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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  05:09:28  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
...for no man.

We all love Tom Waits, right? What's your favourite album?
My favourite is The Black Rider; 'November,' 'All the Right Bullets,' 'Black Box Theme,' 'I'll Shoot the Moon', 'T'aint No Sin,' and of course, the title track; brilliant!

My least favourite is Closing Time. I'd never heard properly early Tom Waits until that, and I kind of wish I hadn't.



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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  05:11:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i recently nicked the black rider off someones mp3 player, but haven't really listened to it yet (apart from the title track for obvious reasons).



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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/16/2006 :  05:14:33  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As boring as it is I never get tired of Mule Variations although Bone machine is definately a contender.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2006 :  08:16:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My order of preference (for the ones I have)...

Rain Dogs
Blood Money
Swordfishtrombones
Bone Machine
Mule Variations
The Black Rider (a distant last)


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Fartbone
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2006 :  09:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ALICE - yes all in caps


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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2006 :  09:14:14  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My favourite by far is Black Rider, it was the first of his I heard. I´d borrowed it from my aunt while I was supposed to be studying for my end-of-school exams in summer 95 and felt this data-bomb go off in me and my bedroom stank of oil paints from then on. It´s one of my 5 favourite albums.
After that one, the Frank´s Wild years trilogy, with the eponymous one my favourite of those. Mule Variations, Bone Machine and Real Gone get regular airings too (and everything with Marc Ribot on guitar). Of the earlier stuff, Blue Valentine, Closing Time or Nighthawks.

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silvereel
- FB Fan -

USA
112 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2006 :  12:39:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"black rider" is a good solid album, one of his best. but i think my favorite is "tom waits: VH1 Storytellers". that was an excellent performance of songs spanning his career... really an awesome album.
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2006 :  19:11:59  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Though Rain Dogs is great, my favorite is Foreign Affairs, with Small Change in 2nd place.
What I listen to most is a Cd I burned with all my favorite songs, like:
"Postcard from a Hooker..."
"Pasties and a G-String"
"Hang on St. Christopher"
"Telephone Call from Istanbul"
"Cold Cold Ground" &
"Cold Water"

I wish that I had heard "The Black Rider" before I saw FB do it (I just like hearing the originals first).

He started a show in Northampton, MA in 2001 with it, saying "Let's break the ice with a little Tom Waits" and everyone went crazy. After seeing him do it that night and again in Vermont, the album version was a little disappointing. ("I've Seen Your Picture" was also 100 times better than the album version.)

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  05:23:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My favourites of his are always changing. Right now I'm really digging The Heart of Saturday Night, and would probably say it's my favourite. It's just got this wonderful, folky vibe to it that I don't find in any of his other records (which isn't to say that his other records are bad, but just that this one is very unique and I love it). Other top contenders are Frank's Wild Years, Alice, and Small Change. I'm ashamed to say I don't own and haven't heard Blue Valentine, Foreign Affairs, The Black Rider, or Mule Variations, so I can't comment on those. It's been a while since I've listened to Nighthawks at the Diner, and I think I might like it a lot more after recently rediscovering The Heart of Saturday Night.

Big Time is also worth a mention. Those versions of "Shore Leave" and "Telephone Call from Istanbul" in particular are mindblowing!


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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 03/17/2006 :  07:23:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
gotta love heart attack and vine but black rider is the classic


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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  15:14:02  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Geez...all of you are clueless!
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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
388 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  19:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
misleadtheworld, what is it you don't like about Closing Time? just not exciting or....?

I like
in order
closing time
heart of sat night
alice
nighthawks



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edbanky
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
388 Posts

Posted - 03/20/2006 :  22:17:47  Show Profile  Visit edbanky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I honestly think he has (more or less) gotten younger, and better, with age. Not to completely discount his pre-Island, pre-Kathleen output, but it truly seems like he is working backwards. I love it.

So for me, it's something like:

Bone Machine / Real Gone
Mule
Rain Dogs
Frank's
Black Rider
Blood Money
SwordfishTBones
Alice

Yeah, so they aren't exactly reverse chronological, but listen to Real Gone, and then try to fully ingest that the dude who conceptualized and then realized the album is old enough to be your dad. He's a really good antedote to the "24 year old made Doolittle" syndrome.

Tom Waits must live to be 86, and never stop making records. I bet his 34th record, when it's released in 2034, will somehow prove to be the inspiration for the forbears of rock music, in a cosmic, circular way.

I wish my dad would beatbox for me every once in a while.

Probably my favorite song of his is on Black Rider though: November. Partly, it's the "November seems odd, you're my firing squad" line, but it's more the poignant use of the saw (?) that I used to think was a Theremin (or is it the other way around). Sure the Beach Boys had a Theremin-like instrument backing up a song, but November has a f***ing saw solo. Saws aren't supposed to make you cry, unless they're ploughing through your leg.

I mean:

"With my hair slicked back, with carrion shellac"

C'mon.

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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  03:24:44  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MissMaceo

misleadtheworld, what is it you don't like about Closing Time? just not exciting or....?


I came to it after having listened to a few of his later albums --Black Rider, Alice, Mule, etc-- and was just a little disappointed.
I don't think I've been that fair on it actually. It's not that I wanted to hear another Alice or Black Rider; I feel that it's just missing that tiny element of humour and darkness that seems woven into a handful of his other albums, and that's what first attracted me to Tom Waits. I almost feel that nearly anyone could've made Closing Time. The same can't be said for a good percentage of his other albums.



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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  04:49:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, for any of you who haven't heard them, my favourite Tom Waits recordings, period, are definitely the KPFK Folk Scene sessions he did in 1973, '74, and '75. UNBELIEVABLY good stuff! Incredible, a MUST have for any Tom Waits fan. They are my absolute favourite, most prized bootlegs I own by any artist (well, except perhaps all of my Beach Boys Smile bootlegs, but that's different...).


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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  11:52:48  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I love, or at least like, all his albums, but Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs remain my favorites.

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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  14:58:28  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

By the way, for any of you who haven't heard them, my favourite Tom Waits recordings, period, are definitely the KPFK Folk Scene sessions he did in 1973, '74, and '75. UNBELIEVABLY good stuff! Incredible, a MUST have for any Tom Waits fan. They are my absolute favourite, most prized bootlegs I own by any artist (well, except perhaps all of my Beach Boys Smile bootlegs, but that's different...).


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Where does one get those? I'll start looking around online. You've definately interested me.

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2006 :  23:22:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

I love, or at least like, all his albums, but Swordfishtrombones and Rain Dogs remain my favorites.


Yeah, the typical ones that people get into, but they really make an impact. He has so many great songs on varying albums. Frank's Wild Years is a great album, too. Anyone see Big Time? That's a cool stage show-concert movie

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2006 :  05:04:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prozacrat

quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

By the way, for any of you who haven't heard them, my favourite Tom Waits recordings, period, are definitely the KPFK Folk Scene sessions he did in 1973, '74, and '75. UNBELIEVABLY good stuff! Incredible, a MUST have for any Tom Waits fan. They are my absolute favourite, most prized bootlegs I own by any artist (well, except perhaps all of my Beach Boys Smile bootlegs, but that's different...).


ˇViva los Católicos!



Where does one get those? I'll start looking around online. You've definately interested me.

http://www.prozacrat.com



Do you have Soulseek and high speed internet? If you do, let me know your username, and I'll let you download them from me. If not, I can send you discs if you'd like.


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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
411 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2006 :  19:53:21  Show Profile  Visit Apesy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Frank's Wild Years is probably my favorite, but they're all pretty spectacular.

Actually, Nighthawks at the Diner may tie Frank's for me. The man set up a real functioning nightclub in his studio for that one, he did!

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Edited by - Apesy on 03/22/2006 19:54:50
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2006 :  13:33:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, nice atmosphere on that. He's quite the entertainer too, with the little quips and everything.

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http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003019105

Waits Round Up Three Discs Worth Of 'Orphans'



August 17, 2006, 4:10 PM ET

Jonathan Cohen, N.Y.

Tom Waits opens his vaults for the first time on the three-disc collection "Orphans: Brawlers, Bawlers and Bastards," due Nov. 21 via Anti-. Of the 54 tracks, 30 are new recordings. The set will also feature a 94-page booklet.

The "Brawlers" disc is dominated by Waits' more blues-leaning material, and boasts contributions from Primus' Les Claypool, guitarists Dave Alvin and Marc Ribot, saxophonist Ralph Carney, harmonica virtuoso Charlie Musselwhite and drummer Brain.

"Bawlers" features ballads, waltzes and Celtic tunes, including "Goodnight Irene," "Little Drop of Poison" and "Bend Down the Branches." The "Bastards" disc loads up on Waits' experimental side via such songs as "King Kong," "Spidey's Wild Ride," "Army Ants" and "Book of Moses."

Waits says the album is full of "songs of dubious origin rescued from cruel fate and now left wanting only to be cared for. Show that you are not afraid and take them home. They don't bite, they just need attention."

The artist just completed a rare, short tour that featured a midnight show at Cleveland's House of Blues, Waits' first club date in 30 years.

Here is the track list for "Orphans":

"Brawlers":
"Lie To Me"
"LowDown"
"2:19"
"Fish In The Jailhouse"
"Bottom Of The World"
"Lucinda"
"Ain't Goin' Down To The Well"
"Lord I've Been Changed"
"Puttin' On The Dog"
"Road To Peace"
"All The Time"
"The Return Of Jackie and Judy"
"Walk Away"
"Sea Of Love"
"Buzz Fledderjohn"
"Rains On Me"

"Bawlers":
"Bend Down The Branches"
"You Can Never Hold Back Spring"
"Long Way Home"
"Widow's Grove"
"Little Drop Of Poison"
"Shiny Things"
"World Keeps Turning"
"Tell It To Me"
"Never Let Go"
"Fannin Street"
"Little Man"
"It's Over"
"If I Have To Go"
"Goodnight Irene"
"The Fall Of Troy"
"Take Care Of All My Children"
"Down There By The Train"
"Danny Says"
"Jayne's Blue Wish"
"Young At Heart"

"Bastards":
"What Keeps Mankind Alive"
"Children's Story"
"Heigh Ho"
"Army Ants"
"Books Of Moses"
"Bone Chain"
"Two Sisters"
"First Kiss"
"Dog Door"
"Redrum"
"Nirvana"
"Home I'll Never Be"
"Poor Little Lamb"
"Altar Boy"
"The Pontiac"
"Spidey's Wild Ride"
"King Kong"
"On The Road"


Edited by - Carl on 08/18/2006 16:46:32
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2006 :  19:52:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I cannot wait for this. Thanks for the heads up!

3 discs of Tom Waits songs ... wow.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2006 :  20:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks great!

It also looks like Tom was allocated a bigger budget than usual for his cover art.


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mikaelp75
- FB Fan -

131 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2006 :  23:18:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Some of my favourite Tom songs are on there, especially Never Let Go & Walk Away.
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2006 :  23:57:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the fact that I was totally into hair metal while Waits was releasing what I now consider to be his best work.

I got some strange bootleg of the Black Rider with a lot of raw cuts on it. It's probably my fave. I'm on a quest to find out what instrument is makin' them BING BONG sounds on Gospel Train. An amazing piece of work that album. The Flash Pan Hunter is in my top five songs ever methinks.

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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2006 :  06:00:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please tell me that's not the album cover! It looks like something a high school student would make in a graphic design class! UGGHH!


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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2006 :  06:38:32  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That orphan set is going to rock. As far as the cover, it fits right in with most of his more recent album art. As far as my favorite Tom, I've got to go with Rain Dogs. I'd been listening to Tom for years before Black Letter Days, and I was suprised and delighted to hear Black Rider kick off and close that album. Unfortunatly, Black Rider is probably one of my least favorite Tom Waits albums. I tend to like Frank's version of the title track. Besides Rain Dogs, Swordfishtrombones, Bone Machine, Alice, and Blood Money are all right up there. Real Gone is pretty sweet too, although a little TOO raw in places for my taste. As far as classic Tom Waits, gotta go with Small Change or Heart of Saturday Night.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2007 :  04:14:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Waits in Terry Gilliam's new movie!

"Aw yeah, that's the good stuff!"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2007 :  04:21:14  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can contribute to this now! At least in a very minor way. I've listened to Mule Variations a lot recently, and it's the only Waits album I've really heard. I like it lots and am starting to think I've made a mistake in leaving it this long. I also have Bone Machine to get through, but after that... who knows.


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  09:56:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a short animated film made in 1979 by John Lamb, rotoscoped from a live Waits performance of The One That Got Away:

Tom Waits For No One.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  11:04:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From Kronos Quartet's MySpace page:

quote:
Kronos teamed up with Tom Waits for a live performance of Diamond In Your Mind at the Healing the Divide concert, and we've posted it on MySpace! The digital single of Diamond In Your Mind is available today on iTunes and eMusic. The full album, Healing the Divide: A Concert for Peace and Reconciliation, features Diamond In Your Mind and three additional Waits & Kronos tracks - Way Down in the Hole, God's Away on Business, and Lost in the Harbor. The album will be released on July 10th by Anti-.

The rare collaboration between Kronos and Tom Waits, with bassist Greg Cohen, was recorded at the September 21, 2003 Healing The Divide benefit concert at New York's Avery Fisher Hall, which took place as the culmination of the Dalai Lama's 20-day U.S. tour. About his participation in the event, Waits said: "I'm no fool. It's a spiritual insurance policy. Hell, at my age, the next group I put together, everyone may be playing a harp. All kidding aside, I owed His Holiness a favor. He did all my papers in school."


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trobrianders
> Teenager of the Year <

Papua New Guinea
3302 Posts

Posted - 06/27/2007 :  15:35:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been holding my breath ever since FB floated the notion of TW producing a Pixies album. Lie to me. Tell me it's going to happen. Write to somebody. Do something. Make it happen. And was TW's album Bone Machine any kind of reference to Surfer Rosa's opener? I'd like to know if TW likes FB's music or if he's even heard it.

I agree with everybody's choices cos whichever TW album is on could qualify as a favourite. Nighthawks At The Diner, though, is a favourite when it's not spinning too. Putnam County could be his greatest song ever.

Seeing him live on the Real Gone tour was an amazing feeling. Maybe the 20 year wait had something to do with it.

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misterwoe
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Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 06/28/2007 :  08:15:07  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Did anyone catch Frank Black's foreward in the Tom Waits Reader? Good stuff.

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