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The King Of Karaoke
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Superabounder
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kathryn
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 Posted - 05/28/2007 : 20:25:03
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Another Republican from Texas for president? That's as unlikely as a gay black man from the South becoming a supermodel. Oh wait a minute, that happened.
I got some heaven in my head
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The King Of Karaoke
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kathryn
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 20:37:31
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Must...resist making R Kelly joke.....
I got some heaven in my head
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awestruck
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 20:45:59
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after watching a couple of the ron paul clips, i like what the guy is saying. but he could be like every other candidate. u know say one thing and do another. as for everyone having the same rights and all, i like this quote:
Maureen Reagan: I will feel equality has arrived when we can elect to office women who are as incompetent as some of the men who are already there.
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 20:56:26
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I have full confidence in Ron Paul's sincerity because I've been reading his syndicated articles in my alternative news paper "American Free Press" for over a year now. I was hoping he would run and when he announced, it was like a dream come true. I've also seen him in a bunch of videos and heard him on different radio programs. They call him "Dr. No" in Washington because if it's against the constitution or in any way harmful to America, he votes no. The guy is legit. I'm certain you'll be hearing alot more of this man. Maher fully supports him after the first interview he had with him. Of course most of mainstream media is doing whatever they can to demonize him.
Now the rest of them on both sides scare the hell out of me. |
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awestruck
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 21:12:08
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well i will definitely keep my eye on him too. like i said out of everyone i know anything about i like what he said best in the maher clip. i definitely want the US to fix the wrong here in our country BEFORE going to other countries trying to act like the US has it all together. But thats just my opinion. and i do support our troops because i think you should support our soldiers even if you don't agree with the war. I think the US could do with a pres like Ron Paul if he is genuine. thanks for the info.
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darwin
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 21:26:47
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| I read that he wants to get rid of income taxes. Do you know what he proposes to replace that revenue with? |
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 21:49:15
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He says it best but basically the only way we can rid ourselves of the federal reserve is we have to stop policing the world and looking to the government to keep us safe. Did you know the Fed is not even a government agency? It's a private bank owned by thirteen elite families. Queen Elizabeth owning the controlling shares if I understand it correctly. The IRS being their collection agency. Our forefathers spent so much blood freeing themselves from the tyranny of England and now their children somehow sit arm and arm with Britain colonizing the planet through force. If we are going to continue to look to the government to provide our safety we will never be able to free ourselves of the fed.
Watch this video to learn more about many of the things that are wrong with the federal income tax. Foremost being that it is an illegal tax. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=freedom+to+fascism |
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awestruck
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 21:53:09
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[quote]Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
Did you know the Fed is not even a government agency? It's a private bank owned by thirteen elite families. Queen Elizabeth owning the controlling shares if I understand it correctly.
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i remember my economics professor saying this about it being owned by 13 elite families. but i didn't know the part about Queen Elizabeth owning the controlling shares. interesting...
Favorite Quote: awestruck is a she, she's a she. -trobrianders
ok i have watched only the first few minutes of that documentary: America: freedom to fascism, and i am already mad and i still have to watch the rest. maybe it is time i pay more attention to politics and what is going on in our government... |
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 22:06:07
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awestruck
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 22:18:41
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please keep me informed please. I am in the process of watching the documentary. very interesting stuff. I would love to know more.
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The King Of Karaoke
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darwin
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 22:39:59
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
He says it best but basically the only way we can rid ourselves of the federal reserve is we have to stop policing the world and looking to the government to keep us safe.
I want the government to help keep me safe. That means having a well funded FDA that's a not tool of the pharmaceutical companies. Food safety inspectors that help insure that our food isn't contaminated. And so forth. I even want a military.
Paul's small government utopia doesn't sound much different than Grover Norquist's. He once said, "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub." I think we've seen in the past 6 years the outcomes of underfunding government agencies and heading them with people who despise government. |
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darwin
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 23:04:29
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
Well, I knew from your post you were not actually looking for an answer and only looking to incite an argument of sorts. I've also learned over the past year that there is a certain percentage of people in the Unitied States that are going to believe what they want to believe no matter how much people try to wake them from their mass hypnosis.
First of all can your superior attitude. I don't need you to wake me from my hypnosis. How do you know you aren't the one hypnotised by Libertarian documentaries?
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I won't have these arguments with you Darwin. We had them a few years back about Iraq. Remember? You were wrong then just as you are wrong now.
Second, you've got a bad memory. I've never ever been in favor of the war in Iraq.
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You want the government to keep you safe? My question is: Whose going to keep us safe from the government?
That would make a great movie poster. Perhaps you can find it on YouTube. |
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 23:20:04
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Sorry about the superior attitude. Blame it on Bowie. He made me realize I was a"homosuperior" way back in 72 - http://youtube.com/watch?v=pBQ-S6njQQw
Now as far as Iraq debates... Maybe that was Dallas? Sorry if that's the case. I thought you were in with that gaggle back then.
The hardcore Libertarians scare me. Trust me Paul is the only one offered that can save us.
Who do you like? Rockefeller and Co. own all the mainstream candidates. What's wrong with that you ask?
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/UN_Rockefeller_Genocide.html
Bush family Nazi ties: http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&hl=en&ned=us&q=prescott+bush+nazi
http://www.google.com/search?tab=nw&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&ned=us&q=the+georgia+guidestones
Population Control, Nazis, and the U.N!
by Anton Chaitkin
ROCKEFELLER AND MASS MURDER
The Rockefeller Foundation is the prime sponsor of public relations for the United Nations' drastic depopulation program. Evidence in the possession of a growing number of researchers in America, England, and Germany demonstrates that the Foundation and its corporate, medical, and political associates organized the racial mass murder program of Nazi Germany.
These globalists, who function as a conduit for British Empire geopolitics, were not stopped after World War II. This United Nations alliance of the old Nazi right, with the new left, poses an even graver danger to the world today than it did in 1941.
Oil monopolist John D. Rockefeller created the family-run Rockefeller Foundation in 1909. By 1929 he had placed $300 million worth of the family's controlling interest in the Standard Oil Company of New Jersey (now called ``Exxon'') to the account of the Foundation.
The Foundation's money created the medical specialty known as Psychiatric Genetics. For the new experimental field, the Foundation reorganized medical teaching in Germany, creating and thenceforth continuously directing the ``Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Psychiatry'' and the ``Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Eugenics and Human Heredity.'' The Rockefellers' chief executive of these institutions was the fascist Swiss psychiatrist Ernst Rudin, assisted by his proteges Otmar Verschuer and Franz J. Kallmann.
In 1932, the British-led ``Eugenics'' movement designated the Rockefellers' Dr. Rudin as the president of the worldwide Eugenics Federation. The movement called for the killing or sterilization of people whose heredity made them a public burden.
- The Racial Laws -
A few months later, Hitler took over Germany and the Rockefeller-Rudin apparatus became a section of the Nazi state. The regime appointed Rudin head of the Racial Hygiene Society. Rudin and his staff, as part of the Task Force of Heredity Experts chaired by SS chief Heinrich Himmler, drew up the sterilization law. Described as an American Model law, it was adopted in July 1933 and proudly printed in the September 1933 Eugenical News (USA) with Hitler's signature. The Rockefeller group drew up other race laws, also based on existing Virginia statutes. Otmar Verschuer and his assistant Josef Mengele together wrote reports for special courts which enforced Rudin's racial purity law against cohabitation of Aryans and non-Aryans.
The ``T4'' unit of the Hitler Chancery, based on psychiatrists led by Rudin and his staff, cooperated in creating propaganda films to sell mercy killing (euthanasia) to German citizens. The public reacted antagonistically: Hitler had to withdraw a tear-jerker right-to-die film from the movie theaters. The proper groundwork had not yet been laid.
Under the Nazis, the German chemical company I.G. Farben and Rockefeller's Standard Oil of New Jersey were effectively a single firm, merged in hundreds of cartel arrangements. I.G. Farben was led, up until 1937, by the Warburg family, Rockefeller's partner in banking and in the design of Nazi German eugenics. Following the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Standard Oil pledged to keep the merger with I.G. Farben going even if the U.S. entered the war. This was exposed in 1942 by Sen. Harry Truman's investigating committee, and President Roosevelt took hundreds of legal measures during the war to stop the Standard-I.G. Farben cartel from supplying the enemy war machine.
In 1940-41, I.G. Farben built a gigantic factory at Auschwitz in Poland, to utilize the Standard Oil/I.G. Farben patents with concentration camp slave labor to make gasoline from coal. The SS was assigned to guard the Jewish and other inmates and select for killing those who were unfit for I.G. Farben slave labor. Standard-Germany president Emil Helfferich testified after the war that Standard Oil funds helped pay for SS guards at Auschwitz.
In 1940, six months after the notorious Standard-I.G. meeting, European Rockefeller Foundation official Daniel O'Brian wrote to the Foundation's chief medical officer Alan Gregg that ``it would be unfortunate if it was chosen to stop research which has no relation to war issues''--so the Foundation continued financing Nazi ``psychiatric research'' during the war.
In 1936, Rockefeller's Dr. Franz Kallmann interrupted his study of hereditary degeneracy and emigrated to America because he was half-Jewish. Kallmann went to New York and established the Medical Genetics Department of the New York State Psychiatric Institute. The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry published Kallman's study of over 1,000 cases of schizophrenia, which tried to prove its hereditary basis. In the book, Kallmann thanked his long-time boss and mentor Rudin. Kallmann's book, published in 1938 in the USA and Nazi Germany, was used by the T4 unit as a rationalization to begin in 1939 the murder of mental patients and various ``defective'' people, perhaps most of them children. Gas and lethal injections were used to kill 250,000 under this program, in which the staffs for a broader murder program were desensitized and trained.
- Dr. Mengele... -
In 1943, Otmar Verschuer's assistant Josef Mengele was made medical commandant of Auschwitz. As wartime director of Rockefeller's Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Eugenics and Human Heredity in Berlin, Verschuer secured funds for Mengele's experiments at Auschwitz from the German Research Council. Verschuer wrote a progress report to the Council: ``My co-researcher in this research is my assistant the anthropologist and physician Mengele. He is serving as Hauptstuermfuehrer and camp doctor in the concentration camp Auschwitz.... With the permission of the Reichsfuehrer SS Himmler, anthropological research is being undertaken on the various racial groups in the concentration camps and blood samples will be sent to my laboratory for investigation.''
Mengele prowled the railroad lines leading into Auschwitz, looking for twins--a favorite subject of psychiatric geneticists. On arrival at Mengele's experimental station, twins filled out ``a detailed questionnaire from the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.'' There were daily drawings of blood for Verschuer's ``specific protein'' research. Needles were injected into eyes for work on eye color. There were experimental blood transfusions and infections. Organs and limbs were removed, sometimes without anesthetics. Sex changes were attempted. Females were sterilized, males were castrated. Thousands were murdered and their organs, eyeballs, heads, and limbs were sent to Verschuer and the Rockefeller group at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute.
In 1946, Verschuer wrote to the Bureau of Human Heredity in London, asking for help in continuing his ``scientific research.''
- Facelift -
In 1947, the Bureau of Human Heredity moved from London to Copenhagen. The new Danish building for this was built with Rockefeller money. The first International Congress in Human Genetics following World War II was held at this Danish institute in 1956. By that time, Verschuer was a member of the American Eugenics Society, then indistinguishable from Rockefeller's Population Council.
Dr. Kallmann helped save Verschuer by testifying in his denazification proceedings. Dr. Kallmann created the American Society of Human Genetics, which organized the ``Human Genome Project''--a current $3 billion physical multiculturalism effort. Kallmann was a director of the American Eugenics Society in 1952 and from 1954 to 1965.
In the 1950s, the Rockefellers reorganized the U.S. eugenics movement in their own family offices, with spinoff population-control and abortion groups. The Eugenics Society changed its name to the Society for the Study of Social Biology, its current name.
The Rockefeller Foundation had long financed the eugenics movement in England, apparently repaying Britain for the fact that British capital and an Englishman-partner had started old John D. Rockefeller out in his Oil Trust. In the 1960s, the Eugenics Society of England adopted what they called Crypto-eugenics, stating in their official reports that they would do eugenics through means and instruments not labeled as eugenics.
With support from the Rockefellers, the Eugenics Society (England) set up a sub-committee called the International Planned Parenthood Federation, which for 12 years had no other address than the Eugenics Society. This, then, is the private, international apparatus which has set the world up for a global holocaust, under the UN flag.
[For more information about the Planned Parenthood and Rockefeller connection to AIDS and disinformation campaigns, read the book "Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola--Nature, Accident or Intentional?" by Dr. Leonard Horowitz (Tetrahedron, LLC Press, 1996).
This was sent to me in an email. Interesting.
THE SECRET COVENANT
An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.
Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.
We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.
We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.
Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves.
This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.
We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.
We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy.
Death will come to he who speaks.
We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.
We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.
We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.
They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.
The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds.
We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.
The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.
From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.
The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.
We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.
We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.
Those they look up to will help.
We will enlist them to push our poisons.
They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.
When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.
We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.
When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.
When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.
We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.
They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.
We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self.
We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.
Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say.
If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives.
We will use fear as our weapon.
We will establish their governments and establish opposites within.
We will own both sides.
We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.
They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.
Our families will never mix with theirs.
Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.
We will make them kill each other when it suits us.
We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.
We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.
We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.
We will foment animosity between them through our factions.
When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.
We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.
We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.
The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers.
They will be busy killing each other.
They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.
We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.
We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.
We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.
We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.
We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.
The tools will be provided by their labor.
We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.
We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.
This they must never know!
They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.
Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.
We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.
We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.
We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.
When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.
We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.
When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.
They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.
We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.
The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.
Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth.
They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.
For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.
They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.
This they will never know.
The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.
Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.
When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them.
This reality will be their prison.
They will live in self-delusion.
When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.
Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.
But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then.
THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.
If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.
They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen.
Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.
This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.
This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood.
We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.
This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist.
It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.
Author: Unknown
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awestruck
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Posted - 05/28/2007 : 23:33:37
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Albert Einstein:
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
i will say this: I want protection from my government, but i also want to know if I am being deceived by the government. The system does not work, I do not agree with the war and I get tired of people getting help that refuse to help themselves.
Albert Einstein:
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
Humans have the brains to not be stupid. Ignorance is not always bliss.
And what good is our constitution and the Declaration of Independence, the very thing that men and women have died to protect, if everyone, even the government does not uphold the constitution and the very things it represents. IMO if someone unknowingly goes along with something they believe to be true, they are not the ones doing wrong. Likewise, if someone knowing goes along with something they know to be untrue when they do not have to...then that person might as well tear up the constitution and throw it in the garbage...b/c that is what it is to them: just paper. I am not saying for everyone to stop paying taxes, i am merely saying that a person should never just accept what is being told to them without exploring all the possibilities first. which is what i plan on doing. The government is not going to be fixed overnight and it sure took more than one night for the government to create the problem, but it is going to take the citizens of America to unite in order to have a government that supports us and not what is in governments interest.
and I think that would be a great poster.
and every American should read this: http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm
it truly is a written work of art-
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." -Declaration of Independence
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 00:44:22
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Wow Awestruck! I'm awestruck. Good post.
I'm a bill of rights fan - http://www.myspace.com/46107104
My basic point with this thread is that there is a huge deception going on and it is being orchestrated by the world's elite. While we are busy infighting amongst ourselves over left and right ideologies our liberties are slowly being chipped away ati n the sake of safety. The sovereignty of this country is about to be flushed down the toilet as the North American Union is ushered in. Problem is, most of America is too busy watching American Idol to notice. |
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 05:19:30
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Oh, Erebus, where are you?
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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awestruck
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 05:26:40
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I thought this quote fit well in this thread.
David Friedman:
The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations.
Albert Einstein was a brilliant man.
Albert Einstein:
The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 10:15:46
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Originally posted by awestruck
I thought this quote fit well in this thread.
David Friedman:
The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations.
Albert Einstein was a brilliant man.
Albert Einstein:
The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.
Favorite Quote: awestruck is a she, she's a she. -trobrianders
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darwin
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 10:19:57
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
All it takes for evil men to succeed is for good men to do nothing.
Therefore, do we need a military funded by federal taxes? |
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 11:27:31
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What does France, Germany, Italy, Australia, etc., etc.,etc. have that's keeping them so safe? How come all of these counties have a form of universal health care? Germany I know, pays for their citizens college educations. Why can they do that but the supposed greatest country on earth cannot? Because our leaders, the military industrial/energy complex as well as the central banks keep creating new enemies for us to be afraid of.
Come on Darwin, you're a smart guy do some research. Don't allow yourself to be so easily manipulated by the mainstream media. haven't you see V for vendetta? It's almost that bad. If you keep supporting this nonsense it will be that bad. They have some evil things planned for us my man.
If your desire is to dominate the world than "yes" we need a lot more money than we have. Big central banks want war because they are the ones that fund it.
Is world domination your desire?
Watch that movie I linked about "peak oil" and learn part of what is really going on.
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darwin
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 11:36:50
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
What does France, Germany, Italy, Australia, etc., etc.,etc. have that's keeping them so safe? How come all of these counties have a form of universal health care? Germany I know, pays for their citizens college educations. Why can they do that but the supposed greatest country on earth cannot? Because our leaders, the military industrial/energy complex as well as the central banks keep creating new enemies for us to be afraid of.
Nothing I said was against universal health care. In fact, without income taxes (which Paul seems to want) I don't how you are going to fund health care.
What keeps France, Germany, Italy, Australia, etc. safe? Partially the answer is the US. I just think it's unrealistic to think that we don't need a federal government and you can't have a federal government without taxes. And as I quoted earlier the conservatives are trying to kill large government by underfunding it and mismanaging it. For the results see New Orleans. |
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Newo
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 11:44:16
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darwin Posted - 05/29/2007 : 11:36:50
What keeps France, Germany, Italy, Australia, etc. safe? Partially the answer is the US.
we have our own bullies in uniforms prowling the streets but thank you for offering.
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 12:28:14
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
What does France, Germany, Italy, Australia, etc., etc.,etc. have that's keeping them so safe? How come all of these counties have a form of universal health care? Germany I know, pays for their citizens college educations. Why can they do that but the supposed greatest country on earth cannot? Because our leaders, the military industrial/energy complex as well as the central banks keep creating new enemies for us to be afraid of.
Nothing I said was against universal health care. In fact, without income taxes (which Paul seems to want) I don't how you are going to fund health care.
What keeps France, Germany, Italy, Australia, etc. safe? Partially the answer is the US. I just think it's unrealistic to think that we don't need a federal government and you can't have a federal government without taxes. And as I quoted earlier the conservatives are trying to kill large government by underfunding it and mismanaging it. For the results see New Orleans.
This country was started by conservatives. I'm fairly certain they knew what they were doing. Please don't take that to mean I am a conservative under the current definition. I'm more of a moderate. Nascar Republicans scare the bejesus out of me.
Now as for "bureaucracy", it may all look good on paper but unfortunately, incompetence takes over in the field.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureaucracy |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 12:31:08
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But you keep skipping my point. Part of the reason for the Bush tax cuts (and Paul's as well I think) is to strangle the Federal government.
i.e. From one of Bush's former top advisors: "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub."
Do you think that's a good thing? |
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 12:33:41
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Here, seriously, watch some of those doc's. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358726890127819985&q=911+the+road+to+tyranny
A lot of people are working hard to get the word out. And are accomplishing that task. But, like I said there is a certain percentage that are going to believe what they want to believe.
The truth is still available on this (currently) unregulated medium you sit in front of. If you are not afraid to hear it. |
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 12:35:38
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| And exactly how has the Bush tax cuts strangled the federal government? Please don't use Katrina as an example again. That's called "gentrification". |
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darwin
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Posted - 05/29/2007 : 12:45:45
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Originally posted by The King Of Karaoke
And exactly how has the Bush tax cuts strangled the federal government? Please don't use Katrina as an example again. That's called "gentrification".
We're both wasting our time. |
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