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Devils Islander
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  04:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've had a quick look in the database, but I can't seem to find out what this song is about...or rather, what is the significance of the number 1826?

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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  05:29:43  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Isn't that song about the Trail of Tears - the forced exile of the Southeastern Indian tribes in the 1820s? Not sure, just an idea.

Anyway, this topic reminds me of another song title I don't understand: 'Mosh, Don't Pass the Guy'. Can anyone explain it for me?...



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Devils Islander
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  06:16:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that's to do with FB's dislike of attention seeking, pain-in-the-arse crowd surfers making cunts of themselves at his gigs.
Now back to 1826...

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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  14:16:10  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks - but I'd like to know what the title exactly means...

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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  14:28:17  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  14:53:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Mosh" - as in "moshing" or "mosh pit".
"Don't pass the guy" - as in people at gigs who jump from the stage and expect the poor people in the first row to catch them and carry them along. AKA "crowd surfing".

I read a Frank interview in which he said it was "about the sort of dancing you see at gigs", and he added "but it's an instrumental, so that's only a joke". Or something to that effect. I found a mention here.
But I can't find the interview anymore.

Also this, from a post by Jordo on this very forum:
"...Cult of Ray has "Mosh, Don't Pass the Guy", which Frank Black has said was based on a quote from John Flansburgh of TMBG."

Can't find anything on 1826 though.



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Sir Rockabye
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USA
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  14:55:53  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd agree with the Trail of Tears idea, but the dates are a little bit off. The five "Civilized Tribes" (amongst others) that were expelled by Jackson and 1834's Indian Intercourse Act travelled along the trail of tears mainly between 1830 and 1838. Not to say that Indians weren't forced out of their homes prior to this period, but just that the trail of tears occurred a bit after 1826.


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  15:50:57  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks Sir Jedi and Mr. Rockabye :)

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Jason
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Posted - 05/15/2005 :  21:07:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1826 might refer to something other than a year. Maybe it's a clue to a word game in the lyrics or some kind of pattern in the music. I don't know. I'm not into figuring these things out.
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Mad Lucas
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Australia
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Posted - 05/16/2005 :  04:52:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always had the idea that Mosh was based around the rock music festival idea, where if someone not so popular was playing, people pass by rather than huddle around like a popular act. FB being a solo 'guy' is another interesting thing. Just my thought without research.

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Devils Islander
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United Kingdom
101 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2005 :  12:13:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

1826 might refer to something other than a year. Maybe it's a clue to a word game in the lyrics or some kind of pattern in the music.


Nice idea. Given FB's track record with acrostics in previous songs, you may well be onto something here.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 05/16/2005 :  12:50:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mad Lucas, I'd never thought of that and it's quite
compelling and plausible. Thanks! No clue on 1826...


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Carl
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Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2005 :  18:50:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it's about the number of forum posts Frank has. Except he dos'nt have that many.(there goes another theory!!) ;)
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
2002 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2005 :  10:25:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm probably way off, but I always think of this song as a freeway chase. The siren sound in the middle of it just adds that much more visual for me. I'm not sure how 1826 fits into it, but thats just what I think of when I hear it.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 05/17/2005 :  11:38:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hm. Also interesting to think about. I'm gonna put that
on right now and ponder the siren/chase idea. Thanks!


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VoVat
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USA
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Posted - 05/18/2005 :  16:31:04  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
No poster currently has 1826 posts. The closest without going over is TheCroutonFuton, with 1722.



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