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edisnotdead
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  11:45:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I PERSONALLY FEEL THIS IS THE BEST PIXIES ALBUM AND HAS A BUNCH OF THEIR BEST SONGS. ALL OVER THE WORLD AND THE HAPPENING ARE MY FAVORITES. EVERYTHING I READ OR SEE ON THE PIXIES CITES THIS AS THE POINT WHERE THINGS STARTS TO GO DOWN. I THINK ITS THEIR FINEST HOUR. WHO'S WITH ME?

TRANSMARINE
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USA
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  11:59:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bossonova is great. But this thread is in the wrong area.

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BLT
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South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  12:11:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think your caps lock is broken, dude.
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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  12:34:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And I think that people do love Bossanova.


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sombrero11
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USA
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  13:26:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bossanova marked the beginning of the end for the band. You can tell Frank and Kim weren't getting along. Kim didn't sing lead on any songs and her background vocals are buried deep in the mix. By Trompe you can't even tell she was in the band anymore... That is the only reason I was ever down on Bossanova. The songs are great.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  13:39:54  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i try not to look at it as a competition, which is the best and all that.
personally, each album has tracks i absolutely adore and others i think are just period brilliant

but i agree it's one of their finest hours, oh yeah. havalina baby. b-eau-ti-ful
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ccuadros
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Chile
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  14:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

i try not to look at it as a competition, which is the best and all that.
personally, each album has tracks i absolutely adore and others i think are just period brilliant

but i agree it's one of their finest hours, oh yeah. havalina baby. b-eau-ti-ful



Yeap! I'm agree, for me it's the best pixies album
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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  14:27:16  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It's one of the most intelligent popalbums
just like pet sounds was an intelligent poprecord.
Good production, lovely song writing

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The Holiday Son
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France
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  14:43:14  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm with you about Bossanova (but please do something about that broken caps lock !)
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  14:49:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't know people dislike it. It was the first Pixies record I bought the same week of release and I've always thought it was a damned good album.
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ElevatorLady
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  16:52:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bossa is great, but I prefer the other albums better. Doesn't mean I don't like it, God no.
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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  16:58:47  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Problem is, asking here, there's bound to people springing to the album's defence straight away. Technically speaking, if you're talking critical acclaim or influence, then maybe it's not their high point.
I'm not so sure nowadays, but when I bought Bossanova, it was definitely my favourite album. But, it's not typical Pixies really, so people tend to focus on the other albums.


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The New Bolero
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394 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2005 :  19:10:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

I didn't know people dislike it. It was the first Pixies record I bought the same week of release and I've always thought it was a damned good album.



Me too. Bought it the day it came out in 1990. And I think it was a case of a lot of people looking for Doolittle 2 who were turned off by the album. People with preconceived visions of what the Doolittle follow up ought to have sounded like were the ones who called it the beginning of the end. I remember Spin giving it a great review at the time and listing it on their year end ten best albums list so it wasn't completely panned upon its initial release.
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Levitated
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Chile
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  20:14:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate that guy in the pixies documentary that says that bossanova is not a record to like for pixies hard-core fans...fuck no!!! I'm a pixies hard-core fan and bossanova is my fave album!!!
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Carl
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  20:19:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's great, but it dos'nt have that raw kick to it.
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freakin phreak
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Posted - 06/10/2005 :  21:32:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i dont like bossanova because its so much quieter than the other albums. franks voice seems so far away and quiet, i cant stand that. the songs i think are just weaker than the rest of the albums, and they butchered some early classics like "down to the well" and "is she wierd." i still prefer the bbc versions of those songs. but yeah, havalina is beautiful, and dig for fire, velouria, rock music, and allison are the only good songs on there.

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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/11/2005 :  02:34:35  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
weaker songs?
Don't know
I would say that it's the record the pixies (or maybe just Frank)
reinvents themselves.
The noisyness, the one string bending, the spanish lyrics, the rawness, they had done that all before. You gotta keep moving you know. I would dare to say that there is no filler on Bossanova.

In terms of brilliant pop music I think Bossanova is the best. Finally a band that takes the surfguitar and brings it in a space that's totally new (for surf music).

God, I should write an essay about it and save the legacy of this record.



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Carl
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  09:04:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, it's definetly got an ethereal beauty, and there is some crazy noisy stuff going on. It just dos'nt have the same brutal wackiness of the earlier stuff. Maybe the album covers have influenced me, somehow, weak minded fool that I am!! (It has to be said, the covers are so perfect for those albums.
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the_o
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  16:06:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i personally hold the belief that Bossanova and Trompe are by far their best albums the others are good too just not as good
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the_o
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  16:07:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lets just hope they think the same and play more and more from Bossanova and Trompe
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Black_francis_
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  05:40:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i find it impossible to rank their albums to be honest, i love them all for different reasons. bossanova is their most interesting album and for the pixies that means its reeeeaally interesting!! and it has velouria on it of course.
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two reelers
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Austria
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  07:44:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think "all over the world" is the only song which is somehow crappy. it is totally overproduced and that long outro... i liked it once, but now i think it really stains the album. the lyrics are going nowhere. it would be cool without that long ending.

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JustJeff
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  11:23:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a friend who would pull that "Bossanova and Trompe Le Monde don't do it for me, I'm only into Surferosa and Doolittle" crap.
He would actually turn up his nose when I played Bossanova.
I feel sad for him because I continued to be amazed by and recieve enjoyment from Bossanova and Trompe le monde whereas he had to find a new band to admire and live a life of whiny hip-ocity.

To answer the question, it's because people often relate Surfer or Doolittle to a certain time in their lives of which those songs were part of the soundtrack. The departure from that early sound signifies a change in the artists' lives that may or may not have reflected a change in the listeners lives. Plus, people often feel the need for something that places them above others, usually judgement. I do it myself; every time someone mentions Maroon 5.
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ccuadros
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Chile
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  11:39:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Thing (the end of all over the world) it's excellent man...for me it's the best part of the song

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number 13
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286 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2005 :  15:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

The Thing (the end of all over the world) it's excellent man...for me it's the best part of the song

Salu2



Ouch!

The Thing is the alternate ending of The Happening and not from All Over The World!

Bossanova is cooler and relaxed than Surfer or Doolittle, that's a fact and maybe why it's less appreciated by some fans.

For my part, I was really into Bossa and now, I'm more in Trompe for years because it's a high degree of achievment (songwriting, mixing, production... every aspect).

I love the others but I largely prefer the last ones.
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Daisy Girl
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Belize
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  17:08:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well assuming that he made the pre show soundtrack like FB does... Malkmus likes Bossa as he played Velouria in that pre show thingy.

Also my radio station played it on my way home.

And I like it, too.
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Alex_Heart_Kim
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  17:13:37  Show Profile  Visit Alex_Heart_Kim's Homepage  Reply with Quote
for me all pixies albums have tracks that i heart. its just there more on doolittle, surfer, and pilgrim that i heart than there are on bossanova or tromp.

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ccuadros
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Chile
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Posted - 06/13/2005 :  18:11:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ups!!!!! my mind it's in pluto..... you're right I apologize...

it's monday!!

quote:
Originally posted by number 13

quote:
Originally posted by ccuadros

The Thing (the end of all over the world) it's excellent man...for me it's the best part of the song

Salu2



Ouch!

The Thing is the alternate ending of The Happening and not from All Over The World!

Bossanova is cooler and relaxed than Surfer or Doolittle, that's a fact and maybe why it's less appreciated by some fans.

For my part, I was really into Bossa and now, I'm more in Trompe for years because it's a high degree of achievment (songwriting, mixing, production... every aspect).

I love the others but I largely prefer the last ones.

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Carl
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  09:35:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by the_o

i personally hold the belief that Bossanova and Trompe are by far their best albums the others are good too just not as good



Easy,easy....
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stymie
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  13:23:00  Show Profile  Visit stymie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My favorite album!
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ijdnwtdwm
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Chile
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  16:18:28  Show Profile  Click to see ijdnwtdwm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i read somewhere that bossanova it's a record where the pixies mix 70's punk music and the beach boys
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freakin phreak
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Posted - 06/14/2005 :  18:31:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i dont hear the 70's punk. i can hear it more in surfer rosa than bossanova.

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funtime_frank
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  12:30:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i love Bos, it and trompe are very underated albums outside of hardcore Pixies fans. I agree that all over the world is probably the worst song on it but I still like it. Again, like someone else said, I find it too hard to rank them because they are so differnt and my favourite changes with every lesson tbh.

It's [still] educational!
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Carl
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Ireland
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Posted - 06/15/2005 :  18:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FB said they used to call Is She Weird? is she dave?, because they thought it sounded so Bowie!
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Ziggy
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  02:06:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha.

I love Bossanova. Genuinely beautiful music, with a real kick.

Edited by - Ziggy on 06/16/2005 02:08:49
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Jamski
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Poland
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  04:08:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my opinion Tha Bossanova is more POP album.But some tracks like Rock music - hard sound song , or Hang wire are relly "dirty".
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