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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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 Posted - 07/30/2006 : 21:45:35
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i'm sure all you guitar gods will laugh, but this one is a pain in my ass
been trying to learn Bowie's "Changes" but this one is killing me.
there are others. what chords do you have a hard time playing?
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2006 : 21:57:08
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| E7b9 from The Beatles' "I Want You": 022131 |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2006 : 22:09:09
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Ebm7? What's before and after?
Often you wonder about the transcribers.
I don't have guitar in hand, but that E7b9, if you bar it, except the E string...What's before and after that?
I find, after a string of nasty chords, just something basic screws me around, the one I should hit is the one I mess up. |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 01:26:46
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Basically, every chord that has some "x" (ie mute strings) in it are a pain in the ass for me. Simply because I can't play the guitar.
Denis
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 04:14:24
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bit of a stretch but worth it:
---3----2-----------0--
---4----4-----------5--
---5----5-----------4--
---5----5-----------7--
---3----2-----------7--
--(3)--(2)----------5--
havalina chords ? |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 08:23:18
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| Lots of Beatles songs have strange chord shapes. I've often wondered where those influences come from. George Martin? Old country or Jazz? The songs sound so simple, but there's always a curveball in there. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 08:56:37
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quote:
Originally posted by ScottP
Lots of Beatles songs have strange chord shapes. I've often wondered where those influences come from. George Martin? Old country or Jazz? The songs sound so simple, but there's always a curveball in there.
I don't know the answer to your question, but I'll say this: I have learned more interesting chords playing Beatles songs than any other band by far. |
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =
Chile
652 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 14:56:24
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quote:
Originally posted by fbc
bit of a stretch but worth it:
0--
5--
4--
7--
7--
5--
havalina chords ?
Dude that's unplayable!! |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 15:19:24
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no way! you can do it.
0--
5--middle finger
4--index finger
7--little finger
7--kiss my ring finger
5--thumb
or you could just play, a little easier =P
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 15:49:51
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quote:
Originally posted by BLT
quote:
Originally posted by ScottP
Lots of Beatles songs have strange chord shapes. I've often wondered where those influences come from. George Martin? Old country or Jazz? The songs sound so simple, but there's always a curveball in there.
I don't know the answer to your question, but I'll say this: I have learned more interesting chords playing Beatles songs than any other band by far.
A while back I bought "The Complete Beatles", a 2-book song fest of nearly every Beatles song ever written- You guys know the one I'm talking about. Thinking I was gonna be in Lennon/McCartney heaven, I hurried home to start work immediately. Fuck me. Every song I wanted to learn had some crazy assed chord shape that was key to playing the song right. So, I set the books aside for about 6 years. Then, just recently, I pulled em out and started messing with them again. Talk about a great way to practice/learn something new! Very satisfying as well when you get them right. A great workout. Anybody want to borrow this great songbook set, I'll mail it to ya. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 17:25:11
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The first 'Complete Beatles' book I owned was bloody annoying, since many of the songs had been transposed into different keys.
Bowie's 'Changes' is a very tricky song to play on guitar. I don't think that there is a single guitar part on the Hunky Dory version; even live, David would just strum the basic chords whilst the rest of the band did the rest. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 17:33:20
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quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy
Bowie's 'Changes' is a very tricky song to play on guitar. I don't think that there is a single guitar part on the Hunky Dory version; even live, David would just strum the basic chords whilst the rest of the band did the rest.
you ought to know eh?
"I don't have any money to buy new clothes and if they paid me to get some I'd probably buy more hoodies." - Mark Wainfur |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 17:33:55
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i got this for christmas years back.
tried a few songs and gave up. |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 07/31/2006 : 21:54:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy
The first 'Complete Beatles' book I owned was bloody annoying, since many of the songs had been transposed into different keys.
Jeez, I guess I should check and see if every one of the 200+ songs are in the right key before I make such an irresponsible offer. 
The funky chord shapes are the issue at hand, either way. And, these books are full of them.
p.s. I checked a few and they were in the right key.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2006 : 08:25:06
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I have this book.
I like it. It doesn't have any lead parts but the chords are as accurate I'll ever need and in the correct keys. The bad thing about the book is the format is too small and you sometimes have to weigh down one side to keep it open. |
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2006 : 12:08:15
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Most bar-chords.
My wrists don't twist as well and my hands are medium-small. Which doesn't make sense because I have a huge dick, of course.
One of my favorite chords, yet tricky to play.
(the root being on the 2nd string, a major 7th chord)
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2006 : 13:31:06
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Not that they're a bitch to play, but I'm discovering a bunch of new chords I love thanks to the FMRM tabs (thanks Derek!). I should probably be thanking Frank as well, but what has he done for me lately?
At the moment I'm really digging the D7/F#. Simple, but lovely.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 00:33:19
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Originally posted by speedy_m
At the moment I'm really digging the D7/F#. Simple, but lovely.
Ha! Same here. Looks like D7/F# is Frank's new C#m. By the way, how do you play the muted A string? I could never understand this. Do you put a finger on it or something?
Denis
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jtjcp88
- FB Fan -
105 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 05:17:23
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I might have to try and learn some Beatles tunes if you guys think there useful for crazy chords. However i've always found the chords that Hendrix used were the hardest i've ever come across.
"Dance at my party." |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 08:27:50
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2006 : 08:44:17
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quote:
Originally posted by vilainde
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m
At the moment I'm really digging the D7/F#. Simple, but lovely.
Ha! Same here. Looks like D7/F# is Frank's new C#m. By the way, how do you play the muted A string? I could never understand this. Do you put a finger on it or something?
Denis
I play the F# with my thumb, so the tip of my thumb mutes the A string. I'm no Yngwie Malmsteen, but that's how I do it. Naturally after discovering this chord I tried to incorporate it into every new song I fooled around with. I feel like such a rookie sometimes, like "ooh boy, D7/F#!" *writes 12 songs featuring this chord*.
he's back jack smoking crack find him if you want to get found
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2006 : 15:44:16
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BLT, you could try E7b9 like x7676x low to high. I think the Beatles have interesting chords partly because Lennon used to play banjo when he was young and initially tuned his guitar that way or tried for banjoish chords on a standardtuned guitar.
I wrote a song last week with this chord I quite like, 7x678x, perhaps a Bm6+5
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2006 : 16:06:37
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7x678x, I play that chord quite a bit as either a E7#9/B or Bb13b9. 7x6788 is a nice change-up.
B-Ab-D-G
B-Maj7, #9, #5
Bb-b9, 3rd, 6
E-5th, 3rd, dom 7th, #9 |
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2006 : 11:07:56
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Country Music: Banjos and mandolins could indeed be the culprit to The Beatles wierd assed chord mysteries.
I have heard that way back when these boys would have been taking lessons, country music was what everybody was being taught. All of the guitar heroes of that time were country players. I don't know, just a guess to a mystery I have long wondered about. |
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mr.biscuitdoughhead
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1729 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2006 : 11:19:16
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From HomestarRunner.com:
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2006 : 11:26:44
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| Polydactyl bastard. |
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 02:22:22
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Which would be most useful Tal Farlow's massive huge hands or an extra finger?
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ScottP
= Cult of Ray =
USA
618 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 08:43:26
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 09:05:03
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Originally posted by ScottP
Huge hands, because then you would also have that huge wanger to go with them.
... and then you can play THIS
Denis
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2006 : 10:55:14
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Join the Cult Of Pob! And don't forget to listen to the Pobcast! |
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 08/15/2006 : 08:24:56
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I've got big hands and still find fretting a diminshed shape on the A string quickly to be a pain in the ass.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 08/16/2006 : 01:23:58
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That chord where you play the 1st fret on the low E and the 22nd fret on the high E is a killer.
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jtjcp88
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 08/16/2006 : 05:06:33
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Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead
From HomestarRunner.com:
But how the hell are you supost to play it?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 14:51:51
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With extreme difficulty, I should imagine!
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mcil
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/17/2006 : 11:35:59
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quote:
Originally posted by mr.biscuitdoughhead
From HomestarRunner.com:
There are three hands in that picture(you can see the two hands plus a bonus thumb higher up the neck), I personally dont have three hands so I proably wouldn't be able to play that, also strumming would be quite a bugger
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