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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  11:52:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My dear bereft Catholics fans,

Let us count the myriad ways we love this super-duper song!

But a few items on my long list:

• It's the sixth track and that's a good number

• It's on a killer album


• Mister Scott Boutier does some amazing drumming.

• Let's be honest, the last minute and half of that song is one big orgasm.

• Gotta love the growly loud Frank.

• The song's got the whole Catholics-as-guitar-gods vibe going on:

I miss FB+theCs so much, it hurts to look at that picture



• The reverb or whatever it is during the last couple of seconds is a nice touch; the song maintains its goodness from start to finish.

• The lyrics, so simple, so relatable, so true, so wise.

Close your eyes
Or you’ll have a lot of tears to cry
So hey now if you’re wise
You won’t open up your eyes
Close your ears
’cause you don’t really want to hear
The things that give you tears
So don’t open up your ears
And if you sleep
Well, you better not go too deep
’cause bad things they will seep
Right down into your sleep
And if you wake
Well, you’re gonna have a nervous break
So sleep now for goodness’ sake
Sleep for goodness’ sake
I need peace
I get so down
I’ve got these
Turned up so loud
Turned up so loud



Long live the Catholics!




Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank

two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  12:39:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i just listened to this song, and than i saw your thread. funnily enough, this song spins in my head for the last two days. i second every word you say, and don't forget the intro!!!

Close your eyes
Or you’ll have a lot of tears to cry
So hey now if you’re wise
You won’t open up your eyes

LISTEN TO THESE MAGIC WORDS! AGAIN AND AGAIN!!

but, kathryn, how did you came to vote of DITS??????? obviously, just like me, you are full of contradictions...

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  12:42:34  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah! Now we're talking. I Need Peace is indeed a fantastic song on a fabulous album. The Catholics version from their 2003 tour was absolutely stunning. ** sob **


Denis

"We brush our teeth with tequila." - Guitar Wolf
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
281 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  13:53:39  Show Profile  Click to see toeknee's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Obviously the best bit is the fabulous solo at 2:42. Not sure about the rest, feel it goes on a bit too long?
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  18:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your right about the drumming K, most notably his snare rolls between the "turned up so loud"s and the begining of the chorus. Tickles me fancy every time. And how he backs off the mic when he repeats the chorus for the last time. That whole album is about as tight and ferocious as a rock band can get in my opinion.
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Mister Dog
- FB Fan -

USA
91 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  18:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank Black sure does get "so down" a lot

Are you lookin' for the motherlode?
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2005 :  20:21:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But you gotta get up to get down.
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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =

353 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  02:20:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I closed my eyes....

and then my imagination started to wander...

All of a sudden I now picture Metallica covering this song. Complete with all of the headbanging, hair swinging around in circles, strumming guitars down near their ankles, Lars shirtless, looks of constipation on their faces.

It rocked!


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Boy, you sure can holler.
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Peter Walker
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
189 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  04:15:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scruvs

I closed my eyes....

and then my imagination started to wander...

All of a sudden I now picture Metallica covering this song. Complete with all of the headbanging, hair swinging around in circles, strumming guitars down near their ankles, Lars shirtless, looks of constipation on their faces.

It rocked!


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Boy, you sure can holler.



Blimey, that image is not so much "I Need Peace" as "I Need Help"....

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  04:19:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome

how he backs off the mic when he repeats the chorus for the last time.


that slays me every time

quote:

That whole album is about as tight and ferocious as a rock band can get in my opinion.


All hail the Catholics!


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <

Poland
4698 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  04:27:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's not a bad song but not great either... i saw this performed live before i heard it on the album, i think.



Edited by - PixieSteve on 09/23/2005 04:27:52
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  04:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it was vilainde who said it first, but the bridge/outro/whatever in that song (that very blues-y part) is one of the best things the Catholics ever did. It's an okay song, but that one part... wow.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  06:47:16  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I saw the Catholics do it a couple of times in 2003, at the Astoria and the Sheperds Bush Empire. Excellent, excellent song live.


Ooh, he's got an arm off!
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:51:50  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
everything everyone said rings true...

and the Lyle solo gives me chills. that motherfucker and his lead playing....good golly...
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Superabounder
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1041 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  23:03:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lyle's guitar playing literally scratches my brain it's soooo good on this album. His and Frank's guitar tones are perfect on this cd. I have always loved distortion and they got it down just as guitars should be.



All of the true things I am about to tell you are shameless lies
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  04:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  04:40:40  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
I miss FB+theCs so much, it hurts to look at that picture


Well look at this one instead. The Men in Black.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  05:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see your Men in Black and raise you the Men Lounging




Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  06:08:05  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm all in.



A pair of Lyle's pedals. MXR Distortion 2 and a Cry Baby Wah Wah
I'm sure you have no choice but to fold.

They'll be no peace here with Lyle around.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 09/24/2005 :  17:51:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, thanks to this thread I'm rediscovering this mighty song. Feeling nostalgic for a band that I never saw live :(


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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2005 :  19:21:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy

Ah, thanks to this thread I'm rediscovering this mighty song. Feeling nostalgic for a band that I never saw live :(






Don't you think that someday, they might play together again??? I bet they will some day :)

"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  08:50:26  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well, the Catholics were kind of a loose, ever-changing group anyway. When people say they want to see "the Catholics" again, I imagine they mean the members of the most recent line-up, and not simply Frank going back to recording and touring with a band called the Catholics. I think it's quite possible that he'll work with some, if not all, of the former Catholics on an individual basis, but maybe not so much that they'll all play together again.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1485 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  10:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but maybe not so much that they'll all play together again.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
[/quote]

That kind of talk is a hangin' offense in this thread VoVat.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  10:18:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
guess what. on friday evening, i went on a drive with my car. there i have an .mp3-disc with ~150 fb/pixies-songs. i always put it in random mode. and the first song to play was...I NEED PEACE! i headed into the setting sun with those guitars blasting out! woah, great! and the songs that followed weren't bad either: freedom rock & ten percenter !



I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  10:23:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and than this:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10970

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  10:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
Originally posted by VoVat

but maybe not so much that they'll all play together again.



That kind of talk is a hangin' offense in this thread VoVat.
[/quote]

This is why I love you, Heywood.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  11:03:10  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Meh, I've just never been a big Catholics fan. I mean, I like the work Frank did with them, but I never really saw them as a cohesive unit so much as just "Frank's back-up band." No offense to any die-hard Catholics fans on here.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  11:10:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry, what? The Catholics were not a cohesive unit? I got cohesive right here, VoVat, right here, babe. Cohesive:




I'm just sorry that Scott Boutier's cropped out of that photo.



Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank

Edited by - kathryn on 09/26/2005 11:11:38
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  13:16:35  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

I'm sorry, what?

He said "Frank's back-up band"

And this is a huge compliment.
But they weren't just any old back up band, K, i'm sure you'd agree.

Edited by - fbc on 09/27/2005 01:47:09
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2005 :  14:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They were AND ARE AND WILL ALWAYS BE, The Mighty Catholics.




Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2005 :  01:47:20  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Amen.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  16:11:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc




wow, i wonder when that picture was taken.. old school baby..


Edited by - floop on 10/02/2005 16:11:44
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 10/02/2005 :  16:44:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank looks eerily similar to how he does at the moment, what with the regrown hair and all.
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JustJeff
- FB Fan -

53 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2005 :  19:38:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the guitar riff in the verse is what gets me.
it's slow, yet fast.
very Frank. Plus, I get so down.
It's great 'cause it's true.
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2005 :  19:40:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the earlier and far superior version on the John Peel session, Close Your Eyes. That kicks ass.


Get my keys
Let's go drive round
Get some peace
Turn this so loud
Turn this so loud

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JustJeff
- FB Fan -

53 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2005 :  19:45:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
plus, the cut time solo in the middle.
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