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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2005 :  16:10:35  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dammit the direction of the filming of the french concert f--kin sucks!!!!! The switching of camera angles at 2 second intervals is so damn stupid and frustrating!! Geez, give us a little longer to make out what we're looking at.

STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!

The f--king director should have layed off the cocaine that night!

frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2005 :  17:09:43  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
...and if that is not enough (I neglected to mention) we get to see about 15% of Joey's solo on Vamos thanks once again to the excellent direction....Thanks F--kface!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2005 :  00:54:39  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
haha, that's a pity. But I have to say it's some kind of trend in directing,
did you see Brian Wilson Presents Smile on DVD by any chance? There are 15 people playing
and I think they wanted to show everybody on every line of the lyrics.


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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2005 :  05:12:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's annoying as hell.

I prefer the look of some of the other shows that we're offered a glimpse of, LOL.
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moro
- FB Fan -

Italy
192 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2005 :  08:36:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't get the dvd yet.....the French concert is the same cameras than the one broadcast via satellite tv?
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2005 :  19:22:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I haven't watched... i am saving it for tomorrow or sat when I can pop popcorn and look at it with my undevided attention... my first front row seat for the PIXIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"
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pixiestu
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2564 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2005 :  09:04:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why have Debaser, No.13 Baby, Caribou and Nimrod's Son been cut from the main show? They were on the one which was broadcast and from what I remember they were good performances. And can someone tell me if the intro to Cactus was longer on the broadcast.

"The arc of triumph"

Edited by - pixiestu on 10/08/2005 04:05:31
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2010 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2005 :  13:51:36  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I could't agree more. The Eurockéennes show is absolutely unwatchable. (Death to Fabien Raymond!)
Luckily, the 15 extra songs are all great and nicely filmed.
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Fartbone
- FB Fan -

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  07:03:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lighten up fools. Be happy there's a dvd out for purchase. Obviously the band signed off on it so what are you bitching about, camera angles?!

Throw it away then and wait until something sutible comes your way.











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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  07:41:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why don't you lighten up?

It's not as if people are knocking the band themselves. Indeed, we're loving the bonus songs and all that.
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Fartbone
- FB Fan -

USA
171 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  11:32:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

Why don't you lighten up?





I just find it stupid that some people must bash every single thing released. There's always some fucker that needs to put a negative twist on a positive release. Sometimes everything isn't good enough for those types. I'll lighten up when people stop being stupid and it looks like that will be a never.




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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  16:37:48  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I appreciate it...watched it twice so far....but there are things I wanted to see, but couldnt see because of the way it was filmed, and that sucks.

More often than not there are things that suck despite being good overall...for example, have you ever been to a show and the guy who works the lighting thinks he's the artist who has a performance to do? It can be very distracting to the point where you cannot fully enjoy something that you paid good money to watch.

Yes? Well the person who directed the taping of the DVD was one of those guys.

...and had the Pixies been more involved in its release, it would have likely taken longer to be released, if at all. This problem with the film is just that obvious!! (that being said, i'm still glad it was released)

...had the director been more familiar with the Pixies, I wouldnt be throwing my hands up in the air during Joey's solo in Vamos.

...its a good DVD, but there are things that suck about it.

...Cake is good, but we'd prefer to eat it off plates and not ashtrays......

Edited by - frank_black_francis on 10/10/2005 16:41:33
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  17:29:30  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
but what do you expect - it was recorded for TV. the director probaly had never heard of the pixies, but was just another day at the "office"
sure, the camera work is annoying, but not much you can do about it.



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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  18:47:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis

...Cake is good, but we'd prefer to eat it off plates and not ashtrays......



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johnnyribcage
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1301 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  19:11:32  Show Profile  Visit johnnyribcage's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey billgoodman, I haven't checked into it or anything, but I noticed the similarity to the Smile DVD, too... I can't explain the deal with the constant camera angle change. If you ask me, I'd rather see a dead on shot of the stage, wings in, of the band with no angle change at all. However, as it is with Smile, I can't really complain, I've been waiting for this so long they could have released a product half this good and I'd have been pleased. Come to think of it, same deal with Smile... Ever notice a common thread with Van Dyke Parks Smile lyrics and a lot of catholics+honeycomb FB lyrics?
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andrewface
- FB Fan -

27 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  20:27:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the band has sold out unfortunetly...thats why they are releasing this DVD...hopefully the new record...if they make one will kick ass...i still have utter most respect for the pixies and cant wait to see them live for a third time...
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <

New Zealand
3426 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2005 :  21:06:16  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis

...and if that is not enough (I neglected to mention) we get to see about 15% of Joey's solo on Vamos thanks once again to the excellent direction....Thanks F--kface!



i just watched my original copy (taken from the french tv broadcast) again and i think that the direction of vamos is actually pretty good.
sure, we don't see him from the front for the entire thing, but it seemed to be 90% focused on joey thru his bit.
i assume the original broadcast isn't different to the official release...but as i don't have the official release yet, i can't say, but i think the vamos direction is actually one of the better bits for the entire show



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illusion dog
- FB Fan -

39 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  05:22:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andrewface

the band has sold out unfortunetly...


Nah they've just cashed-in, which is why no one really minds.
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edisnotdead
- FB Fan -

17 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2005 :  10:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
have all of you lost your mind. the dvd is incredible. the picture is beatiful. the sound quality and performances are stunning. and the price was less than 20 dollars. great release.
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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2005 :  05:24:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by illusion dog

quote:
Originally posted by andrewface

the band has sold out unfortunetly...


Nah they've just cashed-in, which is why no one really minds.



I agree, if they had really 'sold out' we would be seeing frank advertising mouthwash etc.

>_>

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2005 :  07:42:07  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Isn't it only selling out if you go against your principles? I've never heard anything about Frank particularly hating mouthwash.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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st23
- FB Fan -

Belgium
3 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2005 :  17:39:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
being a director myself, I'm not going to blame this guy.
remember it was a FESTIVAL, and it was not videotaped for a DVD, but for TV!
It's a shitty MTV style cut up nonsense.
I'm sure he'd done a complete different style if it wasn't for TV and the big ass screen next to the stage.

I've also been approached by the editor of the other tracks to asks what songs to include etc... I begged him for the broken guitar in Vamos on one of the Paris gugs, but it seemed there was no footage of it :(

Still need to take a day off to really watch it...
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2005 :  19:46:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there was a broken gutair? cool.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2005 :  08:33:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think Joey's Les Paul fell off the stand, and the neck snapped.

Was anybody there?
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2005 :  08:57:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course people were there! Otherwise, the concert would be cancelled!!

"Join the Honeycult!"

Edited by - Carl on 11/29/2005 08:57:49
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1220 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2005 :  15:31:04  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

I think Joey's Les Paul fell off the stand, and the neck snapped.

Was anybody there?




Goddamn! I know they can afford it but still! You at least want the pleasure of smashing it up yourself if it's gotta die..

"Early to bed and early to rise makes a man healthy, morecambe and wise"
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 11/29/2005 :  17:45:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hehehe.

Frank gave Joey a big hug, bless him.
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