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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
 Posted - 03/31/2005 : 15:00:07
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I met her in the mountains
Though I lived down by the sea
But now it seems these mountains
Are just way too high for me
Goodbye Lorraine
Goodbye Lorraine
Let me explain
She said we’ll be witches
Then there must be nakedness
I said you have no heart until
That aching fills your chest
Goodbye Lorraine
Goodbye Lorraine
Let me explain
Just why I’m leaving
I don’t know what for
But I can’t explain it anymore
We help hands in the temple
But we had no wedding day
Now she sends me perfumed letters
And I throw them all away
A friend showed me a picture
From the 1970's
Now I'm wondering where you are tonight
And I'm singing woe is me
Goodbye Lorraine
Goodbye Lorraine
Let me explain
Just why I'm leaving
I don't know what for
But I can't explain it anymore
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mosleyk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
607 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 15:23:55
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 15:35:32
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Yeah I'm going to take a leap and say a little too country.
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This is the war and not the warning. |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 16:37:39
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honeycomb has got far less country twang than this
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1158 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 17:47:46
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Eh, I've got to admit that in my opinion this is the weakest track from SMYT. I get this huge burst of emotion from When Will Happiness Find Me Again, just to be a tad disappointed with this track.
Are you honest when no one's looking? Can you summon honey from a telephone? They sat there with their hooks in the water and their mustaches caked with airplane glue. |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 23:10:31
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hmmm another tricky one for the digging up stuff on, I may run two of these at a time if it carries on like this.
Ok, thoughts on this: http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=1986 is it odd trivia or is it coinky-dink
I read through the whole of the bloomin king holds court thread to discover the man did not comment on the lovely denis' observation thusly:
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Originally posted by vilainde
Hi Frank. I noticed the intro of Goodbye Lorraine (the drums kicks) sound exactly like the intro of Bowie's Sound & Vision. Was it on purpose?
Denis
 "I'm in the Cult of Frank/Now how the hell do I get out?"
and I just read through about a hundred setlists and reviews, my alarm to wake me up has just gone off and I suspect I could do with a coffee :P
this is all I got out of the forum, not much huh?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 23:27:41
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Ha! Did I post that?
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/31/2005 : 23:40:23
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you most certainly did!
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 01:43:01
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Hi, after waking and not being able to go back to sleep, I did some googling for "lorraine witches" and "lorraine [english results only]"
http://crisismagazine.com/october2001/feature1.htm
"Alternatively, the witches of Lorraine were said to be "fine and crafty, careful not to quarrel with people or threaten them. Effusive compliments were signs of suspected witchcraft in Lorraine, and suppressed anger could be ominous. Being innocent of the impossible crimes associated with witchcraft did not necessarily mean that witch-hunt victims were "nice." Some were prostitutes, beggars, or petty criminals. Austria's Zauberjäeckl trials (1675-1690) punished as witches people who were actually dangerous felons. The Magic Jacket Society prosecuted in those trials was a Baroque version of the Hell's Angels, recruiting waifs whom it controlled through black magic, sodomy, and conjurations with mice. The prince-archbishop of Salzburg, Austria, graciously forbade executing members of the society who were under the age of twelve. But 200 others were put to death."
Check out this site to see some of the geography of Lorraine that is refered to in the first verse of the song, e.g., mountains and the sea.
http://www.cr-lorraine.fr/english_version/geographie/geographie.asp
Also, after listening to this song on headphones, I'm convinced that the lyrics posted in the FB song DB and the lyrics that Frank sings on the album are slightly different, e.g., first verse lyrics include "But now it seems these mountains" and Frank sings "And now it seems these mountains"; and second verse lyrics include "She said we'll be witches" and Frank sings "She said if we'll be witches".
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 02:24:38
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thats absolutely superb! thank you so much!
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 03:55:21
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Thank you so much, Starmekitten, for all of the time and energy that you have devoted, and continue to devote, to this project. We are indebted to you!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 13:46:46
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I actually like the steel guitar in this song.
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 04/01/2005 : 14:06:29
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Originally posted by kathryn
OldMan, I second your comments about db mistress tre.
So your research shows that "some were prostitutes, beggars, or petty criminals"? Doesn't that describe forum members to a T?
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I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
 Oh yeah! However, I've never been convicted, or if I have, all of those have been expunged from my record 
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Devils Islander
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United Kingdom
101 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2005 : 14:52:46
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Having just read the linked article about the witches of Lorraine; it helps me to feel a bit more charitable toward what is essentially a naff line-dancin' song.
Now if only somebody could come up with a credible excuse for me not to dislike "Violet".
...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2005 : 15:11:54
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Cool, I've never heard anything of the witch connection, nice sleuthing!
 "Oh dear / I seem to have joined the Cult of Frank." |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 20:47:00
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I agree with Sir Rock. I'll take it even further and say that this is the single worst song Frank has ever recorded. It's terrible. I give it 2 out of 10 on an unweighted scale.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2005 : 20:55:19
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Definitely one of my least favourite tracks of his entire career, but the lyrical insight almost raises my esteem for it if only because it epitomizes the appearance vs reality about Frank's songs that I really enjoy.
"Oh dear / I seem to have joined the Cult of Frank." |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 02:54:08
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it's very country, but I still like it
It's jaina blues and massif centrale that are not working for me entirely
If I feel funny and want to play air pedalsteel this is the song to put on!
 "I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 07:35:02
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do we think it's time for a new song?
 I joined the cult of Derek/ because Dereks don't run |
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =
Portugal
536 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2005 : 13:33:48
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| One of my favourite Frank songs, and definately one of the best on SMYT. Great lyrics, and even though it's not the most inventive things he's ever done, it's still 100x better than "when will happiness find me again". |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2005 : 00:43:16
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No way. Goodbye Lorraine is cool but WWHFMA is SMYT's best song.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2005 : 13:21:54
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I was just thinking about this song today, and wondering why "a picture from the 1970s" would make Frank nostalgic for Lorraine. I mean, if this song is at all autobiographical (and we have no real evidence that it is, I suppose), wasn't Frank 14 when the seventies ended? I guess the picture just gave him a general sense of nostalgia, or something.
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
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The Maharal
= Cult of Ray =
996 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2012 : 17:01:50
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| I was thinking that we needed to bump a few song threads to continue the forum's recent revival. Good work, effo. |
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Arm Arm Arm
* Dog in the Sand *
1037 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2013 : 15:02:34
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| This is a great song, a brilliant number. I resisted it and Show Me Your Tears for a long long time. Too country, too mid-tempo, too fucking country and now I love the album. It has a perfect flow to it, when I'm in the sad mood, the contemplative fugue, I enjoy listening to this record. This song has the classic Frank moment, maybe about a little over a minute into the song, the chords he plays and the vocal melody lift the song to another level. He does it so much, creating amazing juxtapositions with simple chords; such beauty. |
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fbc
-= Modulator =-
United Kingdom
4903 Posts |
Posted - 01/20/2013 : 16:55:09
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I'm always drawn to these flip the bird kind of lyrics in songs: Now she sends me perfumed letters and I throw them all away. They make me laugh, especially now I've grown a little cold hearted in my older age. I'm now thinking of Pistolero's Tiny Heart and smiling to myself.
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Goodbye Lorraine
