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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:17:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know. I was pretty much talking out my ass. I guess I mean that the whole rock and roll movement is too huge and broad, which is not at all a bad thing, to really have any meaning to it. I still don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I mean, I know, but I don't know. I don't know...


ˇViva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/
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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:20:32  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I *think* nearly all music has meaning, it may just not mean much to you.


You begin saving the world by saving one person at a time; all else is grandiose romanticism or politics
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callahan
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149 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:25:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NimrodsSon

I don't know. I was pretty much talking out my ass. I guess I mean that the whole rock and roll movement is too huge and broad, which is not at all a bad thing, to really have any meaning to it. I still don't know what the hell I'm talking about. I mean, I know, but I don't know. I don't know...


ˇViva los Católicos! http://adrianfoster.dmusic.com/

I do sort of see what you're saying though. There doesn't seem to be any original movement. And whenever one begins to crop up it immediately get's commercialised by record labels. Big corporate labels are acting so quickly to anything they see as a possible musical movement that they kill it dead before it can develop creatively.

I passed a cow and the cow was brown. My pyjamas clung to me like a shroud! Like a shroud!

Edited by - callahan on 08/16/2005 08:26:26
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:28:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have a theory that people have the strongest response to music when they're going through big changes in their life. the biggest being, 'becoming an adult' and all that stuff. stuff you listen to during your 'coming of age' period of life (high school / college) is usually the stuff that sticks with you the most
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:30:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very true. But don't limit it to the 'coming of age' period (high school/college).
There's lots after that.


Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
There's lots after that.



true.. i think that first period is the most profound for most people. when you're becoming your own person.

most people i know have their absolute favorite band, that they think is the fucking best and that all other bands suck compared to. and usually that was the band they got into when they were like 18 or so.

which in my case is true too. it just so happens that they are the best
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callahan
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149 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  08:39:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
There's lots after that.



true.. i think that first period is the most profound for most people. when you're becoming your own person.

most people i know have their absolute favorite band, that they think is the fucking best and that all other bands suck compared to. and usually that was the band they got into when they were like 18 or so.

which in my case is true too. it just so happens that they are the best

Hmm, that would sum up me too. I've never thought about it that way. But, I'd like to think I have enough discretion to know good music no matter at what point I got into the band. For instance, alot of bands I loved around the time I was in college are still together but I think they suck now.

I passed a cow and the cow was brown. My pyjamas clung to me like a shroud! Like a shroud!
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fruitcake
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Norway
83 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:09:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello!! Look at that.. a nick cave signature! what a coincidence..;) I started liking him around highschool and I think he'll be sticking with me throughout my life. oh, and frank black is okay, too. :P (I'm missing the emoticons in here, damnnit!...)
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callahan
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149 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:15:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hiya Fruitcake! Welcome! You gotta get Honeycomb when it comes out in Norway. I think you'll like it. It's sort of Frank's Boatman's Call......sot of.

I passed a cow and the cow was brown. My pyjamas clung to me like a shroud! Like a shroud!
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fruitcake
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Norway
83 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:19:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
really?...yeah I'll check him out then..cd's are cheaper here in Trondheim, actually.. boatman's call never was my favourite though. I prefer No More Shall We Part to be honest. Hey, maybe it's out already!!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:21:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When will the forum have meaning again? ;)
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:22:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the girl i'm dating now is really into Nick Cave. we get into Nick Cave vs. Frank Black arguments.

i'm starting to like some Nick Cave and i think some of it is great. in general though he kind of licks sac, you know what i mean?
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fruitcake
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Norway
83 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:26:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

the girl i'm dating now is really into Nick Cave. we get into Nick Cave vs. Frank Black arguments.

i'm starting to like some Nick Cave and i think some of it is great. in general though he kind of licks sac, you know what i mean?


no, not really he's my number one!
and carl, sorry...I'm gifted like that (and now I found the smileys)

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That was'nt aimed at you, fruity!! (welcome, BTW!) Just a thread-title pisstake.
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fruitcake
- FB Fan -

Norway
83 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:34:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

That was'nt aimed at you, fruity!! (welcome, BTW!) Just a thread-title pisstake.



oh..well my bad then :) and thank you for the kind welcome! why aren't these darned smileys showing now,..do I have to quote to get to smile? hmm...testing

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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:36:45  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

When will the forum have meaning again?


This is a pointless post, though some of the letters are great. If you are bored of with the state of the forum, write some decent forum.

You here?! or is it "!?"

mwah!

Edited by - fbc on 08/16/2005 09:37:08
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  09:51:21  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

Should I do you a mix CD of The Futureheads then fbc?



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i feel like i'm on a slow path to recovery. but recover i will

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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  14:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now listen to The New Pornographers, Mclusky and The Delgados (although two of those have recently split up). All three are vastly underrated though.


I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  14:19:25  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When will rock and roll have a meaning again?

when homers recommends a band.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2005 :  14:58:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or three. Hehe, thanks fbc.

Are you the fellow United fan on here?


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2005 :  07:24:48  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Did rock 'n' roll, in and of itself, EVER have a meaning? I mean, it's just a style, right? All the stuff about youthful rebellion was nothing more than a clever marketing strategy, as far as I can tell.

On the other hand, plenty of individual rock songs have meaning, and there are many good bands out there. I think Floop's theory that people usually find their favorites when they're entering adulthood is true, though. Most of the bands I like a lot now are ones I got into either when I was in college, or pretty soon afterwards.

The way in which I usually find new music, outside of recommendations from other people, is by finding connections between bands. You know, stuff like common members, one band having an influence on another, and such.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/19/2005 :  10:55:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat



Did rock 'n' roll, in and of itself, EVER have a meaning?




I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.



Depends on your own personal opinion. It's down to each individual. It does to me.


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fruitcake
- FB Fan -

Norway
83 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2005 :  01:54:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
that gosling page had no music on it! well, didn't work here ... :(

must be a devil between us!
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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <

4209 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2005 :  02:38:12  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wednesday night - at about 11.

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1718 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2005 :  03:34:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apologies to the old-timers, but really, how can you talk about meaningful rock 'n' roll without mentioning this guy?



I jumped on the Frank Black Bandwagon/'Cause Pixies are so 2004
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2005 :  08:12:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jedi. That brought back a lot of great memories.


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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2005 :  08:28:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.bonaroba.net
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