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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  09:56:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been a huge fan of the Pixies for quite some time and a big fan of FB's post-pixies material too. I currently own;

Frank Black
Teenager of the Year
Dog In the Sand
Pistolero
Frank Black Francis

I was wondering whther I should go out and buy the rest of his catholics stuff now, or wait till the boxset (any ideas when it's coming out?) otherwise recommend me what album to get next.

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black

Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  10:06:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's no telling when or if any box set is gonna come out. The only word we've heard about it are, like, two sentences from Frank himself posting to the board and a smidgen of secondhand information from a poster here who's in contact with Cooking Vinyl. It could be years for all we know. Until an actual record label makes an announcement in the press or on their website, I never assume that anything is coming out.

So if you don't want to wait for that, I'd just go in chronological order. I went in chronological order and I've turned out to be a healthy and virile young man of clear complexion and no substance abuse issues. It worked for me. It might work for you.

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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  10:09:34  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You have alot of the good stuff already (I won't bring up the Pistolero arguement). I think Honeycomb should be next on your list, with Devils Workshop or Black Letter Days coming next as I find them eqaully good, then Frank Black and the Catholics as I'm not a big fan of that record.

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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  10:10:49  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
tomorrow morning, get your ass down to your local record shop and buy whatever FB record they have that you don't. doesn't matter which one it is, they all need to be heard if you're a fan. Every record will include at least one song you'll later class as one of your faves. i promise.

what do you want to hear: catholics style or fb solo?

to be honest, we don't know much. honeycomb and Catholics self titled were voted off first and second respectively in the Survivor thingy. Know what i'm sayin'?

Edited by - fbc on 08/26/2005 10:13:33
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  21:19:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cult Of Ray. Not his best, but it has it's moments!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2005 :  21:22:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think they're all really good. I'd get Honeycomb if you want something a litte mellow :) I love that.

All of the reccomendations you're getting are good advise... there is also Show Me Your Tears :)

Maybe what you could do is put all the album names you don't have in a hat... draw them out and buy them in that order

PS welcome to the forum Frank Black


"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 08/26/2005 21:23:40
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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  08:05:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl

I think they're all really good. I'd get Honeycomb if you want something a litte mellow :) I love that.

All of the reccomendations you're getting are good advise... there is also Show Me Your Tears :)

Maybe what you could do is put all the album names you don't have in a hat... draw them out and buy them in that order

PS welcome to the forum Frank Black

"I ain't goin to be what I ain't"



Thanks, ive actually bee naround for a whiel but only registered recently

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black
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PearlJamaholic
- FB Fan -

USA
73 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  09:38:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
first post pixies album i bought was black letter days. i think its his best. its also one of my favorite albums period. but anything by frank black is good. if you find oddballs or cult of ray buy them, just cause they are hard to come by. but dont spend a fortune on them yet.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  12:55:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To echo FBC's thoughts. Any Frank is good Frank. Close your eyes and pick one.

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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1240 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  16:46:28  Show Profile  Visit therewererumours's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bollocks, I forgot COR, I really like that album, anyway, JUST BUY IT! .

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tt
- FB Fan -

70 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  18:47:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Daisy, they are all good. Was a huge Pixies fan and probably listened to Teenager everyday for 2 years after it came out. After buying Cult of Ray, I missed out on the early Catholics until Black Letter Days and Devil's Workshop. From there I believe I bought or downloaded from I-Tunes every Frank Black and the Catholics album as well as a few live concerts I found on the internet (if there are more available, please let me know although I dont know much about torrent).

Go buy them all! Now! put it in your car and turn it up! FB and the C's have the best driving music I have ever heard. I am sorry that I wasted so many years between COR and BLD listening to other garbage wishing there was something good out there or for a Pixies reunion.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2005 :  18:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm, it looks like you've got all of the key beginner albums, so for the next one, I'll have to recommend my personal favourite, Black Letter Days. Then get Devil's Workshop, Cult of Ray, Show Me Your Tears, and Honeycomb in that order.


ˇViva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2005 :  05:52:05  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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dyperman
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87 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2005 :  07:10:28  Show Profile  Click to see dyperman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
if your just staying with fbtc then cult of ray would be next...but every fan must have and listen to surfer rosa on a regular basis. Its amazing what impact that album hadf on rock and roll. most new bands wish they could construct an album half as good
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
730 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2005 :  07:28:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you need to get some Show Me Your Tears into your life.still my favourite fb record.


Art is the child of Nature; yes, her darling child, in whom we trace the features of the mother's face, her aspect and her attitude.
-Beck


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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2005 :  07:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok, thanks to everyone whos recommended me an album. i stil lremember buying TOTY and hoping it was going to be godo (my first post-pixies album) and I was jsut amazed at it's brilliance.

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black
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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/28/2005 :  09:08:32  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
let us know what you decide to get, yeah?!
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  00:11:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
F R A N K B L A C K & T H E C A T H O L I C S

(self-titled)

more like a demo, very raw, very emotional, and mighty strong

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  02:59:13  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
either Devils Workshop or Frank Black and The Catholics


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I joined the Cult of the Catholics, Oh when will they return ?
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  10:35:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

F R A N K B L A C K & T H E C A T H O L I C S

(self-titled)

more like a demo, very raw, very emotional, and mighty strong

I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band



two reelers I CANNOT agree with you more. FrankBlackandtheCatholics self-titled is and always will be my favorite. His strongest and his most definate fork-in-the-road work to date. Great album. This should be the next album for you to get frank_black_.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  14:14:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know what? It is a demo! I believe they liked it so much, they submitted it to American records, who did'nt like it, so they ended up going to Cooking Vinyl!
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  14:27:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

You know what? It is a demo! I believe they liked it so much, they submitted it to American records, who did'nt like it, so they ended up going to Cooking Vinyl!



Actually it went to spinART here in the U.S. first, but was released in Europe on the partner Cooking Vinyl label before U.S. released it. And it wasn't really considered a 'demo' until a producer at AMERICAN RECORDINGS said it was "the best sounding demo" he'd ever heard. But based on sales of Cult of Ray, AR dropped Frank. He then peddled it and spinART took interest. And hooray for that!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  14:41:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, right!
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  14:47:54  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

a producer at AMERICAN RECORDINGS said it was "the best sounding demo" he'd ever heard.

was this because it was recorded live to two track?

quote:
AR: "Yeah! Great demo, boys. I can't wait to hear the polished version."

Cs: "This is the polished version."


And my favourite Catholics record.
Heavily underrated by this forum as a whole - FB Records Survivor
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  15:12:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
And my favourite Catholics record.
Heavily underrated by this forum as a whole - FB Records Survivor



Here here!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  21:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE

quote:
Originally posted by Carl

You know what? It is a demo! I believe they liked it so much, they submitted it to American records, who did'nt like it, so they ended up going to Cooking Vinyl!



Actually it went to spinART here in the U.S. first, but was released in Europe on the partner Cooking Vinyl label before U.S. released it.


Actually, the first label to release it in Europe was Play It Again Sam. Cooking Vinyl puts it out in Europe now, presumably because the licensing agreement with Play It Again Sam expired and then Cooking Vinyl picked it up (maybe similar to the What Are Records-then-SpinART release of DOG IN THE SAND).

The first FB and THE C's album was finished by at least summer of 1997. Those of us reading sites like The Black Vault at the time were pretty frustrated at the news of a new album with no label or release date in sight, though we'd hoped that some of the attention Frank Black was attracting again due to the release of the DEATH TO THE PIXIES compilation (along with his first interviews in years where he didn't seem to avoid talking about the Pixies) would get things going. The news also made it sound like the Catholics were a new band (and not just the same band that played on THE CULT OF RAY).

FRANK BLACK & THE CATHOLICS finally came out in Europe in the Spring of 1998 (preceded by an "All My Ghosts" single a few weeks earlier) with no sign of a US release so some of us Frank fans in America had to go out hunting for import copies. A few months later, the American release on SpinART (for September or October of 1998) was announced.

Edited by - Jason on 08/30/2005 22:40:02
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =

USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2005 :  22:35:16  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You've pretty much got all you need right now, actually. But, if you want to get more, I'd suggest The Peel Sessions EP.
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king of karaoke
- FB Fan -

France
14 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  03:38:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You need CULT OF RAY . It's one of his best record. I don't understand why people don't like it.
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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  07:41:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wow, thanks to everyone who has suggested things. I have been pretty busy recently so ill have to look around to getting to tower records (irish and english people will know it) esp. for Franks stuff its so uch cheaper there. I think ill get show me your tears or devils workshop although that could change before i go to buy it but hey; every way im winner eh?

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  11:01:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_

tower records (irish and english people will know it)



Tower started in America, did'nt it?! In any case, they have outlets over there, and probably in other countries. Not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just sayin'!
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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  13:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_

tower records (irish and english people will know it)



Tower started in America, did'nt it?! In any case, they have outlets over there, and probably in other countries. Not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just sayin'!



Being honest, I didn't exactly go google it to find out or anything. I know they're in Ireland because I live there, and I know they're i n england because their stickers say "tower.co.uk" on them. But I guess your right, it was jsut an assumptian anyway

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  14:10:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank,
thanks for stopping buy. it's so cool that you post here!
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  14:18:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_

tower records (irish and english people will know it)



Tower started in America, did'nt it?! In any case, they have outlets over there, and probably in other countries. Not trying to be a smart ass, I'm just sayin'!



Tower Records started in Sacramento, California. The original one is still there next to the Tower Theater.

Virgin opened a megastore in Sacramento maybe 5 years ago even though Sacramento isn't that big of a town. The rumor was they did it to symbolically attack Tower's base. It closed down this year because it wasn't profitable.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  15:34:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember when Tower had great prices.

And Virgin Megastore jacks prices up $2 - $3 over manufacturer's suggested price. For instance, the 'SoundSaver', 'SuperSaver', and 'Niceprice' lines MSRP is $11.98...cost for these are usually between $6 - $8 based on the retail company (mom and pop stores generally pay the higher end). Virgin has the gall to charge anywhere up to $12.99 - $13.99. Sure their electric bill is higher, but come on.

Tower is creeping into that territory.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/31/2005 :  16:04:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

Frank,
thanks for stopping buy. it's so cool that you post here!



It's 'by', not 'buy'.

And he's not the real Frank. The real Frank's username is Dave Noisy.

So there. Just get your facts right, mister, I'm sick of this, now, so there.
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frank_black_
- FB Fan -

Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  08:43:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
why would the real frank want reccomendations on waht of his own albums to get...

the real frank should just have the name "frank_black", it's frnk blck isn't it? POh well, ill jsut check the king holds his court topic now...


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