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orangemagic
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USA
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  12:14:39  Show Profile  Visit orangemagic's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think "Velvety" from Devil's Workshop is a perfect example of how The rest of the Pixies, particularly Joey, are largely responsible for making a song sound "Pixieish". I'm not sure which one, but on a recent podcast Dean and Brian played the instrumental Pixie version of "Velvety" and compared to the Devil's Workshop version, it has that unmistakeable Pixies sound.

I say this in agreement with those who suggested in a past thread that Frank should just write songs and worry about the rest of the band making them sound Pixieish. I think it's a mistake for Frank to try to write in a "Pixie" style.

I really hope that they reconsider, and decide to make a new Pixies album. I'm sure that in some respects it will be a tad disappointing because of high expectations, but I also think it could be magical.

Does anyone agree with any of this?

-greg

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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  12:30:46  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think if you listen to the Catholics version of Selkie Bride vs. the Nashville/Honeycomb one, you see the same thing. The people in the band lend their style to create the song.

I agree that if FB wrote music, so long as he wasn't writing an end product, it would come out sounding like the Pixies or at least what they are today. But FB has moved, Kim has somewhat as well, Joey has at least grown, and Dave I don't know about, but presumably as we get older our tastes change. Hard to say what they'd bring to it. But it would be four talented musicians working together, can't be too bad... it just might not have that old same sound. All the more reason to give it a new name.


"No man remains quite what he was when he recognizes himself."
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mrgrieves1971
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USA
544 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2006 :  13:10:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where can you find the Catholic's version of Selkie Bride?
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  13:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Podcast! (Episode 10 has what you want.)


free music | Blackolero | Frank Black & Pixies Tributes
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  14:14:08  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by orangemagic

I say this in agreement with those who suggested in a past thread that Frank should just write songs and worry about the rest of the band making them sound Pixieish. I think it's a mistake for Frank to try to write in a "Pixie" style.

I agree fB should never try to write a certain way, and i'm pretty sure he never will. But, just the four of them together (bass, drums, lead, rhythm/duo vocals) would be the Pixies sound, to me, no doubt about it. No matter what style of song Frank could bring to them, those four musicians would work some kind of magic with it.
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I'm sure that in some respects it will be a tad disappointing because of high expectations, but I also think it could be magical.

Just like the 2004 reunion, I'd rather have than haven't.

I say we have a thread to determine and discuss the "sound" differences of the Pixies, Frank Black and the Catholics.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  15:16:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by orangemagic

...played the instrumental Pixie version of "Velvety" and compared to the Devil's Workshop version, it has that unmistakeable Pixies sound.





Hmmm...maybe because unmistakenly it is the PIXIES who are performing the Velvety Instrumental Version, and not the Catholics?
I get what your saying, but also, wasn't VIV created by Charles as a teenager, much like a bunch of other PIXIES gems? I'm pretty sure he helped carve that Joey guitar sound by showing him what to do, as is evident on the FBF early solo recordings where he is definately singing the lead guitar sound over many of his songs. I don't know if it really has to do with them being uncomfortable with the fakey sounding discards Frank has publicly spoken about as much as it is that Kim just doesn't want to do anything period as a band again. That's just my opinion, of course. They are too rooted in their seperated creative ventures to revert back...they are content to be nostalgic, and that's it.

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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =

USA
544 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2006 :  05:13:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remeber when the Pixies first broke up and the first solo album came out, he said something to the effect of "These aren't my solo, non-Pixie songs, these are my next batch of songs. I'm releasing them as a solo artist." Something to that effect. So, I remember listening to that first album thinking that these were the songs that the Pixies would have recorded had they stuck together.

I think Los Angeles, Czar, Brackish Boy, Parry, they sound like Pixie tunes to me.
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number 13
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286 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2006 :  01:50:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Brackish Boy was first recorded during the Trompe Le Monde era. But it wasn't included on the record.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/24/2006 :  05:46:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A few off that record were.


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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =

Sweden
308 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2006 :  12:44:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so what is this talk about how there's "nothing unreleased left in the vault" that I recall Frank talking about after FBF came out... There has to be at least a few take outs, right?
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milo
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Posted - 07/25/2006 :  04:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Surely he wasn't telling the truth. There are some remastered discs of some of the studio albums held by 4AD aren't there? Plus some Pixies tracks like Hang On To Your Ego and Brackish Boy? Plus rumours of an outtake disc from TLM? Plus older tracks like Boom Chick a Boom that must have a studio recording or two somewhere? Like, maybe from when Dancing the Manta Ray and so on were recorded?

Sure there's a few others I have forgotten.
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Sprite
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 07/25/2006 :  11:43:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I imagine the rest of the Pixies could put a unique sound stamp on any new material Frank came up with. The covers I cant forget and Winterlong seem to me more in tune stucturally with the kind of songs Frank has been writing in recent years but the band still turned them into knockout recordings.
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