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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 05/18/2005 :  20:34:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm doing a little statistical experiment with the songs Frank has written.. It's for my college course...but first, a question before I begin my research:

Did FB use a 'capo' in the Pixies or his personal band recordings?
How about alternate-tunings?


...very hot...



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rock over london, rock on chicago
Why the Hell would you use the color 'beige' for your text?

fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/19/2005 :  00:41:16  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know if a capo was used when playing live but the records say:

capo 1st fret on Havalina, The Happening and Velouria

tuned up half a step and d-tuned on Palace of The Brine and Letter to Memphis

Hang On To Your Ego tuned either down or up half a step (forgot which one)
I Heard Ramona Sing - think high E d-tuned to B

Adventure and Resolution from what i've worked out may be d-tuned capo on 1st, or tuned up half a step and d-tuned.

I Need Peace is d-tuned

Billy Radcliffe capo on 1st
85 Weeks capo on 2nd

Blast Off has some alt. tuning going on (A up to B i think)
I've always thought 'If It Takes All Night' is tuned up or down but not sure

Jaina Blues could be open G but still up for debate.


This is all off the top of my head, so I may be wrong (slightly) or have missed a few out.
I'll be back soon to see how this is going and to help out
Oh, try checking the tabs section. Proverbial's done an excellant job.

Edited by - fbc on 05/19/2005 00:51:51
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fbc
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Posted - 05/19/2005 :  00:49:19  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
and your right, this is fun

Just had a quick look at the Pixie tabs -

Break My Body, i think the high E string is tuned down to B

Sliver is open E tuning with a slide
Here Comes Your Man i now remember is off standard tuning just a little, but not enough to be classed as up or down half a step.

Rock Music is tuned down half a step

Wild Honey Pie is definate alt. tuning. maybe open G?

Edited by - fbc on 05/19/2005 00:54:59
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fbc
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Posted - 05/19/2005 :  04:43:32  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Parry The Wind High, Low is d-tuned

Edited by - fbc on 05/19/2005 04:43:48
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 05/19/2005 :  05:24:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, fbc! Very, very helpful...

thanks
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fbc
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Posted - 05/19/2005 :  09:45:00  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
it's cool, but have to apologise to FB. i said Sliver instead of Silver. Oopsy!

I'm home in abit so should be able to confirm what i've already posted and add any i've missed.

glad this helps =)
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 05/19/2005 :  17:54:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fbc

Break My Body, i think the high E string is tuned down to B


Really?! Wow, never saw that before. I play the G barre chord style, but with the B and high E open.

Don't forget, Planet Of Sound and Alec Eiffel both utilise dropped-D tuning!!
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~

Spain
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Posted - 05/20/2005 :  02:40:38  Show Profile  Click to see Newo's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Heloise and End Of Miles are capoed too.

--

"Here love," brakes on a high squeak, "itīs not backstage at the old Windmill or something, you know."
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fbc
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Posted - 05/20/2005 :  02:51:13  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

quote:
Originally posted by fbc

Break My Body, i think the high E string is tuned down to B


Really?! Wow, never saw that before. I play the G barre chord style, but with the B and high E open.



just an acoustic version I've heard, the b string ringing out got me thinking.
not sure but have had a few nice plays of it this way.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 05/20/2005 :  08:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I saw him use a capo (2nd fret) for Dog Gone. I think that was at the Knitting Factory May 5 2002.


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 05/20/2005 :  19:36:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And apparently I Gotta Move is cappoed at the 3rd fret. It's great to play, sounds like one of those religious songs played in church years ago by the some local guitar playing girls! :)
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fbc
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Posted - 05/21/2005 :  02:58:58  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
St. Francis Dam Disaster man. That's capoed on 1st fret
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 05/21/2005 :  03:07:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh, right. Another lovely strummin' song.
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 05/23/2005 :  16:18:29  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
From AlecEiffel.net:

"We have a fake 12-string thing we do - read about it in Musician, actually. Keith Richards was talking about getting rid of the high E, he drops the E to B. So if I break a high E, I'll leave it off for a while. Sounds cool."

"We have a few songs - Allison, The Happening, Stormy Weather - that are tuned up a half-step, capoed up like the Who, just for fun. And we've got to keep going back to those guitars that are tuned up a half step because they ring better."

When I saw FB do Velouria live with the Catholics, and I think on a P reunion set from a festival I taped off VH2, he uses a capo at the first fret. Maybe Kim and Joey only ever played it in standard, just a semitone up.

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 05/24/2005 :  08:26:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting, thanks for that.
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fbc
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Posted - 05/30/2005 :  11:50:32  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
tonight i heard a live version of Ten Percenter and either the lead guitar or fb down tunes the high E to B

cornered the boy kicked out at the world
the world kicked back alot fuckin' harder

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fbc
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Posted - 05/30/2005 :  11:51:03  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, and how's the stats coming on, kirk?

cornered the boy kicked out at the world
the world kicked back alot fuckin' harder

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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 06/01/2005 :  11:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It turns out the project has to be done in groups, 3-4 people.. so my idea of gathering technical information about Mr. Black's songs was thrown out the window.

Instead, we're determining if Freshmen/Sophomores spend more time on video games than studying. Dammit.
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fbc
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Posted - 06/01/2005 :  13:40:09  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
oh well. least we got a good thread going here
very interesting if you know your Capo from your Ebow

it all looks beautiful to me
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 06/01/2005 :  14:01:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doog

When I saw FB do Velouria live with the Catholics, and I think on a P reunion set from a festival I taped off VH2, he uses a capo at the first fret. Maybe Kim and Joey only ever played it in standard, just a semitone up.



I saw him play Velouria at McCabe's and there was no capo. Seemed like he was struggling to remember how to play it at that time, though.
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