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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
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 Posted - 06/26/2007 : 09:14:19
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i've picked up re-released versions of 'my aim is true' and 'armed forces' with the bonus discs lately. i'm liking these record companys doing this. i got most super furry animals cd's with bonus tracks.
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2007 : 09:26:05
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That actually brings up an interesting point re: Elvis -- I think I've purchased This Years model now 4 times. First on tape, then on original CD release, then on Ryko release with 'bonus tracks' and finally on the Rhino double-disc version. I don't know if that makes me a super-fan or a sucker! But if there was ever an album that I wouldn't mind buying again, it would probably be that one.
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spiring
- FB Fan -
Sweden
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Posted - 06/26/2007 : 23:49:58
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I´m a big enough fan to have all of his output, apart from that latest project together with someone that I don´t even recall now.
I love the "vintage" Attractions sound, with bass and keyboards up front and the guitar turned down... on the albums from This Year´s Model up to, and including, Trust, and later re-used for the brilliant but underrated All This Useless Beauty. His songs are mostly good on all other albums as well, but the production is not always as perfect as on those albums mentioned. Bruce Thomas' bass playing on them is fantastic. Too bad that he and Elvis can´t be in the same room anymore.
That being said, I also like albums like When I Was Cruel, Delivery Man, Mighty Like a Rose and Juliet Letters a lot. And I don´t think there are any albums that I dislike completely.
When I get a potato out
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spiring
- FB Fan -
Sweden
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Posted - 06/26/2007 : 23:59:11
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Originally posted by PixieSteve
i downloaded my aim is true and this years model because of this thread. i haven't had enoguh time to really get into them but i like what i hear.
Still, after so many years, I haven´t found out what is so great about My Aim is True... a pretty good album, nothing special. This Year´s Model, on the other hand, was fantastic the first time I heard it and is still one of his greatest. Everything´s miles better than Aim... the songwriting, the playing, the arrangements, the production... and the originality. (Watching the Detectives is equally great, IMNSHO, but wasn´t on the original Aim LP.)
When I get a potato out
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 06/27/2007 : 02:59:48
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Best live EC boot? For me, the solo acoustic show at the Royal Festival Hall 1984 and the acoustic show with T Bone Burnett at The Duke of York's 1985 (Billed as The Coward Brothers - fantastic between-song banter).
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spiring
- FB Fan -
Sweden
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Posted - 06/27/2007 : 03:58:09
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For me, the best live boot is This Is Tomorrow from 1986 - perfect sound quality, most of the songs from Blood&Chocolate the way I thought they should have sounded on the actual album, and a great performance overall.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2007 : 04:29:37
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Because of threadal influence, I was moved to get "Blood and Chocolate" yesterday. I was told it's Elvis' "Bluefinger," I guess because it was recorded pretty much live (like FB does). It does have a similar feel. Anyway, I've always been acutely aware of Elvis and how much I like his voice, and I do own a few things by him ... but suddenly I feel myself about to be sucked completely into his vortex, the way I was with only a few other artists, FB and R.E.M. included. I feel like rushing out and buying everything he ever recorded and then joining the Elvis forum.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/27/2007 : 06:37:07
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awesome. not only that you want all things EC, but that you said "threadal influence."
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 06/27/2007 : 07:39:53
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That was for you, Jose Jones.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2007 : 16:19:23
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how about EC songs that you don't like? i'll start.
from a whisper to a scream (hate it)
high fidelity (not really a fan. i wouldn't skip it, though)
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 06/30/2007 : 16:54:35
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There's a slower live guitar harp version of High Fidelity that really turned me on to it. I'll load it up tomorrow Jose. I'm not crazy about the Tilbrook duet either. There's lots I don't like from the more recent output. The North album for a start. Dismal.
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2007 : 07:50:42
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Originally posted by Jose Jones
how about EC songs that you don't like? i'll start.
from a whisper to a scream (hate it)
high fidelity (not really a fan. i wouldn't skip it, though)
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I actually like From A Whisper To A Scream although I think it would've been better without Glen Tilbrook.
Ignoring most of Costello's output from the mid 90's onwards (which I don't like), these are some of the songs that don't do it for me:-
Big Boys (Armed Forces)
Love Field, Sour Milk Cow Blues (Goodbye Cruel World)
Sneaky Feelings (My Aim Is True)
Let Him Dangle (Spike)
Human Touch - apart from the middle eight - I'm getting anal now (Get Happy)
After the Fall (Mighty Like A Rose)
Also not a fan of his country phase and a lot of King Of America I find boring. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/01/2007 : 08:25:40
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Here's a searing acoustic version of This Year's Girl from a show at the Albert Hall.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sj5glp
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
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3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2007 : 09:06:40
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Elvis had a country period, too? Is he the proto-FB? (Not just cuz he had a country, of course. There seem to be a lot of connections.)
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2007 : 09:38:30
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 07/01/2007 : 09:47:39
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Originally posted by coastline
Elvis had a country period, too? Is he the proto-FB? (Not just cuz he had a country, of course. There seem to be a lot of connections.)
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
check out "different finger" from Trust. King of America was played with classic session guys and produced by T-bone Burnett.
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Originally posted by trobrianders
Here's a searing acoustic version of This Year's Girl from a show at the Albert Hall.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sj5glp
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awesome! thanks!
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/01/2007 : 12:49:01
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Originally posted by coastline
Elvis had a country period, too? Is he the proto-FB? (Not just cuz he had a country, of course. There seem to be a lot of connections.)
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
I'm thinking that too. They're both in rock 'n' roll. There are only so many avenues I guess.
Here's two more. Peelies Blame It On Cain and Pump It Up.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vt1qhm
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Edited by - trobrianders on 07/01/2007 13:32:26 |
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 14:24:05
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| You know someone should be able to find an interview where we hear FB musing over if he's becoming or if he'd ever be likely to become Elvis Costello, I think I heard him say this in refrence to his changing musical patterns around Honeycomb, but it might have been eariler... anyone remember this sorta tossed-off comment? Was it "Ill never be Elvis Costello" or someting like "I woke and thought, oh my god I've turned into Elvis Costello?" If I recall correctly it was a complimentary (to Elvis) comparison, but I can't remember exactly the content of the thought..... |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 08:09:33
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Oh yeah I remember. He was saying when he was younger he wrote songs with a lot of words in them and that meant they were generally bad songs, 'unless you're Elvis Costello or something'. This in reference to a supposed obliqueness in Pixies songwriting. You're right it was complimentary to Elvis. I'm glad he took up Elvisy lyric writing though, like with Sing for Joy or St Francis Dam Disaster. He's a better writer than Elvis IMO, which is saying a lot.
Lyric writing's like an act of faith almost, not least that your audience is gonna get it. So when FB sings 'Give me one little blip, and I'll totally flip', he says so much without needing to expand on it. Elvis, like most left-leaning artists, doesn't have quite that faith and ends up trying to grab them by the nose ring screaming. Elvis is always lauded as being 'England's greatest song-smith' and he rightly dismisses all that as hot air. He said a lot of his early writing was like 'party tricks'
It's interesting to point out the comparisons but coastline's right not to make too literal a connection. And like I said there's only so many avenues guys like that can take. Maybe a duet's not far off.
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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =
Thailand
313 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 08:34:02
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That’s really nicely written.
When I think of ‘left leaning’ I always think of one of EC’s contemporaries; Billy Bragg who for obvious reasons certainly wanted to grab nose rings (to borrow one of your phrases), but he had a very clear agenda in his songwriting I suppose. However, a lot of other ‘lefties’ were and are very obtuse such as David Byrne, Morrissey, Michael Stipe etc.
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 09:36:40
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
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Wade
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 10:03:40
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EC and his music is like fine wine. He and it get better with age, whether it's the older songs sounding better as they stand the test of time, his new albums continuing to sound true at this later stage in his career, or just my appreciation for his greatness as I age.
I don't think I've heard anyone mention how good "The Delivery Man" was. Great album, released 2004. Notable songs, Delivery man, The Name of this thing is not Love, and Needle time, but most of all "Button My Lip". Just awesome.
Coincidentally, the Delivery Man tour was the last time I saw him live, at Austin City Limits Music Festival a few summers back, and he went on the day after the Pixies did. Both were great shows, but Elvis reminded me at that show (95°+ and he wore a purple suit, phew) just how much I appreciate his music as well as his charisma as a performer.
Anyway, I think from the other posters insistance that "Blood and Chocolate" is deemed as many people's favorite, I will have to go ahead and get it now... |
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
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260 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 10:38:55
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oh? why?
Well, perhaps I'm biased, as this was the first EC effort I heard, and it blew my mind. Now, I love My Aim is True as well, but it really isn't the full-on mind-blower on first listen. The band isn't quite as tight, the songs aren't quite as intense, so I would just suggest if its your first foray into EC that you couldn't go wrong getting inspired by This Years Model and then continuing into his other stuff.
In any case they're both great, but This Years Model is damn near perfect. (Radio Radio included!) |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
469 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 11:00:52
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| Just thought of another FB connection - Costello covered 'Dark End Of The Street' a few years ago. |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 16:16:37
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Jose Jones, I can't find my Trust CD, but reading your post made me want to hear "Different Finger" so I downloaded it- great song. That's always been one of my favorites.
Another of his country songs that I like is Bruce Springsteen's "Brilliant Disguise". I think it was a b-side from a Brutal Youth single and is on the re-issue of Kojak Variety.
By the way, the "13 Steps Lead Down" EP has three great b-sides "Puppet Girl", "Basement Kiss", & "We Despise You". It's worth buying if you see it somewhere.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 18:23:02
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Which of the others' songs can you see them covering? I'd go for Lipstick Vogue and Humboldt County Massacre.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/10/2007 : 18:44:20
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Originally posted by Srisaket
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Originally posted by coastline
There's a lot to love about Elvis: his name, his voice, his songs, his style, his glasses.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.
His wife
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 20:40:21
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Originally posted by trobrianders
His wife
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2007 : 20:42:06
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| I'd think that Radio, Radio would be a great one for FB to cover -- can't you just see him snarling the words "anesthetise the way that you feel!"? |
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 06:01:22
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it'd be cool to hear elvis do "abstract plain."
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 07/12/2007 : 08:15:08
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Abstract Plain. Good one.
mikaelp75 and langdonboom have both mentioned Baby Plays Around. It'd be cool for FB to cover it in a BLD Cold Heart Of Stone/How You Went So Far kind of way.
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
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260 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 08:30:57
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| I would leap for joy if FB covered ANY elvis or if elvis covered ANY FB.... but these suggestions are brilliant. |
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =
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469 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 09:22:09
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Elvis Costello. let's discuss.
