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scruvs
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Posted - 07/10/2005 :  14:24:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I seem to always discover music late, sometimes decades late. I only recently discovered their music. I think it rocks. I picked up Automatic, Stoned and Dethroned, and their B-sides because those were the CDs that were used at my record store. I'll probably pick up the rest of their records.


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 07/10/2005 :  15:27:14  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Their last albums are great, especially 'Stoned and Dethroned' (which doesn't sound like the others at all).


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scruvs
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Posted - 07/10/2005 :  15:43:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like stoned and dethroned the best so far too.

I was going to pick up psychocandy and darklands next, but maybe I'll get honey's dead and sound of speed and maybe munki first. I think right now I enjoy the softer tracks more.


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Mass Pleeze
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USA
153 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  00:59:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're completely, hopelessly awesome. Lots of variety and different versions on limewire.

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
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Posted - 07/11/2005 :  03:22:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
psychocandy and honey's dead are the only ones in my collection... but they are a great band... saw em ... i think lolla 92?? fab.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  03:25:47  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have Psychocandy, but the few times I've listened to it, it's genuinely given me a headache. I can see the appeal of the band, but I've just never been able to get into it.
Although I haven't heard anything much later than Psychocandy, I wonder if perhaps I'd enjoy that more - I like Head On and April Skies, I don't know if thats representative.


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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  03:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
psychocandy is funny, but i agree, you can't listen more than once. try their later stuff.

i think the great thing about the JAMC is their simplicity. i don't know much of music, but i guess 85 % of their tunes are built around the same 2 chords. and still most of it sounds diverse.
i like stoned&dethroned and honey's dead most, i guess. IMHO, mood and lyrics were alyways exactly on the fine line between being absolutely ridicoluos & really sad&depressing. take "darklands": "i'm going to dark, to talk in rhyme with my chaotic soul / as sure as life means nothing and all things end in nothing and heaven i think is too close to hell"...and so on. isn't it super-kitsch ?
their last album "munky" was somehow crappy. william was still the self-proclaimed loner, not very convincing very predictable after all those years, and jim got into simple&mich more boring "entertaining" fun-rock'n'roll. their trip-hop-experiments were pretty much out of context too.

but however, they deserve respect for what they did and that they finally split.

martha, what do you think ?


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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  04:26:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah Michael, I think you summed it up pretty well. Most of their tunes seem to be arranged around two chords or so, however, they rarley ever sound that simple or repetitive. I also agree that "Munki" isn't on par with their prior efforts, however, it is a fairly long album (16 tracks or so?) so there still are some gems in there. Scruvs, I'd say it's a safe bet to go with "Honeys Dead" and "Sound of Speed" next. Maybe save "Munki" until you've exhausted all the others.

By the way TR, I've been able to download four Souled American tunes. I've heard "Notes Campfire", "This Old House", "Make me Laugh, Make me Cry", and the instrumental "Not Over". I really, really dig everything so far and would like to buy "Fe", but I'm having a hard time trying to find it online. Any suggestions? I've read they don't play a whole lot of gigs anymore, but will play occasionally in Chicago, which is fairly close to where I live. I'd love to see 'em live.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  06:20:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
May I take a moment to praise Psychocandy? I can understand why you guys say one listen is enough but I like it, especially "Taste of Cindy."
To each his own, I guess.

"Knife to my head when she talks so sweetly
Knife in my head when I think of Cindy
Knife in my head is the taste of Cindy"


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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  06:23:03  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just recently got into J&MC as well
I picked up Stoned & Dethroned a couple of years ago, it's on the mellower side but I definitely dig it.
I just recently got Sound Of Speed because my favorite Jesus & Mary Chain song to date (Snakedriver) is the 1st track on there.
"I've got syphilitic hetero friends in every part of town"
"The photographs of god I bought have almost fade away"
GREAT lyrics...

I'm a big fan of their noisier guitar sounds...plus the layering of acoustic with noise/psychedelic guitar meshed together. It just sounds great.

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Mass Pleeze
- FB Fan -

USA
153 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  08:48:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try Bullet Lovers from Stoned and Dethroned.

Good acoustic guitar.

They have a very good cover of Vegetable Man; Catchfire, Honey's Dead are among my favourites.

Love the psychedelic guitars, reverberations and understated mix.

Did you find the prepositional flaw Mr. Grieves?

Edited by - Mass Pleeze on 07/11/2005 22:25:51
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  10:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I only have their singles collection but it's very good. The Raveonettes completely ripped them off on their debut full album, 'Chain Gang Of Love', but in a good way. If you like J&TMC then you will no doubt like that album too.


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scruvs
= Cult of Ray =

353 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  12:43:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks for the suggestions and descriptions. I can't wait to listen to more of their records.


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Mass Pleeze
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USA
153 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2005 :  21:53:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://aprilskies.amniisia.com/music/lyrics.php?sub=automatic#coast_to_coast

You probably already found the april skies web site.

Coast to Coast, Bullet Lovers and Never Saw It Coming are my favourite songs from Stoned & Dethroned.

They perform a great cover of "New Kind of Kicks" by the Cramps. I think it is an unreleased track but available on live wire. Worth a listen.



Ever attend a snakedrive Mr. Grieves?

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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
503 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2005 :  03:03:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
their debut was and is fantastic, however they became a parody of themselves, the vocals grate and they ended up trying too hard.

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Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?”
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  01:04:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by martha_promise

By the way TR, I've been able to download four Souled American tunes. I've heard "Notes Campfire", "This Old House", "Make me Laugh, Make me Cry", and the instrumental "Not Over". I really, really dig everything so far and would like to buy "Fe", but I'm having a hard time trying to find it online. Any suggestions? I've read they don't play a whole lot of gigs anymore, but will play occasionally in Chicago, which is fairly close to where I live. I'd love to see 'em live.

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great to hear you enjoy souled american ! the tunes you have are pretty cool, especially "make me laugh, make me cry", me thinks.
i guess it will be hard to get a CD.i have "Fe", "Flubber", "Frozen" on vinyl. i could make you very oldfashioned tapes and send it via mail, if you like. would be my very pleasure.
lucky guy, if you really catch them live.

this week i will try to get stan ridgeway, together with honeycomb and the the latest leonhard cohen.


regarding JAMC: time to resurrect this one ! people, vote !

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9172

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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  07:42:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oh, and martha, look at this thread, concerning souled american:

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12515

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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  09:06:06  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by two reelers

regarding JAMC: time to resurrect this one ! people, vote !

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9172




I can't believe Stoned and Dethroned was voted out so quickly. You guys don't know what you're doin'.




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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
1036 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2005 :  09:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my word...


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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2005 :  09:05:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Psychocandy' is excellent. The kind of record that would enjoy a psycho killer.


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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
4233 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  01:39:50  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
psychocandy and darklands forever


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someguycalledjames
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United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2005 :  19:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Automatic was good at the time - but sounds hideously dated
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2005 :  18:56:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Psychocandy is catchy pop! Turn it up!
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IceCream
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USA
1850 Posts

Posted - 07/26/2005 :  08:12:18  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
DruggedBunny, glad you're still here. Didn't you write the first reply in the first thread ever created in this forum?
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IceCream
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USA
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Posted - 07/26/2005 :  08:14:47  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, wait, this is supposed to be about Jesus and Mary Chain. I heard a song at the end credits of the movie LOST IN TRANSLATION. It had reverbed drums unlike anything I had ever heard before; the production was so original. I thought it was Kevin Shields at the time, but my brother later told me it was the Jesus and Mary Chain. Great song.
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 07/26/2005 :  12:18:17  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

Oh, wait, this is supposed to be about Jesus and Mary Chain. I heard a song at the end credits of the movie LOST IN TRANSLATION. It had reverbed drums unlike anything I had ever heard before; the production was so original. I thought it was Kevin Shields at the time, but my brother later told me it was the Jesus and Mary Chain. Great song.



'Just Like Honey'. I don't like it that much, but I must say it was a perfect choice to close the movie.


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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
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Posted - 07/27/2005 :  00:01:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
'Just like honey' is almost perfect in its bizarre way.


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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2006 :  03:20:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream

Oh, wait, this is supposed to be about Jesus and Mary Chain. I heard a song at the end credits of the movie LOST IN TRANSLATION. It had reverbed drums unlike anything I had ever heard before; the production was so original. I thought it was Kevin Shields at the time, but my brother later told me it was the Jesus and Mary Chain. Great song.


yeah, just saw the film again, great song

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/30/2006 :  04:45:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whenever I think of that song, I think of that film, and vica versa.


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 11/30/2006 :  05:08:40  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think Just Like Honey sounds like the majority of songs on Psychocandy, which creates continuity if nothing else. I like it. So many bands have ripped off that drum pattern and sound, JAMC's overall sound, image, you name it.


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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =

Wallis and Futuna Islands
783 Posts

Posted - 11/30/2006 :  06:28:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
when I first heard the beginning I thought it was going to be some rip-off of Be My Baby by the Ronettes

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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =

USA
285 Posts

Posted - 12/05/2006 :  10:15:38  Show Profile  Visit darkoutsider's Homepage  Click to see darkoutsider's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
My personal fav by JAMC is Honey's Dead. Pick that sucker up. It tends to be hard to find, at least when I went hunting for it. They seem to be getting popular now so it may be easier.

Pick it up, it's an amazing album. Very very very good.

P.S. Their covers of Surfin' USA and Tower of Song are brilliant.

~*The first one's always free.*~

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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
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Posted - 12/07/2006 :  02:43:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not to forget "upside down", their first song that made it to the radio. no matter how often i hear it, it is still so original & refreshing.


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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2006 :  05:02:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Someone here attended a show in the early 80s?


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  08:12:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.morphizm.com/blog/2007/02/jesus-and-mary-chain-cometh.html

Wednesday, February 21, 2007

The Jesus and Mary Chain Cometh!

Good news for audiophiles and any music fans with a sense of history: The Jesus and Mary Chain have booked their first dates in almost a decade. While this may not energize as many as it should, it really should. This band helped create so many sounds that it isn't funny; everyone from My Bloody Valentine and Mogwai to the Pixies and Interpol owes them something. Better yet, Morphizm's pals at Charm School scored us a shorty with Jesus honcho Jim Reid about the whole deal. Read it and smile:

1. Why are you doing the show now?
"Well, I would say 'Why not?' There are many reasons really. Firstly it's taken this long for me and William to get to a point where it would be realistic to do it, and to some degree each of us assumed the other wouldn't be interested, and it was only after we talked about it that we realised this. Also Coachella were very persistent."

2. The last show was in 1998?
"Yes, the last Mary Chain gig was in 1998 and was such a bloody awful mess, too much drink, too many drugs, nobody seeing eye to eye on anything and the band just blew up, and I suppose you could say this is another good reason for our reformation, cause that was no way for the Mary Chain to end."

3. William lives in LA and you live in Devon?
"You can imagine the problems this presents."

4. Who else is in the band?
"On bass it's Phil King, on drums it's Loz Colbert, and on second guitar is Mark Crozer, and of course myself and William."

5. Will there be more shows and an album?
"I really don't know. Maybe. I think we would like to and we're looking at another show or two."

6. Are William and yourself working on solo albums?
"Yes, both are at the recording stage at the moment, and both will hopefully be out later in the year."

Can you say, product placement? It's a different time indeed. The '80s and '90s were halcyon days compared to ours, but then again I was saying the same thing about the '60s and '70s in the '80s and '90s, so the more things change the more they remain the same. Either way, the world is better with Jesus and Mary in it. For more info on the new developments and tour, check out the band's official site.

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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
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Posted - 02/22/2007 :  09:15:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jesus !

is there anybody left those days who ain't reuniting ?


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