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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  05:21:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just a question a friend who's in Central London just now posed. Which ones seem the most competent in gathering news and presenting it? Are any more susceptible to censorship than others?

Do they have political agendas which come through in their presentation of the news?

In your opinion, which are the best, and which are the worst? I guess this refers to both internet sites and TV/radio news.

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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  05:28:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
cnn


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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  05:33:32  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
BBC for everything.


How's that for a slice of fried gold?
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  05:39:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BBC radio for me in America.

Since cable TV came along with up-to-the-minute info, newspapers have been scrambling to stay relevant, and most have chucked their ethics and commitment to accuracy and facts.


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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:00:13  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
BBC always

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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:04:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
fb.net
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:06:03  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
bbc

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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:08:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I forgot to say, for me it's the BBC too. When there was all the kerfuffle about Andrew Gilligan, Dr David Kelly and whether the BBC were politically motivated in attacking the government, I always felt the BBC were telling the truth.
My wife, however, accused me of being naive (which I may be) and blinded by the BBC's reputation.

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Edited by - Llamadance on 07/07/2005 06:08:41
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  06:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.bbcwatch.com/
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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:54:41  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just to echo the BBC again.

erebus, not sure this is the time for that.

Edited by - starmekitten on 07/07/2005 09:55:41
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Mass Pleeze
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USA
153 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:59:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They all have an agenda. It's all gray to me.

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Can you Mr. Grieves?
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  09:59:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Weekly World News.

It's only $2.99 a week and MUCH more entertaining.

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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
2674 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:01:47  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Is this a first? Iīm with Erebus on the BBC thing, everyone thinks itīs news and itīs just the entertainment wing of the security services. Itīs quite obvious from the sanitised versions of the Gulf massacres they showed as to exactly where they stand.

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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:03:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

Just to echo the BBC again.

erebus, not sure this is the time for that.

Let me check with the BBC. Yes, you're right, they say it will never be the time for holding them to any standard whatsoever.
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fox, of course. I mean, c'mon, people. They're fair AND balanced.

Let 'em riot. We're Sonic-fuckin'-Death Monkey.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:09:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TarTar

Fox, of course. I mean, c'mon, people. They're fair AND balanced.

Let 'em riot. We're Sonic-fuckin'-Death Monkey.



I am guessing that your statement was tongue in cheek, TT. But it brings up an important point regarding journalism today:

Balance does not belong in news reporting. Journalism should not be about giving both sides a chance to broadcast their bias; it's about reporting the truth.


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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
633 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  12:18:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So many people confident in the BBC... a little nerve-wracking.

You've got foxnews, msnbc, CNN, BBC, coworkers, talkshow hosts, the Internet, etc. Most people don't get their information from one source (some do suppose the majority of the US does in order to make their point ring more true), but conciously/subconciously collect from several of these and others not listed.

I can't name my favorite source, but I tend to reach conclusions after my exposure of Foxnews, NPR, and the internet.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  12:41:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No one has mentioned newspapers.


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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  12:52:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote
Balance does not belong in news reporting. Journalism should not be about giving both sides a chance to broadcast their bias; it's about reporting the truth.
[/quote]

Unfortunately though the truth is sometimes hidden, or at the least veiled. It becomes a battle of opinions and depends on where opposing sides are sitting. In that case the onus is on the journalist to try and give a balanced article comprising both sides. I guess editorials should be for which side of the fence an establishment comes down on.

Newspapers I feel are inherently biased, and much more so than any of the aforementioned news organisations. They have to be to sell newspapers, they have much more competition (I think). An opinion or stance will appeal to many, many people.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:03:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Llamadance
Unfortunately though the truth is sometimes hidden, or at the least veiled. It becomes a battle of opinions and depends on where opposing sides are sitting. In that case the onus is on the journalist to try and give a balanced article comprising both sides.



That was the point I tried to make -- that journalists working for dailies are scrambling
to beat TV and they end up regurgitating biased opinions instead of taking the time to investigate what is beneath the surface. You're supposed to ferret out facts and report them, not be a mouthpiece for one extreme faction and its opposing group.


quote:

Newspapers I feel are inherently biased, and much more so than any of the aforementioned news organisations. They have to be to sell newspapers,


No editor sits in a newsroom wondering, "Hm. What do I have to do to sell more papers?" That's a cliche misconception.



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MissMaceo
= Cult of Ray =

USA
388 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:17:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
bbc news
and google news



Those who find themselves ridiculous, sit down next to me.
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:23:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

No one has mentioned newspapers.


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TRANSMARINE
= Cult of Ray =



USA
731 Posts
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 09:59:54
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Weekly World News.

It's only $2.99 a week and MUCH more entertaining.

I was alone...in my BIG BED

-bRIAN
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Kathryn...WWN is a newspaper! It's the best one in the whole wide world! I just bought the current issue at the grocery store. The front page story claims that apparantley they found Noah's 2nd ark in the Faroe Islands and it held unicorns, centaurs, dragons, and winged lions!

I was alone...in my BIG BED

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:24:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And it pays really well, too. It's a good place to work. And a great paper to read, I agree!


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someguycalledjames
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United Kingdom
109 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:48:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BBC

just to add my tuppence worth
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:50:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I gather from various sources. I don't trust anyone to be perfectly honest with you.


Don't believe the type!
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:50:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Newspapers I feel are inherently biased, and much more so than any of the aforementioned news organisations. They have to be to sell newspapers,


quote:
No editor sits in a newsroom wondering, "Hm. What do I have to do to sell more papers?" That's a cliche misconception.



But isn't an editor responsible for the content of the newspaper and consequently its circulation? If the sales of a newspaper went down, wouldn't the editor get it in the neck, and have to think about the newspapers direction?

If I'm wrong, who's responsible for these areas?

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Edited by - Llamadance on 07/07/2005 13:51:55
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2005 :  13:15:35  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I don't really pay as much attention to the news as I should. I think I get most of my information from other people, and sometimes the Internet or local news radio.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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