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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
 Posted - 07/25/2005 : 10:26:38
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I love Honeycomb, but…
I can’t help but wonder what it would have sounded like with the Catholics….True, these session musicians are legendary and quite talented (and this is not to argue the merits of using session musicians),but I still wonder what it would have sounded like with musicians who have spent so much time with Frank Black (The Catholics), gaining a richer sense what he wants. Essentially, Scott Boutier and Dave McCaffrey have evolved with Frank over the years.
It is for this reason that I think that the Catholics should be brought back to support Honeycomb.
….it could be great.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2005 : 10:41:35
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*sniff*
Ditto
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2005 : 18:24:07
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i agree that it would've been much better with the catholics. by principle i'm against everything that is "classic", "legendary" or "cool" or whatever you wanna call it a priori and at all costs intended as knowing and playing with certain people automatically makes you a tout court genious that adds quality and class to everything (like if eric clapton would add class to nirvana).
but as they say in italy:
un uomo si deve levare i sassolini dalla scarpa...
suits me fine as long as horrible doesn't become synonymous of "for few" or for "mature" and detractors are treated as ignorant teenagers. if you get what i mean.
May the farce be with you |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2005 : 19:00:02
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I am one of those freaks of nature here that hasn't seen fb & the C's and like pretty much everyone here I would think it would be cool to see fb & the C's at some point!!!!  |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2005 : 19:05:12
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My guess is that if you'd seen FB+Cs, Daisy, you too would be chomping at the bit to have them do a Honeycomb tour.
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 07/25/2005 : 21:22:40
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Ive seen FB 4 times, once with Pixies and three times with the Catholics... they were great. I kind of hope Frank keeps coming back to them from time to time. With Franks schedule of releasing albums a year / a year and a half after the last album, with touring pretty much 365 days a year its hardly surprising that they are not together at the moment. I just hope it doesn't last too long.
This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate! |
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evilive1213
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 07/25/2005 : 22:12:04
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| I miss FB's solo shows with just he and Dave Phillips. They had a good vibe, and really created a much fuller sound than you would expect from two dudes. The first time I heard "If It Takes All Night" was when they played it at the Knitting Factory. To be completely unoriginal "IT ROCKED". I was floored and FB was pounding his guitar like a jack hammer. They seemed to get along real good too. |
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 07/26/2005 : 01:31:20
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Hey Men, don't forget that musicians have a life sometimes... They gotta move forward! You could understand that it is not very easy to live in the gigantic shadow of Frank Black (I wouldn't mind!) for such a long time. From one incarnation to another the Catholics had their time for 10 years now. WE enjoyed it. It's great to see that changes are occuring.
Don't doubt, you'll probably see them again with Frank in a way or another. After the Pixies reunion, ANYTHING can happen in this world. I'm full of Hope and Love!
To quote Marc Almond: "But just remember that the end's not always final
Cause I live forever on Cd and vinyl
So go now, for god's sake, let me be
For I created me"
Sex Dwarf!!!
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 01:46:58
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Originally posted by Daisy Girl
I am one of those freaks of nature here that hasn't seen fb & the C's and like pretty much everyone here I would think it would be cool to see fb & the C's at some point!!!!
Same here. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 02:18:00
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It would be great to see them live, and I think they'd do the Honeycomb songs justice.
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
730 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 05:35:32
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would apetion help i wonder, probably not
"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 06:12:21
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Pfff, and what about a strike???
Frank Black likes France, but it is not a reason to behave like an average French worker.
Let him be free for Christ's sake, you ask too much!!!
What about a free salad with the next Catholics album????
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
730 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 06:22:39
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my my we are in a bad mood today arent we!
"To be known as an underdog - that can only be a good thing. It's better than sucking."
- Frank Black
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 11:19:29
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Originally posted by Ziggy
It would be great to see them live, and I think they'd do the Honeycomb songs justice.
except the backing vocals
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 14:09:45
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"Honeycomb" would be a lot different with the Catholics performing. You'd get a "Show Me Your Tears" sounding album I think.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 07/26/2005 : 16:07:03
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Yo Guitar Man, what the fuck's wrong with the Catholics' back-up vocals. Put on "Changing of the Guards" and then tell me how those backup vocals could be any better!
"Changing of the Guards"
...Sixteen years, SIXTEEN YEARS....over the fields, OVER THE FIELDS,
Desperate men, DESPERARTE MEN,...Fortune calls, FORTUNE CALLS, to the marketplace, THE MARKETPLACE, my last deal gone down, MY LAST DEAL GONE DOWN,...The cold-blooded moon, THE COLD-BLOODED MOON, Sending his thoughts, SENDING HIS THOUGHTS, They shaved her head, THEY SHAVED HER HEAD, A messenger arrived, A MESSENGER ARRIVED, I stumbled to my feet, I STUMBLED TO MY FEET, Renegade priests, RENEGADE PRIESTS, The palace of mirrors, THE PALACE OF MIRRORS, The endless road, THE ENDLESS ROAD, She wakes him up, SHE WAKES HIM UP, She's begging to know, BEGGING TO KNOW,Gentlemen, he said, GENTLEMEN, HE SAID,I've shined your shoes, I'VE SHINED YOUR SHOES, But Eden is burning, EDEN IS BURNING, Peace will come, PEACE WILL COME,...
Ahhh, How soon we forget!
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Edited by - OldManInaCoffeeCan on 07/26/2005 16:33:56 |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 03:53:36
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 05:02:34
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Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
Yo Guitar Man, what the fuck's wrong with the Catholics' back-up vocals.
give some time to track down the, er, tracks and i'll tell ya. weak!
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *
1079 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 05:22:54
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... I gotta move...
Any comment
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 05:43:31
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Sincerely, I like and respect the Catholics but neither Dave P. nor Rich G. managed to make me forget the terrific solos on TOTY (aaah Fazer Eyes...) and COR.
In other words, I'd like to see / hear Lyle Workman play with FB again. And I humbly think it's more likely to happen soon than a Catholics reunion or even a new Pixies album. After all Lyle has been part of the King's entourage since 1993... Oh, and doesn't he play on 'The Sicilian' by the way?
Join the Cult of France / And get Honeycomb weeks in advance |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 06:27:36
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Yeah, the Catholics aren't bad at the back up harmonies, they just don't do it a whole lot. They're always right on, but the level's just mixed low. It's just something that Frank hasn't utilized a lot since TOTY. I do miss all the great harmony of the TOTY days.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:06:22
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Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
Sincerely, I like and respect the Catholics but neither Dave P. nor Rich G. managed to make me forget the terrific solos on TOTY (aaah Fazer Eyes...) and COR.
In other words, I'd like to see / hear Lyle Workman play with FB again. And I humbly think it's more likely to happen soon than a Catholics reunion or even a new Pixies album. After all Lyle has been part of the King's entourage since 1993... Oh, and doesn't he play on 'The Sicilian' by the way?
Join the Cult of France / And get Honeycomb weeks in advance
Yeah FITS, I believe you're right about Lyle remaining with The King while the Catholics have been ex-communicated and sent into exile: "After all Lyle has been part of the King's entourage since 1993..."
I'm not sure if he plays on it, but Sir Jon and/or The King have given him credit for writing all the charts for Honeycomb and The Sicilian.
JJJJC, my comment on the backup vocals on "I Gotta Move" is that they are pitch-perfect in my opinion, the volumn's up enough, and it compliments the lead vocals nicely.
Calistanian, I agree, about the mixing levels and Frank not utilizing backup vocals since TOTY. Personally, I don't miss TOTY as much as I'm gonna miss the Catholics. I prefer any of the FB&TheC's records over TOTY.
fbc, you've got exactly 24 hours from the time of your post requesting more time.
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Edited by - OldManInaCoffeeCan on 07/27/2005 07:10:12 |
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:15:17
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Funny, today I thought it was about time to listen to some other Frank than HC for a change and put TOTY on. It blew me away. Like always.
What a powerfull, rocking record!
I didn´t pay attention to the backgroundvocals though... |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:37:21
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Well, pay attention next time...
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:52:35
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Originally posted by fbc
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Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
Yo Guitar Man, what the fuck's wrong with the Catholics' back-up vocals.
give some time to track down the, er, tracks and i'll tell ya. weak!
McDave meowing on Western Star? C'mon! Get with the program!
Sometimes, no matter how shitty things get, you have to just do a little dance. - Frank
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kelladwella
= Cult of Ray =
Germany
729 Posts |
Posted - 07/27/2005 : 07:57:14
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Originally posted by The Calistanian
Well, pay attention next time...
Will do. |
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/27/2005 : 09:26:51
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Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
fbc, you've got exactly 24 hours from the time of your post requesting more time.
alrighty then.
not retracting my original statement, but my backing vocal remark was in reference to the Catholics playing Honeycomb. They wouldn't even come close to matching the guys on HC.
Surley you hear the "I don't know if her sister will" and the "oohs" over "Mom is a gypsy..."
No one can sing like the cats, not even the beloved back up band we call the Catholics.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 01:22:47
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Originally posted by fbc
quote:
Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
Yo Guitar Man, what the fuck's wrong with the Catholics' back-up vocals.
give some time to track down the, er, tracks and i'll tell ya. weak!
Oldman, check this out!
http://s55.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=27T8FUDS76EYY3DHT0RODLY5VC
I couldn't help but laugh when I heard this.
The song itself is great but the singing, well, lets just say it's one of McDaves finest moments.
 finally through the roof, my friend!
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 02:06:27
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/31/2005 : 02:32:59
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With a smile, in jest and no malice, I'd say "weak!".
I had to find a top example to support my case against the Catholics backing vocals, you see.
Oldman knows how to fight his corner, and he does it with the best of them.
I had to pull something out the bag or he'd just tear me apart with his legal jargon and loopholes.
I'm hoping the evidence I provided above will leave him in no doubt I am right, he is wrong. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 07:55:47
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IN THE COURT OF FRANKBLACK.NET
Case No. 666
fbc, also known as,
frank black conspiracy,
PLAINTIFF,
vs.
David McCaffrey, Scott
Boutier, Rich Gilbert, and
Dave Phillips, individually
and playing music as
The Catholics
DEFENDANTS.
ORDER OF DISMISSAL
This cause came before this Honorable Court on the 31st day of October 2005 upon Plaintiff’s late-filed response, Defendants’ objection thereto, and upon the entire record.
This Honorable Court finds that Defendants’ objection based on Plaintiff’s response being filed three months, three days late is well-taken. This Honorable Court finds there is no need to examine Plaintiff’s response because it was filed three months, three days late. Due to Plaintiff’s neglect and obvious lack of respect for this Honorable Court’s filing deadlines, this Honorable Court shall dismiss this case based upon said procedural defect in Plaintiff’s cause and this Honorable Court finds therefore there is no need to decide this case on the merits.
IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED, ADJUDGED and DECREED that Plaintiff’s complaint and case against Defendants shall be and hereby is dismissed with prejudice, not to be filed on the same grounds again.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, ADJUDGED, and DECREED that the court costs and Defendant’s reasonable attorney fees shall be and hereby are taxed against Plaintiff, for all of which execution may issue if necessary.
ENTERED this 31st day of October 2005.
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The Honorable JUSTICE FOR ALL
Certificate of Notice
Notice of the foregoing Order of Dismissal was posted at frankblack.net this 31st day of October 2005.
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"I'm more of a self-indulgent epic kind of guy." King Charles IV
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 08:05:15
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OBJECTION!!!
(seeking more evidence and a legal mind. you haven't heard the last of this) |
Edited by - fbc on 10/31/2005 08:07:51 |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 08:08:47
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BAILIFF, CLEAR THE COURTROOM, NEXT CASE.
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"I'm more of a self-indulgent epic kind of guy." King Charles IV
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2005 : 08:26:40
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[*in somewhat of a panic*] "Thank goodness for technicalities and loopholes, but damn it, this guy is not going away. Get the Secret Police to follow him, see if they can get something to blackmail him with.
Don’t forget, with Justice the End always justifies the Means."
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HC tour with Catholics: Please!
