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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  15:11:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've always liked "Los Angeles," but it's so different from everything else the man has ever done that I almost feel like it doesn't belong in the catalog. I often feel that way about my favorite artists' "signature" songs, the ones that non-fans know and like but that just aren't characteristic of an artist's body of work. (Another song like that is "Laid" by James.) Does anything else in FB's catalog stick out like a sore thumb to anyone?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.

benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  15:50:25  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i feel like that about monkey gone to heaven.
excpet that here comes your man is of similar ilk.
but together, i feel they just don't sit right with other pixies songs, and subsequently, i find they are my least favourite pixies tunes.



all i can say, thank god for polio! brian
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2007 :  16:01:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure, FB's diversity with his music makes it difficult for me to think of any of his songs as 'un-Frank Black'.


"The arc of triumph"
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2007 :  19:52:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i've never considered los angeles as very different to anything else he's done.

dark end of the street maybe?







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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
3111 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2007 :  20:46:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mmm, that's a cover, so I'm not sure it counts, though it surely doesn't fit much else he's done, other than the song that precedes it on "Honeycomb." They're the perfect pair.

I'm not entirely sure what it is about "Los Angeles" that seems weird. Maybe the structure of it? The intro isn't like much else by him, nor is the end. It's altogether possible that my issue is that lots of people know it and like it, and that's why I've put it in a different category. It's so easily likeable. It's not ... I don't know, weird?


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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2007 :  23:25:54  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Don't Get Me Wrong. It doesn't sound to me like anything he's done before.


Denis

"Can you hear me? I aint got shit to say."
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2007 :  02:13:23  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Radio Lizards...I guess.
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2007 :  04:36:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
never cared much for predictable (drivers and other traffic participants aside)
so anything un-anything has better chance of piquing my interest (sore thumbs aside)

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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2007 :  05:43:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

Mmm, that's a cover, so I'm not sure it counts


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



i thought this but still, he chose to cover it, and he chose to cover it in that way. hang on to your ego and head on don't stick out like that does...



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Edited by - PixieSteve on 03/02/2007 05:43:23
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2007 :  09:25:27  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Point, Steve. Good point!

Do you think with L.A it might be because it doesn't have a chorus (does it?), C? It could be some kind of subconcious thing in your head going "Chorus! Where's the bleedin' chorus?! Must be a chorus"

For me, at the time(ish), it was Shazeb Andleeb.

Edited by - fbc on 03/02/2007 09:25:45
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1729 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2007 :  10:17:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Announcement. I can't even tell it's Frank singing.


"Am I the one you're thinking of
when the sun goes down into the water...?"
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2007 :  12:43:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by coastline

I've always liked "Los Angeles," but it's so different from everything else the man has ever done that I almost feel like it doesn't belong in the catalog. I often feel that way about my favorite artists' "signature" songs, the ones that non-fans know and like but that just aren't characteristic of an artist's body of work. (Another song like that is "Laid" by James.) Does anything else in FB's catalog stick out like a sore thumb to anyone?


Please pardon me, for these my wrongs.



Why ? To me it "L.A." sounds like other Frank Black songs: "dog gone" "I heard Ramona sing", "So Bay" and "The sad punk".
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2007 :  14:36:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Los Angeles - greatest riff ever. Full of swerve and tension, even played acoustically like from the Sacremento gig off the Christmass DVD - God I wish he hadn't fouled up the ending.

Sure it sounds like him. It's him and it sounds like him. When it's not him that's when he's, very deliberately, adopting another's vocal style, like Neil Young on So. Bay or Chris Rea on Calistan. But it's always him. Mind you Radio Lizards...and Don't Get Me Wrong could be anybody.

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endofmiles
- FB Fan -

Switzerland
69 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2007 :  14:37:53  Show Profile  Click to see endofmiles's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu

I'm not sure, FB's diversity with his music makes it difficult for me to think of any of his songs as 'un-Frank Black'.


"The arc of triumph"



I agree with that. But if I had to choose i'll say "Fiddle Riddle"
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2007 :  14:57:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by endofmiles

quote:
Originally posted by pixiestu

I'm not sure, FB's diversity with his music makes it difficult for me to think of any of his songs as 'un-Frank Black'.


"The arc of triumph"



I agree with that. But if I had to choose i'll say "Fiddle Riddle"



Fiddle Riddle makes me think to "The navaro knows". That would have been a good turn for the pixies to go "strange reggae pop" instead of staying guitar oriented, if they hadnt broke up. In facts, I've read an interview of Gil Norton at that time that said the next album was going to be much more like The Navaro Knows, and I thought "great, cos anyway they couldnt make better punk songs than on Trompe le Monde")
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2007 :  21:01:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean Navajo, of course. :)
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endofmiles
- FB Fan -

Switzerland
69 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2007 :  04:06:36  Show Profile  Click to see endofmiles's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Or perhaps you mean Navarro, the french inspector.. :-)
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2007 :  13:33:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by endofmiles

Or perhaps you mean Navarro, the french inspector.. :-)



Yeah Inspector Gadget.
I'll put it on the cover suggestions.
With EDF on keyboards and on his pal Tepper on guitar.

And I already see the next post: was gadget french? Yes he was. Not so sure about that crappy little thurd gadget boy.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2007 :  17:34:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fuck me, I was just thinking about that Gadget Boy character (I couldn't remember his name) earlier today, I loved Inspector Gadget as a kid, but obviouly it's not something you'd think about every day, and that you specifically mention Gadget Boy...maybe there's some kind of psychic energy generated by this forum! ;)
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duplicatedman
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15 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2007 :  10:34:09  Show Profile  Visit duplicatedman's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For me its Strange Goodbye off Honeycomb.

Very un-Frank like imo.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2007 :  10:53:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

Fuck me, I was just thinking about that Gadget Boy character (I couldn't remember his name) earlier today, I loved Inspector Gadget as a kid, but obviouly it's not something you'd think about every day, and that you specifically mention Gadget Boy...maybe there's some kind of psychic energy generated by this forum! ;)



Psychic cartoon energy? Let's see. What if I say Doctor Smuggle ?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2007 :  12:04:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You mean Doctor Snuggles?
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2007 :  16:39:13  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
def. Radio Lizards - one of the best FB songs for a while, along with (Do What You Want) Gyaneshwar


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I joined the Cult of the Catholics, Oh when will they return ?
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 03/07/2007 :  18:38:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wait a minute. Isn't everything new sounding un-Frank Black? It's a function of age. We were born the same year and when you hit 42 you just don't recognise yourself anymore.

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mikaelp75
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131 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2007 :  02:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Farewell Bend surprised me in a good way. Melodically that kind of elated blues was more of a departure than something like Radio Lizards I thought. Lyrics notwithstanding, Dark End Of The Street isn't a million miles away from Stupid Me, is it?
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2007 :  08:25:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be interesting to know if FB did Sad Old World and The Real El Rey just after learning Dark End Of The Street. Cos these two songs sound like a "Blackisation" of Dark end.
Like: "Mmm, I see... And if it was a bit more my way?"
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OLDMANOTY
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
469 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2007 :  12:39:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Two Spaces' is quite un-Frank musically, particularly the verses. Must be one of the poppiest things he's done.
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wwgt
- FB Fan -

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2007 :  13:50:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I remember correct , someone asked Frank in an interview
what a " frankblack\charlesthompson\pixies " song should sound like
and his answer was " It just has to sound cool"
So , in my mind , all borders and boundry were eliminated in that one
statement !


Space is gonna do me good
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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2007 :  15:33:41  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

Do you think with L.A it might be because it doesn't have a chorus (does it?), C? It could be some kind of subconcious thing in your head going "Chorus! Where's the bleedin' chorus?! Must be a chorus"

For me, at the time(ish), it was Shazeb Andleeb.



I'm not too sure about the lack of chorus thing since there's quite a few FB songs with no chorus whatsoever (particularly in the last five or six years), as well as songs with multiple choruses. I always thought LA fit in pretty well. Now, I Don't Want To Hurt You (Every Single Time) -- not only does that one not fit in to me, that's got to be some kind of low point IMHO. Totally cookie cutter and vanilla and hence, very un-Frank.

When I first heard it, My Favorite Kiss was a total shock, sounded nothing like anything he'd done prior. Now after honeycomb and Raiderman, it fits in great. I always did like it. The production on it is so different from the others on the album... For some reason it always reminded me of a TV commercial song or a theme song for a TV show. Great song though.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1220 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2007 :  19:46:29  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I Don't Want To Hurt You, unBlack-ish in its lameness.

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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2792 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2007 :  20:44:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by Doog

I Don't Want To Hurt You, unBlack-ish in its lameness.

NOOOOOO!
come on man the song is great
i'm not a big elvis fan but after reading frank's take on it i dig both even more.

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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2007 :  05:31:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doog

I Don't Want To Hurt You, unBlack-ish in its lameness.


Once I get over my prejudice I sort of have to agree.

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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/24/2007 :  18:36:17  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's a very straightforward/boring song from a guy who has blown my mind on occassions. No shame in that, they can't all be mindblowers.

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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  07:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doog

It's a very straightforward/boring song from a guy who has blown my mind on occassions. No shame in that, they can't all be mindblowers.




Boring... that's the exact word.
I'm not alone ! Join the cult of "Let's kick I dont want to hurt you off the best off!".
If they absolutely want it, they could put an alternate version or a remix without that FM guitar effect (no, FM is not for "Fast Man" here...).
The raw one from the valentine's podcast was a very decent song.
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =

USA
889 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  08:46:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I never understood why everyone dislikes that song. I think it's nice. I like it.
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  08:52:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's one of my favourites.


"The arc of triumph"
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