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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
 Posted - 09/15/2005 : 00:20:23
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Well. This song is not popular amongst the forum. One more reason for me to be proud of saying: "I love this song"!
It's soulfull and honest, one of the best of the album along with Another Velvet Nightmare.
I love to get stoned and listen to those songs... I realised I now now all the words even if I never "learnt" them... That's a sign (you know the rest).
Kisses!
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
3648 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 00:31:40
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My fave line is:
Halfway between blood and the sky
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 01:56:50
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I agree with you hW, oh yes I do. It's so peaceful.
The song and chords just float for two minutes and are a pleasure to play.
Stripped to the bone, Frank's delivered a most beautiful sentiment, straight from his heart.
I bet he didn't even have to think when he wrote this one.
My fave: ...I stopped long enough to breathe |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 06:14:24
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Violet, Violet
Suckered in these poor fools it would seem
halfway between
off milk and old cream
This stinky old song makes me heave.....
 Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death and as sweet as love. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 06:16:12
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there we go again
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God save the Noisies |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 06:18:24
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what? copying is the highest form of thingy
Coffee should be black as hell, strong as death and as sweet as love. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 06:30:38
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| boo! hiss!!! get back to ya Brit Pop. |
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 07:43:07
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"Violet" makes a great lullaby. Change the words and direct it to your own baby. It puts them right asleep (maybe along with most of the forum users). I like this song.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 14:48:47
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I said it before and I'll say it again, I think it's super sweet.
"I ain't goin to be what I ain't" |
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Zsolt G.
- FB Fan -
117 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 16:38:13
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| I don't much care for it, but don't ya'll think it's kind of like John Lennon's "Julia" (about his dead mum) on the Beatles White Album ? Kinda Sappy and gross. Or maybe HAL 9000 singing "Daisy" in 2001, also creepy and gross. I like the lyrics of Violet because he kind of takes all the different definitions of violet (flower, color, symbol, etc.) and turns it into a love song. The song is poor, though. |
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2005 : 18:02:13
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 00:48:09
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I don't think it's as bad as "Strange Goodbye" (which I dislike solely for the "evening turns into years/laughing through all of these tears" rhyme -- I know Frank's into the "embracing cliches" thing and I'm all for it and have been all for it for years, but YEESH! I'm almost surprised Frank didn't fit a "baby/don't mean maybe" rhyme in there), which seems to get criticized less, as a song (rather than for the Jean Black vocals), here.
I can live with "Violet". I don't like or dislike it. |
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 01:29:47
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Violet, Violet,
The pits of the album for me
It might be a waltz
but is really pure schmaltz
To skip for eternity.
"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues) |
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 02:58:02
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You guys suck!!!
If I were Frank, I would be very offended by your comments and parodies!!!
But at the same time, if i were Frank, I would'nt roam on this forum...
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 06:20:38
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| If I were Frank, I would be calling up Willie Nelson, Tom Waits, and the whole Osmond family for the next album. |
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hWolsky
= Cult of Ray =
France
696 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 06:22:16
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If I were Frank, i would play Santo with the Pixies... Okay I start a new thread.
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 08:01:10
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Violet is Frank's worst song since You're such a wire. (It had to be said)
But Strange Goodbye is brilliant! (It also had to be said) |
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2005 : 12:46:45
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I was listening to Violet this morning as if trying with all my might to like it, but alas....I had to skip forward to the next song.
I don't know....personally if I was Frank Black's wife and he wrote that song for me......I don't think the tears in my eyes would be that of joy.
sorry..... |
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
431 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2005 : 06:32:34
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HeywoodJablome
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1485 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2005 : 08:05:04
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Originally posted by The Holiday Son
Violet is Frank's worst song since You're such a wire. (It had to be said)
But Strange Goodbye is brilliant! (It also had to be said)
I've seen lots of smack talk on this forum about Such a Wire. It's not a masterpiece but what about it is so bad I wonder? I like Rich's vibrato guitar sound and it seems to be about the capriciousness of a signifigant other, something a lot of people should be able to identify with. |
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Oil Boy
- FB Fan -
USA
40 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2005 : 07:56:15
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| I'm sure Frank knows it's not the "coolest" song he's ever written but I respect the sincerity & honesty of it. It's a simple, happy waltz & it makes me smile so I give it a thumbs up. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2005 : 08:17:43
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quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodJablome
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son
Violet is Frank's worst song since You're such a wire. (It had to be said)
But Strange Goodbye is brilliant! (It also had to be said)
I've seen lots of smack talk on this forum about Such a Wire. It's not a masterpiece but what about it is so bad I wonder? I like Rich's vibrato guitar sound and it seems to be about the capriciousness of a signifigant other, something a lot of people should be able to identify with.
I love Wire. My best friend and I quote it to one another. It's our thing. But it's cool if others don't like it, ditto Violet, which, for the record, I adore. I've already posted how the first time I heard "Violet" I was driving my car and I considered pulling over because it was such an emotional thing to discover what Frank had been up to.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 09/18/2005 : 09:20:40
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| Oil Boy put it best. |
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 09/20/2005 : 13:09:39
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No, Starmekitten and 10%er put it best...definitely.
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
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Suicide_Samurai
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
431 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2005 : 09:34:08
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| I find it funny that Jeans song Speedy Marie is the greatest song on the greatest album ever and the best song The Man has ever written, whilst Violet is clearly the single worst thing to ever come out of his existence. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2005 : 16:13:42
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Jean definitely got the better song, there is no arguing that
add me to the list of "Such A Wire" admirers. i think it's one of the best tracks on Pistolero |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2005 : 19:14:02
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Originally posted by floop
Jean definitely got the better song, there is no arguing that
Doesn't she have Jane, the Queen of Love going for her as well? That song rocks, but not in a Nashville studio musician kind of way. |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2005 : 02:28:44
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I consider Honeycomb a great, 'adult' album, but I can't help thinking Frank wrote 'Violet' in a hurry between two recording sessions, just to have something to dedicate to his new girlfriend. I'm certainly wrong, but that's really what comes to my mind every time I listen to it.
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"In the magnificent fierce morning of New Mexico, one sprang awake, a new part of the soul woke up suddenly and the old world gave way to the new." - D. H. Lawrence
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Nemesis
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 10/10/2005 : 12:11:01
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
633 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2005 : 06:36:07
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Violet would have been better received if it didn't make Honeycomb, but floated around the internet...as if a mystery, a ripped-out page from Mr Black's diary.
Many of us are suckers when it comes to b-sides, but also forget the brilliance of the a-sides.
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 01:39:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis
My fave line is:
Halfway between blood and the sky
... It was like the First time I ever tried Cheetos.
Yeah, me too.
It really takes an adult to write that line. For example, a 5 year old wouldn't be capable of such surreal poetry.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 01:40:49
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orange: halfway between banana and the chinese flag
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 01:44:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
I consider Honeycomb a great, 'adult' album, but I can't help thinking Frank wrote 'Violet' in a hurry between two recording sessions, just to have something to dedicate to his new girlfriend. I'm certainly wrong, but that's really what comes to my mind every time I listen to it.
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"In the magnificent fierce morning of New Mexico, one sprang awake, a new part of the soul woke up suddenly and the old world gave way to the new." - D. H. Lawrence
Adults pay bills.
Children make music.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 01:47:30
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Originally posted by Monsieur
orange: halfway between banana and the chinese flag
this is... this is ART
Denis
"You know what? You know what? You know what? Shut the fuck up!" |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2005 : 01:58:06
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Yeah, I thought about posting it in the Art section of the forum, along with a painting on which I urinated (ŕ la Warhol) after drinking Orangina Sanguine.
But I wanted Frank to see it, and I doubt he visits that section to see our lousy demo tapes ("i can't understand what his problem is, i find it hard enough dealing with my own biz" - Ring ring ring).
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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VIOLET. That song is beautiful.
