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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
 Posted - 03/11/2007 : 15:45:37
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Did anybody ever call him Black Francis anyway?
In the old days I remember people saying "the pixies singer".
That's the good thing of "Black Francis": as it is impossible to actually call somebody that way, EVERYBODY will be aware that Bluefing is the new album from "the pixies singer".
Gosh... that's a chess move ! |
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endofmiles
- FB Fan -
Switzerland
69 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 16:27:08
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Yep, that's a good move indeed. I think he thought about being Frank Black for so long. To be Black Francis again on tour with the Pixies, then FMRM and Christmas. Maybe he wanted to include his recent work with the Pixies tour(next album?), and so he had to be Black Francis again. Could be wrong..just a thought passing my mind..¨¨
"le chanteur des Pixies" |
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 16:42:55
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It would be hard for me to call him Black Francis, but it is probably b/c i discovered him as Frank Black. Was he called Black Francis only when with the Pixies?
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 17:35:39
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He was born Charles Thompson, which you'll see him called by those who know him on a personal level. When the Pixies formed, he made Black Francis his stage name. When he put out his first solo album, he changed his stage name to Frank Black. When "Christmass" came out, writing credits on some of the new songs went to Black Francis. And now it seems he's completely changed his name back to Black Francis. When he seemingly announced "Bluefinger" on this forum, he said it was a Black Francis album. He even changed his forum username to reflect the change, though he's since deleted almost all of the posts that he did under the new name.
So now you're up to the minute on the name. Form your own opinion about all the changes. I'm anti.
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 17:46:25
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| I think I am anti. This is confusing for new fans like myself. I get used to FB and he goes and changes BACK to BF. O well you know what they say about opinions. you know Prince did this. I hope FB doesn't go to a symbol. FB please don't go to a symbol. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 18:25:58
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If you're going to be a symbol, you might try the one that won Smiley Survivor:
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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yingguoguizi
- FB Fan -
China
62 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 18:39:30
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| It doesn't really matter what he's called. Lets just hope the next album is good un. Also, I don't see how it can be that confusing for a new fan. |
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 18:42:37
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i was exaggerating.
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yingguoguizi
- FB Fan -
China
62 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 18:47:59
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 19:06:46
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quite ok. just don't let it happen again.
no really it is ok. or is it? |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 23:07:17
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I just wonder if this Black Francis move, and the songs that he's been releasing lately are kind of "negotiating tactics" for trying to get the rest of the Pixies on board with doing a new album. It'd kind of like, "see - I can still do stuff other then the alt-country direction I was in for a while".
It's like doing demos that the band is unwilling to do.
Interesting that there isn't a more fleshed-out version of "Dead Man's Curve" or that ChristMASS didn't have any of the full band performances of that song. It's almost like he's saving it for the Pixies. It's certainly the most Pixie-ish of the new stuff, IMO.
But if the rest of the Grand Duchy stuff is as good as Fort Wayne, I'm not sure we'll care if we hear another Pixies album!
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 06:05:54
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Originally posted by endofmiles
To be Black Francis again on tour with the Pixies, then FMRM and Christmas.
"le chanteur des Pixies"
Attends une minute... il etait Black Francis sur FMRM ?
(come on others, everybody can get this)
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billy shabore
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 03/12/2007 : 07:13:28
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I think that I prefer the all-inclusive "Frank Black Francis." (The man used this as his autograph at last year's accoustic tour.)
...although the three part name thing is usually reserved for assassins.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 07:23:15
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Originally posted by billy shabore
I think that I prefer the all-inclusive "Frank Black Francis." (The man used this as his autograph at last year's accoustic tour.)
...although the three part name thing is usually reserved for assassins.
Assassins ? Even better. I was just watching for the first time the pixies sell out reunion dvd and thinking he's kinda frightening on stage, especially in the Nimrod's Son sinister laught. |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 15:13:50
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| I wonder if BF is under the same label's contract as FB is? Can you simply change names and be independant of your other persona's contract? |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 15:15:16
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I'd be willing to bet 10 cents that any contracts are signed "Charles Thompson."
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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endofmiles
- FB Fan -
Switzerland
69 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 16:12:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque
[quote]Originally posted by endofmiles
To be Black Francis again on tour with the Pixies, then FMRM and Christmas.
"le chanteur des Pixies"
Attends une minute... il etait Black Francis sur FMRM ?
Oh man, I was mistaken. Bad sintax
Again, I was thinking that with the name Black Francis he can include his new work with the Pixies. But for me "Frank Black Francis" sounds kind of cool..
Et dire que j'allais vérifier sur le CD de FMRM!!!
Merci Grotesque pour me l'avoir fait remarquer...
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 16:28:19
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| If I stick around here, I may just learn french! |
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awestruck
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 16:31:28
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| well hello kfs! have a good day? sending you an email. |
Edited by - awestruck on 03/12/2007 16:38:28 |
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 17:07:23
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| I definately prefer Frank Black over Black Francis. But that's because I'm "late". If "Black Francis" is what it takes for the rest of the pixies to feel that a new album would be disconnected from his (marvelous) solo works, well, then that's a small price to pay |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 17:08:47
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was the black in black francis considered a first name? or was it more like an adjective to describe his persona?
FAST_MAN RAIDER_MAN - June 19th |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 18:57:25
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| Yes, Black was considered this first name. I called him Black Francis until he went solo and I remember it taking a little bit of practice to call him Frank Black. |
Edited by - Daisy Girl on 03/12/2007 18:58:07 |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 00:28:36
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I always thought it was an adjective, and his name was Francis. But I always thought it was probably a fake name ;)
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 05:47:45
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Come to think of it, "frank" is an adjective, too. And sort of appropriate, I guess.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:04:18
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it's also a verb
jamming good with Weird and Gilly |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:08:18
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Yeah, as in go frank yourself.
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For Chrissakes have a cup of tea. |
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billy shabore
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Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:10:33
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I remember that Dennis Miller called him "Black."
Ha...then referred to himself as "embarrassingly white Dennis"
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:12:56
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| Seems like I remember something about Bowie calling him Fraancis |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:43:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Jefrey
I always thought it was an adjective, and his name was Francis. But I always thought it was probably a fake name ;)
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I heard that Black Francis was for the dark Francis Bacon, whos paintings could have easily illustrated the first pixies albums.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:52:39
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Originally posted by Grotesque
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Originally posted by Jefrey
I always thought it was an adjective, and his name was Francis. But I always thought it was probably a fake name ;)
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I heard that Black Francis was for the dark Francis Bacon, whos paintings could have easily illustrated the first pixies albums.
Paintings by Francis Bacon? You sure about that one. He was an English philosopher. |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 07:53:50
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Originally posted by floop
it's also a verb
jamming good with Weird and Gilly
Right, as in the president has lifetime franking privileges and therefore doesn't have to pay postage ever again.
Or, as in Violet has Franking priveleges, which is why they've had two babies in the last several years.
Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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mixedbizz
- FB Fan -
USA
176 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 08:08:24
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by Grotesque
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Originally posted by Jefrey
I always thought it was an adjective, and his name was Francis. But I always thought it was probably a fake name ;)
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I heard that Black Francis was for the dark Francis Bacon, whos paintings could have easily illustrated the first pixies albums.
Paintings by Francis Bacon? You sure about that one. He was an English philosopher.
I think he means the other Francis Bacon, the 1950's era British painter. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 08:12:53
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Originally posted by mixedbizz
I think he means the other Francis Bacon, the 1950's era British painter.
Really, is he the OTHER Francis Bacon ? I mean, a lot of people say he's the most important painter of the 20th century! But perhaps every english speacking kid study that philosopher guy at school ? |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2007 : 08:19:05
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Ahhh, there's two. Thanks for telling me.
wikipedia says he was a descendant of a brother or sister of the original Francis Bacon. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2007 : 05:29:12
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I always thought of him as Charles. So all this is academic for me. It's befitting his music to think of him as just Charles I think. Black Francis, Frank Black or even Chuck T don't sound cooler than plain old Charles.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2007 : 11:00:23
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Mmm... In French at least it sounds REALLY uncool. Because it's also a French name with the same spelling but a different prononciation ("sharlu", it's very french sounding). And the one who would prononce it with american or english accent would sound very very presomptuous.
By the way, an amusing anecdote: I was in a radio studio for a Frank Black show, and he noticed they had spelled his name "Franck" like in french. He said he was going to change it on the records, "Franck with a C", and everybody went into a big "NOOOOOO". "Aw... allright, allright. I keep Frank without a c" |
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Will the fan call him Black Francis again ?
