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cary7
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 Posted - 02/10/2007 : 11:58:11
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Let me get the obligatory out of the way. I love FB. He is one of the greatest American singer-songwriters ever. His imprint can be heard on every indie record to come out since the early 90's. All of this is true and my desert island wishlist would definitely include most of his catalog.
I agree with everyone that the new tracks on the Christmass CD are great. Having said that, the live performances (including DVD) are pretty much a waste. I don't regret paying the 30+ bucks for it because I feel like he deserves the support and money. But I wish Frank would have just said something like, "Sorry guys, but I'm gonna start charging a Frank Black annual tax of about 32 bucks because we all know what I've done for you. Prompt payment will get you this throwaway CD/DVD thingy that I knocked out while hanging out on my patio." Seriously, we all have dozens of bootlegs that are a thousand times better than this material. It could have been sooooo much better and we all know it. It just doesn't seem like he put all that much work into it. This is the first time I've been disappointed with an official FB release. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:53:15
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| He doesnt need to charge a tax, he s got the pixies money, and he certainly made Christmass "for your pleasure" like Brian Ferry would say. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 15:21:32
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Originally posted by cary7
This is the first time I've been disappointed with an official FB release.
did you buy Honeycomb? |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2436 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 16:38:13
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For the price, I love the CD-DVD package. I dare say, I'd probably have paid that just for an EP of the new songs. It's a nice release, aimed at the fans, and I'm delighted that Charles is just releasing records just for the sake of it. And of course, it's hardly as if he's doing as many other artists do, and re-release existing records with just a couple of extra tracks!
In a year when we've already had an album {and a double one, at that}, I'm overjoyed.
It would've been great to get an entire show, but hey, as long as The Man keeps touring, I'd settle for seeing him, up close, in concert. |
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 20:07:20
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Get the fuck off my internets.
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Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted... |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 20:32:41
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Originally posted by spunXtain
Get the fuck off my internets.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 02/10/2007 : 21:12:14
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Not sure what I'd think of Xmass if I'd paid $32 for it, but I got it for $13 and I'm pleased.
 "Join the Cult of Juiceman and braid your eyebrows" |
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Brank_Flack
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
921 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 09:27:57
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| I liked the live tracks and didnt feel cheated out of my money |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/11/2007 : 20:45:04
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Originally posted by cary7
It could have been sooooo much better and we all know it.
Speak for yourself, new guy. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 02/12/2007 : 18:21:48
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For Pete's sake, it was advertised as a mail-order only release of solo live tracks and demos recorded in a hotel room. It's not like they tried to trick you. I don't think it could have been any more explicitly described as nothing more than a treat for uber fans to hold us over until the next "official" release.
Do a little research before whining. It's not even that hard - the first post on the thread called "ChRISTMASS the Album" explains everything.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/07/2007 : 13:12:35
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One pitiful post and then he was gone. Worth the mon for Two Reelers alone. Has anyone even watched the DVD? It's great. Only wish there was more.
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laporto
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 00:42:52
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Yes, the DVD is worth the money alone. I look at it this way. I wanted the album early, so I paid extra.
It does piss me of when artists add bonus tracks or bonus dvd's to later issues of a record. Beck has done this to me twice, so I stopped paying for his records and download them instead. |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 08:47:32
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get that Frank Black tax idea in the garbage !!
Oops I just made it newer... |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 09:14:49
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Let's talk about the DVD instead.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2007 : 09:18:33
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| That Christmass CD has lived in my car stereo for the last 6 months and helped convert my wife and kids (the use of the word bursting has skyrocketed in the household) to the power of Frank, so $30 doesn't seem like too much. |
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =
USA
260 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2007 : 11:02:00
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| I made a playlist of just the new songs on Christmass (plus the live Massif Central... any chance to hear that I take) and it plays like an amazing FB EP, so I dont really care what else is on it, I'm loving the new songs as much as anything in recent Frank-dom, and that includes Bluefinger! I wonder what FB 'phase' historians will place these songs in? Post-Nashville, pre-Black Francis revival (even though the songs are written by Black Francis, they are mellower in a Havalina way). |
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =
France
777 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 08:20:35
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I FINALLY bought Christmass today, and having read so many critics about the live tracks I was surprised how GREAT they sound. The aggressive accoustic guitar and the reverb on the voice make it sound quite garage rock, though there's no band. I think it's better than any acoustic bootleg I ever heard. It sounds very sixties.
Living on soul is much better than with a rock band. You cant really hear those chords on the rock version, you think they're conventional major chords. And that counts for a lot of FB songs, especially on The cult of Ray, you need to hear clearly FB's guitar to get the originality of the songs.
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2007 : 08:35:01
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Good points, as always, Grotesque. The solo acoustic tour opened up a lot of his songs for me, especially "Living On Soul" and "Two Reelers."
 Please pardon me, for these my wrongs. |
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 07/13/2007 : 14:22:05
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Originally posted by Grotesque
You cant really hear those chords on the rock version, you think they're conventional major chords. And that counts for a lot of FB songs, especially on The cult of Ray, you need to hear clearly FB's guitar to get the originality of the song.
I'm with you Grotesque. At least half of the FB I listen to is FB solo for this reason. I remember an interview with Kristin Hersh where she was saying that of all the fine musicians that she worked with, it was only her drummer David Narcizo who really 'got' what she was about, musically.
I love the Catholics but they were serving Rock more than they were serving Charles' muse. I think that's why this current period, where he's truly going solo, is proving to be so cathartic for him. His current band members I think recognise this and are playing accordingly. It's the best thing he could have done. I feel really good for him.
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kotvana
- FB Fan -
Israel
99 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2007 : 10:05:18
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TO BE HONEST WITH YOU
RIGHT NOW
CHRISTMASS IS MY FAVORITE ALBUM
THE LIVE TRACKS ARE SO EXCITING
YOU MUST BE IN TEARS WHEN U JEAR
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