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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1453 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2005 :  19:16:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by fumanbru
[ it ended up being a hung jury.



but was it a hung jury?











i didn't want to post that, but did anyway. i am channeling VoVat



i like that. now i can say i'm a hung juror. thanks vovat.


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it."

Edited by - fumanbru on 04/27/2005 19:17:27
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2005 :  19:39:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeh, never been on a jury. Interesting hearing all your stories.

Covered a lot of cases ranging from arson, to child molest, to murder.

I do disagree that child molest cases never have no evidence. In the case of girls, if there is penetration, it can be detected in most instances.

One case I covered a meth head dad... was in court for sticking his finger into his four month old daughter, which ripped her badly. Dad, said "It was an accident I was just tossing her up and my hand slipped in her diaper... yada yada yada." Luckily he did crack-- this was a prelimary hearing-- the judge was asking him questions. He finally admitted he purpously did this to his daughter because he was mad his wife had gone out to party.

The other, a very sad case-- three teens a brother, and two fraternal girl twins were molested on an on going basis by their prominant dad. There were even people who knew the van was a rocking at a hs basketball game. The dad was basically "raping" one of his daughters. So many people knew about it but were afraid to do something. Once one of the daughters became 18 she filed charges against the dad. At first her brother and sister were on her side. But when the dad bribed the kids with money, they turned on her sister. It was a very brave fight, but she ended up killing her self. I had known her from a friend of a friend and she was super cool. So sadly, this is one of those cases where there wasn't enough evidence.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2005 :  17:43:27  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I've never been summoned for jury duty. I'm afraid I will be at some point when I have something else planned.



I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11533 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2005 :  06:22:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Anyone ever get summoned to her court?
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17122 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2005 :  11:15:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd sure love to be 'summoned to her court'.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2005 :  11:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pls. say you're joking, Monkey man!


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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2005 :  12:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, please say you're joking. seriously
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17122 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2005 :  04:32:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am I ever not?


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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1453 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2005 :  07:09:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i guess that is kind of funny. thinking of what you two would be doing in the courtroom....i wonder if porn directors have explored court room themes. you could really do lots with the hung jury.


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ cause I'm a real go-getter!"
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11533 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2005 :  07:11:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Y'know, it's funny, a porn-a-like movie title came into my head earlier on;'Don't Tell Mom The Babysitter Gives Head'! :O :)
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17122 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2005 :  07:12:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha yeah, the 'Well Hung Dury'.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2005 :  10:06:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Homers, my friend just told me that her lame-o
brother has agreed to take before Judge Judy
his case against his roommate. Should be
a fun half-hour of TV viewing.


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17122 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2005 :  11:53:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Haha, what's the case exactly? I haven't seen that program since my Oz days.


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coastline
> Teenager of the Year <

USA
2950 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2017 :  07:31:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Guess I'm gonna be a contrarian here, but heh, why stop now, right?

I've been called three times, serving on two juries. Once was a medical malpractice case in which a surgeon apparently left a surgical towel, or "sponge", in a guy’s chest cavity. About a week into the trial another of the jurors told me in private that her son had been mistreated by a hospital following his motorcycle accident and that she was looking at her jury duty as an opportunity to "get some justice". Of course I knew this was improper. I went home that night stewing over what to do and then the next morning wrote a note reporting the matter to “Bailiff Wendy”. A couple hours later I got a call directly from the judge, and after my explanation he called me and the two sides’ counsels into his chambers. Upshot was that given a shortage of replacement jurors, a mistrial was declared.

The second trial I was on was a child molestation case in which another juror and I thought that the case against him had not been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt, so we held out against the other ten jurors and eventually produced a hung jury, and therefore another mistrial. During this trial I encountered jurors saying things such as “well, I don’t know whether he’s guilty or not, but I’d feel terrible if he were and we acquitted him, so I’m voting guilty.” No conception of responsibility to find beyond reasonable doubt!

Both of these experiences were appalling, leaving me with even greater contempt for my fellow citizens. Jury of my peers, my ass! If I’m ever tried for anything I’ll do everything I can to get a trial by judge. So, far from feeling a “duty” to serve on a jury, I think only those with IQs above that of a walnut should be allowed to serve. You cannot possibly overestimate the ethical obtuseness of the common man.

[edit: fixed four irritating typos]



God, I miss erebus. I was reminded of him recently when I listened to the podcast S-Town. The guy that the podcast is based on has so much in common with erebus, including his strangely hopeful brand of cynicism.


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