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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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 Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:47:04
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...has anyone ever seen Francois Truffaut's mesmerizing adaptation of FAHRENHEIT 451? It is one of the most beautiful and amazing films ever made, starring two fabulously beautiful and talented actors, Julie Christie and the always haunting (or haunted?) Oskar Werner. I highly recommend it. Bradbury himself adores this picture. This was Truffaut's first foray into color AND English (he didn't speak a lick of it), and it's every bit as good as his original works such as The Four Hundred Blows and Jules et Jim. AND, for anyone who knows his film composers, I need not even go into the masterful artistry of Bernard Herrmann. Anyway...check it out!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:48:30
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i agree. it's an underrated film..
got to see it recently as a double-feature with SOYLENT GREEN. long live the New Beverly Theatre |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:55:19
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Originally posted by floop
i agree. it's an underrated film..
got to see it recently as a double-feature with SOYLENT GREEN. long live the New Beverly Theatre
Wednesday is Soylent Green-day. I love when beloved ol' Joe Cotton gets it on the head with a tire iron. Always something slightly disturbing seeing the elderly die so violently. Ha!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:58:02
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Downloaded but never seen. I'll do it this weekend.
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2005 : 14:58:29
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 05/05/2005 : 17:38:30
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Yeah, it's very good. The world is starting to go that way, I think all books will be destroyed* in a couple of years!
*Except the holy ones. And first editions of The Lord Of The Rings, they're too valuable!
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 02:29:20
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Originally posted by Carl
Yeah, it's very good. The world is starting to go that way, I think all books will be destroyed* in a couple of years!
*Except the holy ones. And first editions of The Lord Of The Rings, they're too valuable!
They needn't destroy all books - nobody reads them anyway...
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 11:41:48
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Okay...weird hypothesis:
Suppose we were living in a near-future society controlled by an oppressing government. By law, all books MUST be destroyed...burned, in this case...or you will be executed if raided and found to be guilty of harboring literature.
(In Bradbury's story, outlaws living in the forest have commited books to memory, and pass on to future generations these written works. In my scenario, this does not exist.)
You decide to rid yourself of your library...
...save for ONE book.
Which book (that you currently own) would you keep?
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 11:55:08
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
Suppose we were living in a near-future society controlled by an oppressing government
Suppose???
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/06/2005 : 12:09:20
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
Suppose we were living in a near-future society controlled by an oppressing government
Suppose???
Another example of how far over the edge the conventional left has gone, all the while kissing the asses of Castro, China, North Korea, and any other dictator they can find.
You DO NOT live in a police state. You ARE NOT oppressed. Words DO have meanings. |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 12:17:36
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I was just kidding, man. And I don't get why you're using it to blame on the "conventional left".
El amor es la distancia más larga entre un punto y otro |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 12:40:48
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OKAY...
...back to the question, Mr. Presidents.
Which book would you keep?
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 12:57:24
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
I was just kidding, man. And I don't get why you're using it to blame on the "conventional left".
I attributed it to the left because of all the Bush=Hitler stuff we've seen. I thought you might be kidding, and even if I thought you were, I must admit I over-reacted. Clearly it pushes one of my buttons. Or maybe I'm just one big button.
On Topic: My book would be "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins. |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 13:09:50
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Originally posted by Erebus
Or maybe I'm just one big button.
Sounds dirty...
Ok, my book would be "Twilight of the Idols", because some Nietzsche should be saved for the future generations.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 13:10:33
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ok book, hmm. I can't pick one no can do no no.
(plus it'd be a fairly trashy one I did pick so I think I'll just defer)
I suppose I could save one of my textbooks, that'd be useful.
[edit number twelvety]
Hey Erebus, I just looked up the selfish gene on amazon because I don't tend to read a whole lot of the popular science books. I read the editorial and the book description and then I read the reviews
The reviews really really sucked.
Why would you save it if you don't mind me asking, based entirely on what I've read about it just, I wouldn't have thought it exactly your cup of tea? (you get tea over there right..)
enlighten a confused one.
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Edited by - starmekitten on 05/06/2005 13:35:26 |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:25:21
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Originally posted by starmekitten
The reviews really really sucked.
Why would you save it if you don't mind me asking, based entirely on what I've read about it just, I wouldn't have thought it exactly your cup of tea? (you get tea over there right..)
enlighten a confused one.
It's a great book. Very good introduction to natural selection and Dawkins is a great writer. Whoever gave the bad reviews is probably into intelligent design/creationism. |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 05/06/2005 : 15:29:56
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The reviews weren't bad, sorry if I was unclear, they were written bloody poorly. One guy going on about how this book caused him serious depression over a number of years because he lost his faith and was left with a "god shaped hole"
meeting people is easy |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 05/07/2005 : 11:21:08
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And I don't get why you're using it to blame on the "conventional left".
Because he's Erebus? :P
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One guy going on about how this book caused him serious depression over a number of years because he lost his faith and was left with a "god shaped hole"
Does God HAVE a shape?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:13:54
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Originally posted by VoVat
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And I don't get why you're using it to blame on the "conventional left".
Because he's Erebus? :P
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One guy going on about how this book caused him serious depression over a number of years because he lost his faith and was left with a "god shaped hole"
Does God HAVE a shape?
VV, your humor prompts interesting issues, not by accident I suspect. funny thing about god is that it is its very nebulousness that makes it so useful for so many minds. god would be all things to all people. heaven would be in one's mind. the less we know about god, to include its shape, the better able the individual may in turn shape it to conform to his needs. give us a god for all people. give us a god without shape, for we would shape it. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:33:08
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by starmekitten
The reviews really really sucked.
Why would you save it if you don't mind me asking, based entirely on what I've read about it just, I wouldn't have thought it exactly your cup of tea? (you get tea over there right..)
enlighten a confused one.
It's a great book. Very good introduction to natural selection and Dawkins is a great writer. Whoever gave the bad reviews is probably into intelligent design/creationism.
TY d-man. This book, circa 77 or so, took the neo-darwinism of the sixties and seventies and consolidated it into a set of concise chapters of deep outline on how individuals, families, and societies function. This book changed forever the way I looked upon what it means to be human. No doubt the Selfish Gene has subsequently been updated and expanded, into a whole genre of human understanding, but when it came out it was the splash in a certain pond which has since become an ocean.
Tre, I know it hardly seems the kind of book my redneck self would applaud. Our friend darwin knows better than both of us, however, that a thorough treatment of the evolutionary basis of the human (i.e. animal) conditon permits both liberal and conservative political interpretations of the gene pool we call humankind. Funny thing is, however much we argue (which we are not doing now), nature will decide for us, bitch that she is. Gotta love her though, for she we would call Mother. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:46:31
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Oh, shit! I forgot to get Nature a Mother's Day gift!
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:50:59
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Originally posted by Erebus
Tre, I know it hardly seems the kind of book my redneck self would applaud.
Thats not what I meant and you know it, bad erebus. I think I was reading about a revised edition, 1977 you say? way before I was born :P
But thank you both darwin and erebus for that information. Will add it to my list of things I should probably read at some point.
meeting people is easy |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2005 : 12:53:02
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Originally posted by VoVat
Oh, shit! I forgot to get Nature a Mother's Day gift!
you poor mo fo, you just can't help yourself, can you? |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2005 : 13:09:01
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Well, maybe I COULD help myself, but what fun would that be?
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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Speaking of Bradbury...
