| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
 Posted - 11/20/2005 : 13:54:57
|
Do you think Snape's good or bad?
GOOD
 |
|
|
misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2005 : 14:05:09
|
GOOD.
 |
 |
|
|
zub_the_goat
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2005 : 14:06:10
|
bah....there isnt any such thing as good or bad....BUT hes more on the side of good (ie harry potter) he did what he had to do
Edited so that people who havent finished the last book dont hunt me down |
Edited by - zub_the_goat on 11/20/2005 14:58:06 |
|
|
|
Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 11/20/2005 : 14:29:03
|
bad, no question.
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
|
Edited by - Llamadance on 11/20/2005 14:29:37 |
|
|
|
PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 06:56:01
|
misleadtheworld, zub, glad we agree.
he is BLATANTLY good. we all know he's a bit of a dubious character, obviously has delved into the black arts in his past... and you'd think by what he does at the end he'd definitely be on the bad side.
but dumbledore ain't a fool. i'm pretty sure dumbledore knew this was going to happen and even asked snape to do it, for the greater good.
some evidence...
hagrid overhearing snape and dumbledore argueing and snape saying something about him not wanting to carry through with it. of course, you could see this as snape's unwillingless to carry on as a double agent in general and thus paint him in bad light. but i reckon dumbledore is telling him he's going to have to kill him.
remember when harry had to force dumbledore to drink that stuff in the cave? the book described harry as hating himself, and repulsed by his actions.... almost exactly the same way snape's expression was described when he was about the kill dumbledore (ie. filled with hate, revulsion). he didn't hate dumbledore... he hated what he had to do.
when snape was making his unbreakable vow... he twitched before he made it. obviously a sign he wasn't happy about it.
the fact he ran off with the malfoys at the end. why was he only blocking harry's curses? why didn't he grab him and take him to voldemort? i can't remember exactly, but i think snape and the malfoys weren't even running with they death eaters, they were running away from them too. they're gonna go into hiding, snape will convince them to turn to the right side like dumbledore was trying to do.
there is obviously a lot more back story to snape and why dumbledore trusts him so much, and this will undoubtedly come out in the last book.
before dumbledore's death he managed to tell harry everything he needed to know so he could continue the battle on his own. was dumbledore even important anymore? he was getting old and weak, he knew this, and if snape killing him meant snape still had the trust of lord voldemort, it was probably for the best. snape's position could help the order a lot more than dumbledore now could.
blah blah..
oh, and llama, we'll see in 2007 when the last book comes out! learn to love, and you'll see snape for what he is. a wanker, but not an evil wanker.
|
Edited by - PixieSteve on 11/21/2005 07:23:31 |
|
|
|
VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 08:28:16
|
I'll admit that I initially thought Snape might really be evil, but I was soon convinced otherwise. I agree with Steve's reasoning. Besides, as someone else pointed out, Dumbledore wouldn't plead with Snape not to kill him. After all, he thinks death is "the next great adventure."
I haven't seen the new movie yet. I hope to do so sometime this week.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
|
|
|
PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 11:03:37
|
yeah good point vovat. he said "severus, please..." not "severus, don't.." or whatever. he was probably saying "please carry on with it" just as he pleaded with harry to keep passing the poison to him.
another thing. we know that voldemort believes snape is on his side, and dumbledore believes he is on his. snape said in chapter 2, "how do you think i could fool the dark lord, the most powerful wizard on the planet?"
remember book 5 i think, dumbledore got snape to teach harry occlumency? from this we know snape is a master of it, better than dumbledore, otherwise dumbledore would have taught harry himself. and seeing as dumbledore is the only wizard voldemort feared i'm gonna say snape could easily block voldemort's attempt at legilimency. so maybe he's using it on dumbledore to hide the fact he's really on the voldemort's side? dumbledore is not stupid, we know this. we also know that HE knows snape is a master of occlumency. he knows very well that he could be tricked with it, so obviously there is something huge and binding between them that we don't about, and this is the reason he trusts snape, not just because snape said he was good.
|
|
|
|
Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 11:17:01
|
quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
oh, and llama, we'll see in 2007 when the last book comes out! learn to love, and you'll see snape for what he is. a wanker, but not an evil wanker.
see that's what JK wants you to think. All will be revealed in "Harry Potter and the Treachery of Hogwarts"
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
|
|
|
|
PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 11:43:28
|
if snape ISN'T good it'll be because she's changed the story drastically since book 6 was released. and seeing as she's been planning this and building up to it for years and years, it's unlikely.
|
|
|
|
floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 12:07:26
|
| i got twelve sided die |
|
|
|
Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2543 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 12:16:51
|
quote:
Originally posted by floop
i got twelve sided die
You walk into the Habanero Cave, unfortunately without a Thief in your party you do not discover the trap until too late. You are smothered in jelly, and as you open your mouth to scream your lungs are incinerated. Lose 300 Hit Points.
That which does not kill me postpones the inevitable.
|
|
|
|
VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 11/21/2005 : 14:09:06
|
I'm still waiting for "Harry Potter and the Avian Flu Outbreak," with special guest author Frank Lee.
"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares." |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Harry Potter
