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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  04:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
June 2, 2005 Rolling Stone, Smoking Section:

Pixies singer Frank Black ... has a handsome son named Jack, and Frank was bouncing the four-month-old tyke on his knee while he delivered this bit of news to the Smoking Section: For the Pixies' summer tour, he was thinking of playing two sets a night, one featuring a handful of deep old cuts. "The promoter [in Portland, Oregon] made all these posters - EARLY SHOW: B SIDES AND RARITIES!" says Black. "So now I'm roped into it. I'm sitting around listeing to our B sides going, 'Man, these songs suck!' " No word on the plan for other cities on the tour, but what doesn't suck is Black's upcoming solo album, Honeycomb, cut with legends like Stax guitarist Steve Cropper and Muscle Shoals bassist David Hood. "I want to tour with those guys," says Black. "But I'm competing for players with Booker T. and MG's and Neil Young."


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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  05:00:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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The Holiday Son
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France
2009 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2005 :  05:15:01  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Man's gone crazy!!
Santo, Manta Ray, Weird at my School... Gems!
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  06:52:55  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
he's just being modest, although there's no reason being modest about these songs


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number 13
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  07:38:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These songs belong to his past, he prefers the new album to promote that reflects his state of mind... The B-Sides of the Pixies are really appreciate and even Mojo Magazine wrote that Into The White was one of the best B-Side ever, many others said that their B-Sides were A Sides for any other groups... So the Man is indeed modest.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  09:30:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm just glad that some of these songs are getting an outing. Wonderful stuff.
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =

Sweden
308 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2005 :  11:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah, I hop you're all right about him being modest, but then again he called such a masterpiece as 'Manta Ray' a 'not so classic quickie', so I don't know what to think. Love the b-sides, though.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  11:58:59  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i doubt he's being modest. some of these songs were probably written in minutes compared to others.
definately not as complex as others (chord structuring and all that)
it's us who hold them dear to our hearts. and there's a reason why they're b-sides.

"No matter how shitty things get, you just have to do a little dance."
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
607 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2005 :  12:47:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for posting this!

I gotta say, I was glad that the early show we went to wasn't just B-sides and rarities. I was thrilled he played a few, but adding the classics just made it more of a full meal. To play just the B-sides to me....would have been like eating an appetizer for dinner. If I had to guess.... I think the idea was to get people to buy both sets. Totally money hungry promoters, but Frank just isn't like that. Why would he play a teaser show just to get you to go to the late show and spend more money? He cares about the music too much to make such set decisions based on profit.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  15:47:37  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Frank wrote the liner notes of Complete B-sides himself
he must have listened to those songs at that moment
I can't imagine he would think they suck
they rule

Theme from Narc

damn! the best instrumental ever?
(it's a cover but still)

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  16:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At the first Portland show I just knew they were gonna open with Boom Chicka Boom. How cool would that have been? But no boom, and no Santo. Had lots of fun but I wanted the boom.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  17:40:10  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Boom Chicka Boom. How cool would that have been?


That would have been amazing. I was thinking about 'Born In Chicago' as an opener. If only we could write the setlists, i'd be in Pixie heaven for one night.

"No matter how shitty things get, you just have to do a little dance."
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  18:18:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

I was thinking about 'Born In Chicago' as an opener.




Now there's an idea!


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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  21:03:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We at least know that he likes "Dancing the Manta Ray". He played that with the Catholics and, in recent years, played it solo. He's got good taste. I think that's the best Pixies b-side.

If there's a live (in concert) disc in the Catholics box set, "Danncing the Manta Ray" needs to be on it. I have a Catholics version of that on MP3 that is a total rock monster.
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  21:27:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yea "Dancing the Manta Ray" thats THE ONE. not the only one, but Damn it's just so good.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2005 :  22:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it really sounded great live...the crowd was really into it.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
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Posted - 06/06/2005 :  22:13:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

i doubt he's being modest. some of these songs were probably written in minutes compared to others.
definately not as complex as others (chord structuring and all that)
it's us who hold them dear to our hearts. and there's a reason why they're b-sides.

"No matter how shitty things get, you just have to do a little dance."



but they're so fucking good they could be non-b-sides.

i remember when Frank started playing Pixies songs again, he used to play Dancing The Manta Ray sometimes.. there's some acoustic interview thing where he plays it, and before he does he says something like, "this kind of represents what Pixies songs were all about. it's a simple song".. and then busted into this fucking great version of it. i think the fact that he chose to cover this, at that stage, shows that (at least with that song, he thought there was something worthwhile there.

i think he's just being silly
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  01:39:26  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yeah they could be non b-sides but some would be fillers, no that's harsh....some would be like songs off catholic records. i'd rather they be included just so we can hear them. i wanna hear all frank's songs but just because they are fb/pixie songs doesn't automatically make them great.
and i don't think frank judges (wrong word i know) his songs the way we do.

Dancing the Manta ray is a brilliant song full stop, so i wouldn't group that with my 'some of these songs' list

"No matter how shitty things get, you just have to do a little dance."
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  01:50:47  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
actually, i would. it seems like a song that was written in minutes. but still brilliant.

"No matter how shitty things get, you just have to do a little dance."
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Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  05:45:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would cut my balls to have songs like that....

Blah blah blah
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <

France
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Posted - 06/07/2005 :  06:32:48  Show Profile  Visit cassandra is's Homepage  Reply with Quote
me too, and my legs too


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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =

Chile
652 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2005 :  16:46:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would like to know what b-sides was he refering to.
'cause c'mon EVERY goddamn b-side phuking rule!!!
Maybe it's just me who likes them so much because my first pixies record was "the b-side file 3rd edition" and I just fell in love with it.
Funny because it is a post-pixies record and it also is a bootleg
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fluoxetine
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:01:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

Frank wrote the liner notes of Complete B-sides himself
he must have listened to those songs at that moment
I can't imagine he would think they suck
they rule

Theme from Narc

damn! the best instrumental ever?
(it's a cover but still)

"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"



Didn't realise it was a cover. Who did it originally?

And Mosh, Don't Pass the Guy is a better instrumental, IMO ;)

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The Holiday Son
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France
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:21:58  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fluoxetine
Didn't realise it was a cover. Who did it originally?


It's from the video game "Narc"
Hence the title!
I think Frank explains it in the Complete B-Sides liner notes.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  11:26:06  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joey Joe Jo Jr. Chabadoo

Would cut my balls to have songs like that....


w'oh! no need.
Dancing the Manta Ray is like 5 chords. sure you can muster some little ditty from say, 6?

EVERY goddamn Pixie b-side phuking rule compared to the majority of bands a-sides

Edited by - fbc on 06/08/2005 11:26:48
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 06/08/2005 :  16:46:01  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think Frank is his own worst critic. Still, I can see why he wouldn't want to do a show of ONLY B-sides and rarities. On the other hand, the "greatest hits only" setlists of last year's Pixies shows could have used the occasional rarity.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1713 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2005 :  19:13:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


original NES baby!

Edited by - tobafett on 06/08/2005 19:14:26
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frank_black_
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Ireland
105 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  06:19:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i would lvoe to see some B-sides too but as someone else said, there are a reaosn why they are b-sides. Although I love the b-sides, i still would probably prefer to hear album songs.

"Who doesn't like the ******* Who?" ~ Frank Black
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2461 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2005 :  08:09:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I certainly agree with what VoVat says. The setlists this year are shaping up very nicely.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 06/17/2005 :  05:24:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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fluoxetine
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Posted - 06/20/2005 :  18:07:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hellish picture of the man.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2005 :  19:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks to be circa Coachella last spring.



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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2005 :  19:24:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
ok.. how did i miss this cool thread???

That's so cool Frank wants to tour with Honeycomb!!!

And I agree... what b sides suck? I am sorry but I like the b sides just as much or more as the regular songs!!!

29 more days~~~
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2005 :  09:43:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here here!! And even more so, in some cases!
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