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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  09:01:39  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Someone's selling another promo copy of Honeycomb on ebay, and this time there's a picture of the CD cover:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1057&item=4722582009&rd=1

Who knows if it's the official artwork or just something they did for the promo CDs. If it's the actual artwork, the forumers who chosed the colours for the new forum design were spot on...


Denis

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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  09:18:40  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like the font.

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  09:32:14  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's interesting he'd go with the same font twice in a row (FBF also used Clarendon). We got lucky there, as far as the site design goes.


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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  09:36:57  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, it does look like FBF. I just never listen to that one so that went over my head a bit at first.

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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  09:53:25  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A promotional disc including all the tracks - wouldn't that make it an advanced copy instead?
And honeycomb with an 'e'. It's not like 'e' is close to 'b' on the keyboard to make it a typo.
Hasn't this person tried selling this before, but without the artwork uploaded?

Sorry guys, i'm too much of a pessimist. Hope i'm wrong. I might try bidding for it to see what the crack is.
The liner notes and inner sleeve will definately confirm or disprove my suspicions

EDIT: a pessimist and wrong

Edited by - fbc on 04/25/2005 15:59:59
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  10:09:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always picture a kind of white colour, with some kind of 'honeycomb' theme. Let's have a 'Guess The Honeycomb Cover' comp, whoever gets closest wins!!
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The Marsist
= Cult of Ray =

Ireland
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  11:12:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i dont like it.it does atually look like a promo copy

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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  11:20:35  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I'm hoping it's not (as far as cover art goes, not really an issue in the grand scheme..) looks a little 'naff' to be official. Very unoriginal

EDIT NOW THE DESIGNERS HERE: i mean unoriginal as in there's not much going on other than the main image.

Edited by - fbc on 04/26/2005 16:32:54
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =

USA
607 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  11:23:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ouch! It is currently selling for a little over $45 dollars.



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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
391 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  11:37:06  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

It's interesting he'd go with the same font twice in a row (FBF also used Clarendon). We got lucky there, as far as the site design goes.



It's not a Clarendon, but the American Typewriter


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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  12:00:23  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ummm... no it's not. Take a look, for example, at the top of the 'y's.


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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  15:34:57  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Ummm... no it's not. Take a look, for example, at the top of the 'y's.




Damn, you're right...
I think I should stop calling myself a graphic designer...

But it isn't a Clarendon either!





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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  15:38:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Am I the only one who is bothered by something about
this whole thing? I can't quite put my finger on it..


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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  15:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am fairly certain that cover is authentic.

bye,
Jon Tiven
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  15:51:21  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well there you go folks! The words of a man who would know.

I was thinking with the Nashville influence and the players it would be something more interesting, I don't know what, something that does justice to the songs inside. Who cares, huh? The cover isn't what will be playing through my system, it's all about the music.


Eire, here I come!

Edited by - fbc on 04/25/2005 16:02:49
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  16:12:11  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's a moral dilemma, kathryn. As a fan of the man, and collector of his art, what do you do?


Eire, here I come!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  16:14:06  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chicken, check out the Frank Black portion:
Click here

Now, I have to admit that Honeycomb is different, too, because there's some roundness that doesn't appear in the clarendon's that I looked at, but I'd venture that it's probably in the same family or else is a very close relative. Possibly sister?

Actually, it almost looks like Clarendon Wide Light with bold applied to it. What do you think?:
Click here


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Zsolt G.
- FB Fan -

117 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  17:33:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is that a picture of exactly? I wonder if this will look more creative in person.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  17:40:01  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Only if it's scratch and sniff.

mmmm...honey.


Eire, here I come!
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  17:44:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

I am fairly certain that cover is authentic.

bye,
Jon Tiven



hey jon, is jean still doing his album design stuff?
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 04/25/2005 :  17:45:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zsolt G.

What is that a picture of exactly?


suede? i'm going for wrinkled suede
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  17:50:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thousand-year-old fossilized tortilla chips
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Posted - 04/25/2005 :  23:45:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dayanara

quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

I am fairly certain that cover is authentic.

bye,
Jon Tiven



hey jon, is jean still doing his album design stuff?



It doesn't seems to me the same designer, it's a completly different style.


how do I post a pic?

- Frank Black 04/22/2005
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2005 :  00:49:41  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think I like it. I just wish the font weren't B&W. They should have replaced the white font by an ivory like on the border of the pic.


Denis

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  01:02:51  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
this could work, it has a classic vibe.
at least it's better than DW and BLD
those were awful

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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  04:03:51  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know what you mean about the font colour, vilainde (the font too, very modern)
And I guess they want the names for marketing reasons, but I would love to see the cover with no text, just on the spine.

want want want want want


Eire, here I come!
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chickenwithtwoheads
= Cult of Ray =

Netherlands
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  05:33:39  Show Profile  Visit chickenwithtwoheads's Homepage  Click to see chickenwithtwoheads's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Chicken, check out the Frank Black portion:
Click here

Now, I have to admit that Honeycomb is different, too, because there's some roundness that doesn't appear in the clarendon's that I looked at, but I'd venture that it's probably in the same family or else is a very close relative. Possibly sister?

Actually, it almost looks like Clarendon Wide Light with bold applied to it. What do you think?:
Click here





Take a closer look at the bottom serifs of the M, that's characteristic for the American Typewriter.
Hard to see due to the screen resolution, but I'm convinced.

If you want it for the new forum look, just let me know...


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  05:36:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, that looks a lot better close up. If it really is the official cover, that'll do it for me!!
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  05:40:05  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
EDIT: took the pic down, doesn't deserve to grace this thread now it's getting serious

and me thinks it's american typewriter too. it's the small 'h' amd 'm' that does it for me


Eire, here I come!

Edited by - fbc on 04/27/2005 02:03:21
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2005 :  07:10:46  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nah, we're done with new forum looks for a long time, I hope, but thanks. :)


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bogie007
- FB Fan -

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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  16:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I'm the person that did the cover art for Honeycomb (not Jean). The picture on ebay is an ok reproduction of it, but it looks better in person b/c you can't really see the texture very well in this particular photo. I gave Frank five different designs for the cover, and he chose the one he wanted. All of the designs looked very different, some of them had figures in them and some were completely abstract (like the one he ended up choosing for the cover). Maybe, if you ask him really nicely, Frank will use one of the other designs for a promo or a T-Shirt or something :) I am a HUGE Frank Black fan, and have been for a long time, so it was an amazing experience to design a cover for him. I listed to Honeycomb many, many times before (and during, actually) working on the different cover designs, so you can rest assured that the cover is not something I just threw together at the last minute. If you have questions about the cover art (or want to put a bunch of my paintings in your gallery, ha ha), you can post them and I will try to reply in a timely fashion.
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fbc
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  16:23:15  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi 007, wow! Thanks for this opportunity.

What exactly is the front cover of, please?
Oh, and who pointed Frank in your direction? As a fan it must have been pretty exciting.


Eire, here I come!

Edited by - fbc on 04/26/2005 16:26:24
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fbc
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United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2005 :  16:30:34  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sorry about this, too many questions in this head o' mine:

Can you clear up the font query too, is it a version of 'American Typewriter'?


Eire, here I come!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2005 :  19:53:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
007 thanks so much for discussing the cover art with us! It's beautiful!! How wonderful that you are a fan!! I can tell that you must have put your heart and soul into this as the cover is spectacular!!!

I would love to have a big poster of it hanging up on my wall! :)Also, I would like to hang up a poster at work too

Do you have a link to your artwork??? It would be great to check out some of your stuff!!

It's beautiful and maybe Frank will sign some and put them on Ebay. I can't go too crazy, but it would be so cool to have one that Frank signed!!

Well this is cool! I know exactly what to run and grab a whole bunch of and buy when they go on sale. Hopefully this will give me and edge at the record store

Any way I like the font too!!!

http://www.fontshop.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.fontdetail&displayfontid=UR.110045.0.1&attributes.sampleSize=32&sampleText=Frank+Black+Rules%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21%21&sampleSize=24
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2005 :  19:59:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nice work bogie007. i like it. looks classy.

did you get a chance to talk to frank about the music or any possible ideas before you started the designs?


"I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it."
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2005 :  20:02:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
good question fumanbru :) made me think of this: 007 what are some of the other designs you explored? thanks!!!
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