed it.

I drove far enough away that I had time play exactly the whole album in the car on the way back home. My first time hearing it all and it's even better than I was expecting. For an album with such grim subject matter, Frank sounds like he's having a great time and the whole thing sounds like it was fun to put together. There's an audible happiness to the record, to my ears, at least. I do like the "family" vibe of it. Violet singing, Julian doing the sleeve art--that's nice.

I do like the packaging a lot. It's one of those cardboard sleeves that people here always complain about, but I dig 'em.

Similar story here (Denver, the other another D-town). Independent Records didn't have it, and couldn't figure out why -- or who Black Francis is. "Uh, so the artist is named Black Francis?" So I schlepped over to Wax Trax and found exactly one copy on the shelf (filed along with the Frank Black CDs). I paid $15.98, which seems fair enough.

As for the packaging, I still don't like these kinds of sleeves (is it called a digipak?). They're rather underwhelming. You can hardly see them when you put your CDs on a shelf or whatever. Irrelevant, though, really. The album rocks.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

Edited by - coastline on 09/11/2007 13:25:46
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  13:08:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there's this record store near me (that got me fmrm a week before it came out) that i'm pretty dependent on, most stuff is used tho, so not much (or any) new stuff, usually. i'll pick it up this weekend fo sho.

also, cohen, i think detroit is the other "d-town". represent! okay i'm not from detroit, but close enough.


"How do you like that, Sir Harold?"

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debaserrr
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121 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  13:33:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by deathwatch3000

got album yesturday, absolutelty love it. think violet can sing really beatifully and i love the bits where she sings. mr black francis is doing some really magical stuff here. i hope he does a hell of alot more stuff with this band. i think you still have to be a frank black fan to really appreciate it. i think mainstream pixies fans may have this fly over their heads slightly. love every song instantly, which never happens to me with a black album, they normally grow on me.



im a "mainstream pixies fan" and love the black music i own!



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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

2923 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  15:42:27  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The album didn't arrive today in Puerto Rico:[ Borders and Specs have dissapointed me once again(the first time was with the release of the Best Of,all other Frank Releases had made it on release date down here in La Isla Del Encanto).

PUERTO RICO PIXIE
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  17:36:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good job pixie punk. I think it's cool, but not surprising, that he has fans down your way. Are you the only Puerto Rican poster we've ever had? You don't post that often but you've definitely been here from the beginning.

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treetime
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USA
217 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  17:41:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just got the album and listened to it and I would say it is a good time.
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  18:43:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

I had to schlep to THREE stores in and around Dallas to find this today. The first, a lousy corporate chain that I usually avoid (Border's), but it's right down the street so it was convenient; the second, a local independent (CD World) whose lack of Bluefinger made me dependent on another store; finally, another local indie (CD Source) had what appeared to be one copy and I claimed it.

I drove far enough away that I had time play exactly the whole album in the car on the way back home. My first time hearing it all and it's even better than I was expecting. For an album with such grim subject matter, Frank sounds like he's having a great time and the whole thing sounds like it was fun to put together. There's an audible happiness to the record, to my ears, at least. I do like the "family" vibe of it. Violet singing, Julian doing the sleeve art--that's nice.

I do like the packaging a lot. It's one of those cardboard sleeves that people here always complain about, but I dig 'em.



That's disappointing that CD World didn't have it. I went to Good Records Monday night and they had at least a few copies, but hard to say how many because they keep them stacked behind the counter mostly.

A few listens today really reminded me of Trompe Le Monde sounds at times. Interesting that the guitar is all Mr. Thompson instead of a guitar specialist if you will like Joey or Lyle or Rich. I'm wondering how that will sit long term with me. He does have his own sound on guitar, mostly in my opinion working best in combination with one of the other players but we'll see.

I like what I've heard on just about every song so far.

Stayed up so late listening last night that I overslept and was late to work this morning!



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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  18:54:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder
That's disappointing that CD World didn't have it. I went to Good Records Monday night and they had at least a few copies, but hard to say how many because they keep them stacked behind the counter mostly.



CD World can be very hit or miss with new releases, though it's not a bad store.

I was coming from Lewisville and the Addison CD World is the closest decent record store to me. Good Records is my favorite and I figured they'd have it, and I was going there, but then I spotted CD Source on the way and figured I'd try them out.

Anyway I've listened to Bluefinger about four times today. I like everything about it.
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someguy51
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Canada
30 Posts

Posted - 09/11/2007 :  22:40:42  Show Profile  Visit someguy51's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is even available in Canada? Wasn't at HMV and I checked a local store that's usually good (Megatunes) and it wasn't there either.
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Czar
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2007 :  03:47:22  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes it is released in Canada although not necessarily in stock everywhere.

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Idalgo Clandestino
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Yugoslavia
104 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2007 :  04:32:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

This might help, Idalgo:



There was a thread about this song when the album was leaked earlier this year that you might also find interesting.


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



thnx coastline!

bradbury vonnegut robinson
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2007 :  09:05:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The more I listen to this, the more it sounds like a natural follow-up to the kind of songwriting on Fast Man Raider Man, rather than a complete change from that. I haven't been following the Bluefinger discussion all of these months so maybe this has already been pointed out by 50 people here. I do love Fast Man Raider Man though, and have listened to it many, many times and I think songs like "Lolita", "Angels", "Bluefinger", and "Test Pilot Blues" would fit in nice and comfy on it. And it makes sense--it's the same guy writing the songs after all.

To me, this is a very good thing. The big fear I had with this record--even in the face of all the positive things said about it here since the beginning--is that it would be a transparent attempt at sounding "like the Pixies" and, as a result, be kind of dumbed-down compared to what Frank is capable of. Not that the Pixies music is "dumb", but that making an obvious attempt at reaching out to the large Pixies audience might turn out pandering and annoying. Thankfully, Frank is way too smart to fall into that trap--or maybe just incapable of making dumbed-down music--and the record is great and totally HIM.

Edited by - Jason on 09/12/2007 09:06:09
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pixie punk
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2923 Posts

Posted - 09/12/2007 :  11:49:34  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Good job pixie punk. I think it's cool, but not surprising, that he has fans down your way. Are you the only Puerto Rican poster we've ever had? You don't post that often but you've definitely been here from the beginning.



Hi Erebus.There's a great rock band scene down here and there are certainly more Pixies and Charles fans like me down here but I'm the only poster from here that's for shure.Some bands have made covers and there has been talk of forming a tribute recently.Everybody feel free to add request me at www.myspace.com/pixiehugs Some of you already knew me from my collaboration in aleceiffel.net(Spanish Section,Lyrics translations and Puertorrican References).As soon as Bluefinger arrives down here I'll post again my impressions!!!

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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 09/14/2007 :  06:54:01  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Frank's (or Francis', if you prefer) albums generally take some time to grow on me, and this isn't an exception, although I do quite enjoy some of the songs ("Angels Come To Comfort You" and "She Took All The Money" are my two favorites). And Violet's vocal contributions are great (and I'm not just saying this because I know she reads the forum sometimes). Overall, I'd say the album gets better after the first four songs, but I'm already starting to like those early ones better. I'm not sure I'll ever be that keen on "Tight Black Rubber," though.



"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares."
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/14/2007 :  18:45:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

The more I listen to this, the more it sounds like a natural follow-up to the kind of songwriting on Fast Man Raider Man, rather than a complete change from that. I haven't been following the Bluefinger discussion all of these months so maybe this has already been pointed out by 50 people here. I do love Fast Man Raider Man though, and have listened to it many, many times and I think songs like "Lolita", "Angels", "Bluefinger", and "Test Pilot Blues" would fit in nice and comfy on it. And it makes sense--it's the same guy writing the songs after all.

To me, this is a very good thing. The big fear I had with this record--even in the face of all the positive things said about it here since the beginning--is that it would be a transparent attempt at sounding "like the Pixies" and, as a result, be kind of dumbed-down compared to what Frank is capable of. Not that the Pixies music is "dumb", but that making an obvious attempt at reaching out to the large Pixies audience might turn out pandering and annoying. Thankfully, Frank is way too smart to fall into that trap--or maybe just incapable of making dumbed-down music--and the record is great and totally HIM.


I sort of agree that some songs sound like a natural progression from 'Fast Man/ Raider Man' and even sound like they would fit on that album. There are only a few songs I feel this about though. I mean, I can't imagine a song like Threshold Apprehension ever having anything to do with FMRM.

I do agree fully about it not sounding like he's making obvious attempts at reaching out to Pixies fans. Although this will definitely grab Pixies fans' attention more than most of his other solo albums I feel that those who have heard how FB's music has progressed through the years will benefit most. This is apparent from your references to FMRM. Just think how many Pixies fans gave that album a miss. I find it enjoyable picking up on these little comparisons and influences from his previous solo work in Bluefinger.


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kfs
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USA
889 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2007 :  08:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got the leaked version months ago and mr kfs was never interested. Now that it's been released, he's started listening a little and loves it! He especially likes "Angels.." and he listens to it over and over and over and over.

It's kind of getting on my nerves!
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Czar
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Canada
321 Posts

Posted - 09/17/2007 :  08:35:07  Show Profile  Visit Czar's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aha. So you're avant-garde and he's mainstream?

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moonruler
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USA
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Posted - 09/18/2007 :  18:10:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"angels..." is pretty darn good, though. kind of wish i had not seen the youtube videos of the leaked songs. it feels liked i opened my xmas gifts early. and i am really digging the songs "lolita"-"bluefinger"-"she took the money", which i had not heard before i bought the disc.

it is all just pretty darn good i tell ya, pretty darn good. i am trying not to play it too often.

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coryokeefe
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Posted - 09/19/2007 :  16:27:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this album is awesome. Whos goig to see him out tour??
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Jefrey
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USA
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Posted - 09/19/2007 :  23:12:43  Show Profile  Visit Jefrey's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Superabounder


A few listens today really reminded me of Trompe Le Monde sounds at times.



I thought this a weird comment at first, but I kind of agree in a way. Trompe Le Monde when it came out - the first time I listened to it it was like "oh my god awesome! after the first song, and then the second song was even better, and the third, and the fourth, and by the time you hit "Head On" you're thinking "this is a classic".

The whole thing just flows from start to finish, it's just a great, solid complete album.

I don't think it sounds anything like Trompe, but I definitely got that "this is what I was hoping for" feeling from it right away just like Trompe.


Qu'ils aillent se faire foutre <-- yeah, what he said.
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Pete Egress
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USA
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  11:08:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry this is a double post--posted in the rankings thread by mistake...

!!!!!!!!

I hadn't checked in here for a few months, and not only do I discover theres a new album--but one that celebrates everything I really love about Charles' music!

We've returned to the zany genius of Teenager of the Year. Though I've enjoyed each and every CD that he's put out thus far, I've always been more a fan of the "punky" energy of Frank/Francis/Charles' earlier work (and the Pixies of course) so this is a fantastic surprise for me. And Violet rocks too!! Love it Love Love it! Perfection. Thank you Frank!

Some of this reminds me of Franks first album (yellow-orange)
And some of it feels like Oddballs.
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Zsolt G.
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Posted - 09/28/2007 :  13:20:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting record. Sounds like a 90's indie-rock release, VERY bass heavy, and the guitar sounds like shit. I still feel like Frank could use a proper producer. The songs are good, but they could use a little polish. I heard a Ramones song from the 70's immediately following this record, and it sounded more produced. Also, I really think that these cuts didn't need the "extended jam" outro treatment. Discotheque 36 goes on like forever, fade it out already. Then there is the issue of if whether he's trying too hard. Lots of swearing, drug references and the obvious Pixies touchstones (girl backups, the name change, screaming).
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