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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 11/14/2006 : 13:15:47
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Interesting film. The extras were really great though.
I can see myself in the Fine Line crowd footage, thats worth the price alone! :)
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 11/15/2006 : 13:27:34
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| I still have a Brand-new copy of this. Nothing wrong with it (I'm sure it plays in European machines...just not my stupid American one). I'll give it away. I ordered one from Amazon yesterday. |
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2006 : 03:16:58
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Originally posted by Carl
Bought and watched it today (also treated myself to the Deluxe Extended King Kong, "Why?" I hear you groan!). Aside from the skewering things to create drama, in particular the whole 'Dave breakdown' thing, I quite enjoyed it. It's quite candid, and there are some funny sweet, and touching moments. It's quite nicely shot in places, and Daniel Lanois' score is nice and subtle. The deleted scenes are interesting too. Really, fair play to the band for allowing such access, they could have said "No, piss off, we're stressed enough with the reunion as it is!!" As for the band 'tensions', they seemed to get along pretty well to me. What do you expect?! Oh, and it was funny to see Tiven pop up!!
Wow! I got the Pixies Doc and Deluxe King Kong at the same time too...
....anyways, I was surprised at how candid some of the movie got to be...I was also annoyed by the articles where the directors stated their surprise at how boring these people actually are; I am not sure what they expected to see...Spinal Tap?
What was actually quite funny was the meeting with Sigur Ros in their Iceland studio (the all-around shyness and awkwardness). I am glad they deleted Steve Albini (that guy has been milking his association with Pixies far too long now).
All-in-all, it was watchable, but really kind of awkward and boring. |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 11/17/2006 : 08:05:21
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I just got it this week - i'm pretty sure that the filmmakers played with the chronology a bit - i'm 100% certain that the "Something Against You" breakdown happened in New York, as i can't see the same thing happening TWICE and them not commenting on it. Which to me, is a bit cheap - granted, it makes the NY ending a bit happier, but less realistic. I know i was there for it, and i really thought i was witnessing the Pixies breakup 2.0. In fact...read all about it: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11103
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 11/17/2006 : 11:46:40
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Originally posted by frank_black_francis
Wow! I got the Pixies Doc and Deluxe King Kong at the same time too...
Hehe, great minds and all that!!
Brian, I can't imagine what it'd be like to witness that live-it was unsettling enough on DVD!
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LovE-RicH
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Slovenia
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Posted - 11/24/2006 : 16:56:31
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 11/24/2006 : 18:01:16
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| You could always buy the damn DVD. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2006 : 10:23:59
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Originally posted by IS
The deleted scene with Kim in the music store killed me. When the clerk got her credit information, you see that moment of recognition when he sees her name, the as he looks up to see if it's her, and she just happens to look away at that exact moment. The he goes on to ask her if she listens to the Breeders!! Hah hah!! When she asks someone off camera, in complete confusion "Is he fucking with me?" HAH HAH HAH!! Fucking priceless...I loved it. I love Kim Deal...
I don't see how the guy COULDN'T have been screwing with her. There's a very conspicuous CAMERA pointed at her at the entire time she's in the store. He had to figure she was somebody "famous".
I watched the movie last night. I like to think I'd rather not see all the backstage drama, but I probably have a "car wreck" curiousity for it. It was certainly watchable, but also depressing. I can see why Frank has said some less than positive things about it, and as a Frank Black fan (and by extension a Pixies fan, I guess), nothing in the movie added to my appreciation of his music.
I would be curious to see what someone who'd never heard of the band before thinks of the movie, or what someone who DOESN'T like the band thinks of it.
Also, I disagree about some of the scenes that people here say reinforce the idea of camaraderie among the Pixies. Am I the only one who think Joey looks ANNOYED during the "horror movie" outtake? He instantly perks up with interest when Frank brings up a new album, and then seems to deflate when it becomes obvious Frank is only goofing around. Or at least, the filmmakers CUT it that way. No one can claim to know what's going on in Joey's head there, I guess. |
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/30/2006 : 06:37:02
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Well said! Some great stuff--the scene with Kim's ex-husband and Charles' old girlfriend is really great. Very nice. When John Murphy's going through the nostalgia box it's as fun and fascinating and touching as anything in the final cut. That whole scene should be in the movie--really gives insight into some of the personal histories.
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Originally posted by kromkamp
Interesting film. The extras were really great though.
I can see myself in the Fine Line crowd footage, thats worth the price alone! :)
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LovE-RicH
- FB Fan -
Slovenia
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Posted - 12/01/2006 : 09:37:43
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You could always buy the damn DVD.
oh, i will, sooner or later, i love to have original CDs and DVDs of stuff I love. all my pixies cds and a DVD are original, but i'm not working yet and can't buy stuff on the go. not all of us are from america swimming in $$$.;)
i download first, if i like, then i buy. or hope to get it for christmas.;) |
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MarshalltheMarsist
- FB Fan -
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2006 : 12:10:23
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From everything I've read, here and elsewhere, this sounds like a piece of crap. It's a shame that they couldn't make a documentary that focuses on the music for it's own sake, rather than dwelling on personal problems that, as I see it, have nothing to do with anything.
I'm not sure I even want to see it at all, I'm not sure I feel like prying into the lives of my favorite musicians. |
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MarshalltheMarsist
- FB Fan -
USA
54 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2006 : 12:12:11
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Originally posted by Ziggy
You could always buy the damn DVD.
STFU. Unnecessary. |
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Jefrey
= Cult of Ray =
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2006 : 22:32:19
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Originally posted by MarshalltheMarsist
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Originally posted by Ziggy
You could always buy the damn DVD.
STFU. Unnecessary.
Well, actually it is necessary. This site doesn't promote pirating copyrighted material, and pretty much everyone here supports buying the damn album/DVD so our favorite artists can keeping making a living formt heir music.
And, telling a longtime member of the board to STFU - very classy. Not exactly the best way to get people here to respect your opionion.
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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <
Papua New Guinea
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Posted - 12/18/2006 : 10:52:35
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Favourite momemt on LQL - Julian dancing to Vamos
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kfs
= Cult of Ray =
USA
889 Posts |
Posted - 12/19/2006 : 06:34:06
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Julian's a popular boy these days.
I enjoyed Julian introducing the special features!
What a cool kid!! |
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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3111 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 19:03:15
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I finally got this, and really enjoyed it. It's nice having the four of them walking around, talking (or not talking) and playing music on the television in my living room, and it's even better to get some insight into their lives for that brief, bizarre period. For me, the highlight of the whole thing was Kim's reaction to the crowd after the first show. "They were FREAKING me OUT!" It truly was surprising to everyone -- fans, critics, Pixies -- that their star had grown so large during the period between their breakup and their reunion. And for me, that sums up everything related to Frank Black's music: A few people get it right away, but for the most part, it takes 10 years or longer to really make an impact.
I have nothing else original to say about the movie. I think everything's already been said in this thread, but for anyone who missed ejcambell's post several months ago, here's part of it again. It's brilliant.
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Originally posted by ejcampbell
Part of some fans' disappointment over this doc may be that it's not really about the Pixies or for Pixies fans. This is really more about performance and the mystery of how it changes people, performer and audience alike. The Pixies are incidental; this movie's about the frame not the painting.
That being said though, I think the movie does a beautiful job of exploring that mystery. It's almost fair to call this a documentary about religion, the limited salvation that performing in a rock band has on the performers. Most of the movie illustrates how much better the Pixies individually get after they reunite as the Pixies collectively: Kim needs rock and roll to keep her straight, Joey needs it to provide for his family, Charles needs it to reboot his new life (all of his Pixies-related ideas that make it into the movie involve the band starting anew -- changing their name, playing club dates, writing soundtracks for horror movies).
David Lovering is the exception. If this is a religious movie, it's a humble one. His story is the most tragic because not everything be made better by playing in a rock band. That's also why I've come around on the infamous Cobain quote at the beginning. Most of us on this board are sick of seeing it in every article about Frank Black, but this movie may be the only deserved use of it since it was first said.
The Cobain quote at the start and the girl's cover band at the end serve as bookends. Because one is famous and the other's not, we may forget that they're both admitting to the same level of fan worship. Cobain is seen as verification, the anonymous fan as mortifying, but they're both by-products, equally separate from the band they love.
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -
USA
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Posted - 08/23/2007 : 10:49:04
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| Finally got to see this...I enjoyed it...very interesting. My good friend Amanda even had a little shot in the movie at the Aragon in Chicago outside talking to Kim. That kinda freaked me out a little. I'll have to watch it again with the commentary sometime. |
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s_wrenn
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 08/25/2007 : 10:00:53
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I eventually bought this (yesterday)
The ill communication (as Kelley pointed out) between kim, charles, dave and joey is so odd.
In one scene they’re all sitting in separate rows of the same suv as if they were strangers on a bus rather than bandmates.
I thought Kelley and Kim’s banter throughout the film was great.
It was sad to see Dave like that though. The “I‘m so in to music right now” bit in Kim’s dressing room?
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2007 : 11:25:20
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Man, I didnt like this movie. I saw the band 6 times on the reunion tour and at all but 1 of them the band had great cameraderie and fun onstage. Joking and laughing etc etc.
To show it like the tour was a totally joyless grind doesn't match the shows that I saw. If nothing else, if the movie makers weren't engaged in fiction, wouldn't the 'story' be about how they really couldn't stand each other but went onstage and had this faux chemistry? They didn't show that chemistry because it undercut their premise IMO. Seems like they went into this planning to document this turbulent bands tour and when there were no real fireworks they created this unspoken tension angle.
Extra's were good and the live performance too, but, as a movie about our heroes? Yuk. JMHO of course. |
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Srisaket
= Cult of Ray =
Thailand
313 Posts |
Posted - 08/25/2007 : 23:39:02
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I have just managed to get hold of a copy of this and although some of the scenes are really priceless (the first rehearsal, Fine Line and the crowd reaction at Brixton, Kim Deal being mobbed in Iceland) the whole thing seems cobbled together by the film makers who must have recorded loads of footage then realized during production that they couldn't sustain the film the way they wanted - hence the splicing of the cheap comedy/drama concerning Dave Lovering.
The filmmakers say that they financed the film themselves, so why were the Pixies, supposedly unhappy with the filmmakers version, allowed veto over what was released?.
I suppose I need to watch again with Galkin/Cantor's commentary option on the DVD.
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Triakel
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 18:21:33
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I liked the movie. It was boring-ish, but isn't the road boring? Isn't life?
I thought it was interesting how they all seemed to want to connect with each other, but couldn't (or wouldn't). They'd had little to do with each other in half a generation and it was so obvious. I feel the same when I talk to old friends from high school. "How's it being an electrician?" or whatever. "You have six kids? I kissed you for like, a year." Doesn't mean you don't love them. Just what do you say to them? All of the context is so irrevocably altered.
I'm resolved with Kim Deal not being involved in new Pixies material. That die might have been cast in 1990. But I do miss (and want) more of Joey Santiago. He's the talent that I feel might have been squandered (or perhaps better stated, underutilized) after the Pixies' breakup. His guitar attack was interesting and somewhat unique, and he ought to have been in bands of influence, as Kim and Charles were.
But such is life. I thought Dave Lovering was a little creepy in both the movie and when I've seen him do his magic show. I want the guy to do well, but I've known people who remind me of him. Three drinks. What three drinks?
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2007 : 12:27:36
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Originally posted by MarshalltheMarsist
From everything I've read, here and elsewhere, this sounds like a piece of crap. It's a shame that they couldn't make a documentary that focuses on the music for it's own sake, rather than dwelling on personal problems that, as I see it, have nothing to do with anything.
I'm not sure I even want to see it at all, I'm not sure I feel like prying into the lives of my favorite musicians.
I think there are plenty of other documentaries that focus on the music and if you think personal problems have nothing to do with music, you've been listening to too much Kraftwork. To me, getting a glimpse at the lives of artists enhances their music. Most people take things for granted when they go see a band live. They don't consider how physically and mentally exhausting a tour can be. All they care about is the one show they're going to.
Will I ever reach 1000?
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