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backdoor
- FB Fan -
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 Posted - 06/11/2007 : 18:34:06
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Prinzenbar, Kastanienalle 20, 20359
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2007 : 23:14:04
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YES! - on one hand.
It's the day after tomorrow, damnit - on the other. Why on such short notice?
Will try to get there. Got to check this now. |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/11/2007 : 23:17:30
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 05:38:35
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Surely not? That's virtually free!!
 "Aw yeah, that's the good stuff!" |
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frankburns
- FB Fan -
Germany
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 06:10:28
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€1.50 a beer? You gotta love Germany.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 06:31:16
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In paris it's free, if you manage to get into the club, but they'll charge you for 10€ a beer...
"un jour tu connaitra cette detresse de pres ou de loin, je peux te le jurer" - Ofabsis |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7442 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 06:41:03
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... of course, when we say "a beer", we mean "25cl of half-beer, half-water, in a plastic glass".
When James and I went to see Guitar Wolf a few years ago, he went for the drinks and I can't forget the look on his face when they gave him the glasses. There's a reason why there's virtually no night life in Paris.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 07:15:00
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After work I will get me a ticket. The advance fee is 1,-€ so the ticket will cost me 4,-€ in total. Surreal.
Frank is going to play a one hour set, I was told. And they still got plenty of tickets left. The nice lady on the phone was surprised that I was coming from Berlin to see this.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 06/12/2007 : 07:53:59
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Originally posted by frankburns
http://www.docks.de/rahmen_prinz.html
yes: 3 euro...and a beer will cost 1,50!
should be a great evening!
I honestly can't believe it.
"Aw yeah, that's the good stuff!" |
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 09:17:08
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"...On my way to Hamburg and we had a little booze..."
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 14:24:17
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Originally posted by Carl
Surely not? That's virtually free!!
The thing is, on a normal thursday "indie" night the admission is free at the Prinzenbar. Only this time, because it is somehow special, with Frank Black performing and all, they charge three euros.
I got the ticket for 4,50€. Greedy middlemen, ripped me off! (50% more than the price at the club!!!) 
Still can't believe it. The Prinzenbar seems to be a small club. And it's only three hours away from Berlin. Frank is playing there virtually for free. With his new power combo! And I got a ticket in my pocket.
LIFE IS GOOD!
Now the tricky part will be to get back till the next morning, since I have no car and have to be in Berlin at eight o'clock in the morning. Working on it.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 06/12/2007 : 21:56:39
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Hey J! Finally got your show! Have fun!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 03:56:24
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Is this a secret show like the Paris one, kella? I was thinking maybe that's why it was virtually free.
"Aw yeah, that's the good stuff!" |
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Idalgo Clandestino
- FB Fan -
Yugoslavia
104 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 05:08:56
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i f***ing envy you, northern germans!
(but one day he'll perform in Novi Sad, i swear,
no matter if it's 2037 or so)
and then a miracle occured: the whole world got better |
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frankburns
- FB Fan -
Germany
17 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 07:37:35
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[quote]Originally posted by Carl
Is this a secret show like the Paris one, kella? I was thinking maybe that's why it was virtually free.
the show has not been mentioned in any newspaper, there are no posters.
it was mentioned on two (small) websites and on a very small radio-station.
not secret, but almost secret...
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 10:20:55
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Is anyone else from here going?
Come on all you german lurkers, this is your chance. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 14:13:51
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Have a great night Julian. I really envy you.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1036 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2007 : 22:58:21
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julian you are a lucky man. hope you will be wearing the shirt ! make some nice pictures of the show...
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7442 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2007 : 00:55:14
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You're gonna have a blast, trust me.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2007 : 05:43:45
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Ooh, the anticipation is building up. Not only because of the small venue, the new songs, the new band, all the juicy info in the Paris thread, the chep beer, etc... But ALSO because this is going to be my first FB gig ever.
During the reunion tour I went to see the Pixies in Berlin, after which, while searching the net for a setlist, I discovered the wonders of fb.net. But I never saw him perform his solo stuff.
And Michael, of course I'm going to wear the shirt! If this isn't THE occasion, then what is? I'll have a drink for the other proud owners. Each.
Oh, and no photos or taping from me, I'm afraid. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7442 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2007 : 06:04:02
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Forgot to add... as remig warned me about, beer (25cl bottles of Heineken) cost 8 eu-fucking-ros. I was about to tip the barman but quickly put the coin back in my pocket. Yeah, I'm that cheap.
Denis
"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say." |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2007 : 09:21:35
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| go get your fix, kella. i'll be waiting for your return. |
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 06/14/2007 : 09:40:06
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| have fun Germsters |
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frankburns
- FB Fan -
Germany
17 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 00:32:12
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yes, we had fun.
the queue was very long,the prinzenbar was packed.
frank and the band all dressed in black (even frank's fingernails!)
never been closer to the man...
setlist was similar to paris; differnt order: starting with l.a., finishing with black rider, not playing re-make, re-model, no encore.
sound was really good, band and audience definitely had a great time.
...and i had to pay 2.50 for a beer.
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ludwig
- FB Fan -
Germany
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 04:39:37
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Yes of course it was great to see frank black after nearly 4 years back in town and it was great to listen to non-pixies stuff. California bound, Old Black Dawning, Freedom Rock, nearly the whole bluefinger… it made me wanna dance and scream and die at a failed stage diving BUT – that is why it wasn’t that great concert for me – at this concert I certainly would have had died if had tried stage diving - it was like: hello, is here anybody else who knows this songs and is absolutely fallen for franks music – there where like 3 people dancing, the rest was nodding their heads or standing around! Dam it! Move your ass!
An hour before the concert I was outside waiting for some friends to give them tickets. It turned out that I had one ticket left, and there was a crowd of I think 100 or more people trying to get in. So I didn’t know to whom I should give the ticket (sorry for my English btw) So I decided to give it away for free to the one who could answer the question:
whats the name of the yet unreleased album frank black has recorded recently using the name black francis?... No answer. Staring crowd.
Second question: Name your favourite song from SMYT…. No answer. Staring crowd. …
I gave up and just sold it for the 4 euros I paid. And that’s my point: I enjoyed the concert but either there were just too much people there because he’s the pixies guy and it was cool to be there OR it was just typical concert in Hamburg. Some hundred people with a stick in their ass. I think it was both. I know a lot of people won’t agree with my opinion and everybody should enjoy Franks music the way he/she wants but I wish there would be some more enjoying it the way I do.
Ok at the last song people where dancing a little bit more, but guess what song it was: Rockafeller Skank from Fat Boy Slim – finally a song they seemed to know. Dam it!
Concerning frank and the music: it was indeed strange that he didn’t play guitar and just sang. And I think some songs wouldn’t do worse if there was a rhythm guitar in it. But the band was really great I didn’t hear any parts where I thought, they are still working on it. Especially Treshold Apprehension was so intense and just like on the record. The guitarist sang really good backing vocals.
Funny situation: after the concert a girl came onto Frank asking for signing a cd or sth. (ok she must have been a fan – I admit :-) and called “Frank, Frank, …” and a guy also started with “Frank, Frank…” and standing in front of him he asked “… where is the toilet!”. Frank was, well, not amused, and just passed by.
So far I really enjoyed it but I hope for a more devoted audience in Amsterdam.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 04:59:17
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Great report, Ludwig. Thanks! And thanks for the detail about the black nails, frankburns. This is great stuff.
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 05:15:43
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Here's the setlist:
Los Angeles
Robert Onion
Freedom Rock
Lolita
Captain Pasty
You Can't Break A Heart And Have It
All My Ghosts
Threshold Apprehension
Old Black Dawning
Tight Black Rubber
Ten Percenter
California Bound
Massif Centrale
Thalassocracy
Your Mouth Into Mine
Dead Man's Curve
Manitoba
The Rockafeller Skank
Black Rider
What a hard rocking set of songs and what a hard rocking performance!
They played a bit over an hour. All the songs from the Paris show, in a different order, plus Dead Man's Curve.
More later. |
Edited by - kelladwella on 06/16/2007 02:55:47 |
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
Chile
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 06:59:25
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| Does any recorded the show??!!! damn I want to listen it!!! |
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 07:16:47
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Thank for the reports!
Dead man's Curve with this band, it must have been awesome.
"un jour tu connaitra cette detresse de pres ou de loin, je peux te le jurer" - Ofabsis |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 07:58:05
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| It was. |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 08:00:15
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| And ccuadros, I haven't seen anyone taping, but I sure hope that someone did. There was a bit of filming going on. Mostly from band or club crew I think. |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 06/15/2007 : 08:36:13
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Ok, where to begin?
This was my first visit to the Prinzenbar but I liked it immediately. The location is pretty small, holding about 300 people I was told. All walls and the (quite high) ceiling are richly covered with stucco ornaments and figurines, it has different levels on where to stand, there is this really big mirror over the wooden bar. The place has just a nice atmosphere to it.
The stage is very small and meets with the bar on one end. That was where I was standing. This particular position had lots of advantages. Very near to the band, about third row, with a pretty good view of the band, I was even able to read Frank's and Ding's setlists.
Plus I could lean on the counter to enjoy the show and had a constant beer supply. (3,-€ for me,frankburns, since I didn't want to drink that crappy Astra. Don't know what happened to the promised 1,50€.) The only downside of this spot was, that it had one of the speakers right next to it. Therefore sound quality wasn't that great for me.
The show was intense. Frank was rocking out very, very hard and got into screaming mode pretty often. Insane screams!
The band looked very concentrated. There was quite a bit of interaction going on between them: exchanging of looks, Frank counting with his fingers or making little gestures.
The drummer seemed relaxed during the whole set. I didn't have the best view on Ding. Who sure has an air of solid punk. Charles Normal on the guitar got into some heavy strumming from time to time an did a good job with the backing vocals. After the show I saw the two giving autographs and later enjoying a beer, chatting with each other.
As ludwig said, it wasn't the most enthusiastic of crowds. People seemed to have their fun, but there wasn't too much reaction going on. I saw a few people singing along or recognizing songs. But had my fun nonetheless. As much as I had enjoyed being part of a happily dancing and singing crowd in front of the Pixies on their last concert in Berlin, this time I was just happy to see the man from this close. From the moment they started I had a grin on my face and sang along. Admittedly, a bit more crowd motion and appreciation would have been nice.
What else? At the beginning of the show Frank opened a bottle of mineral water and it exploded in his hands due to overpressure. Later he asked his roadie for a glass of red wine and had several refills.
Oh, and the Prinzenbar is located in St. Pauli's red light district. The ladies who work there are a tough gang with a pretty aggressive marketing and customer acquisition attitude, I learned on my way to the concert. Dangerous turf for an innocent visitor.
Hey, ludwig and frankburns, where did you stand? |
Edited by - kelladwella on 06/15/2007 09:07:24 |
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ludwig
- FB Fan -
Germany
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 10:29:13
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Hi kelladwella,
I was in the middle of the crowd in front of the stage but due to my attempts to dance sometimes I was more left then right and then in the middle again... it was a really small stage :-) and although the prinzenbar was really full to bursting (thanks www.leo.org for this expression) you had just to do a little dance and you had your space :-)... ok. I stop complaining now! It was great and the last songs I decided to enjoy just watching the band too. So I got up the stairs on the little balcony. From there I had a great view over the whole location and the stage.
A colleauge of mine also appeared at the show because one of the roadies is his cousin. We went for a drink in a bar in the neighbourhood but I didn't asked him about Frank I just told him that I'm really into Franks work and not only the pixies. Some minutes later he came whith a package of guitar strings - only the package :-( - and the towel that Frank has used while the show and asked me if I wanted it. I really had to laugh I took the string package to look at it and here's the information: the guitar player played Earnie Ball Strings 10-13-17-30-42-52 string gauges! I didn't know what to do with the towel. no offense to Frank but a sweaty towel is a sweaty towel and a sweaty towel is kind of icky - so I gave it to another colleague who claimed he's lacking towels at home and said it can be washed. You guys will probably kill me for that. :-) I even had the chance to join the band and the tour crew for something to drink, but I thought Frank has leisure-time and it should be just about the music. He isn't Justin Timberlake and I'm no 14 yr old girl. And of course I didn't have the guts! Later that night the dj in that bar played one of franks song. Of course it was from the pixies. And of course it was “where is my mind”. And for a moment I really had the desire to go to Frank and cheer him up.
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 13:21:50
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Sounds like a festival-sized setlist - man, maybe I'll have to get some tickets to Werchter after all!
I'm in the Netherlands from June 23 to July 2nd, which is precisely the week that FB is everywhere *but* the netherlands :-( (Yes, his first show in the country is the day I am flying out...)
Werchter tickets are soo expensive though, even at face value!
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HAMBURG THURSDAY NIGHT JUNE 14
Are they putting gold in it or what?!