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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/14/2005 : 15:17:56
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The next in line for db update....
Well, I took a little something
To make my worries go away
I laid down with a movie
And I started to feel OK
But I heard the doorbell ringing
And I opened up to see
My worries they were waiting there for me
Now Death, as you’d expect
He was all dressed up in black
Misfortune in her stockings
And a curve upon her back
And the Chorus Of The Lonely
In their gospel robes, of course
They were singing ‘bout my imminent divorce
It’s a beautiful day
No, it’s a horrible day
Maybe I will grin but I won’t bear
It’s a beautiful day
No, it’s a horrible day
And for the first time in my life I just don’t care
So let me get my coat
And let me get my stash
I’ll trade my VCR
For a pocketful of cash
I’ll take off with my worries
And I’ll even let Death drive
We’re sure to get there
Dead or alive
It’s a beautiful day
No, it’s a horrible day
You can see here by my grin I don’t give a fuck
It’s a beautiful day
No, it’s a horrible day
And for the first time in my life I don’t need the luck
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2005 : 15:34:16
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I've got no insights here, just compliments. Also, I like
how Death and Misfortune are characters. Anybody
know if that's a tarot thing?
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2792 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2005 : 19:13:04
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 01:23:51
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What's a "stash"?
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 01:38:17
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 06:25:09
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Yeah, can be anything. It's like a personal collection, usually held in secret so as not to be pilfered. Ooh, that almost sounds like it comes from a dictionary.
I don't have the album in front of me, but isn't it "She was" not "He"?
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 06:33:00
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Hey Dean, try not to explain obscure words by using even more obscure words... Now you'll have to define "pilfered".
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 07:11:36
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No, actually he says "he was all dressed up in black" and then refers to death as a her "Misfortune in her stockings And a curve upon her back"
and misfortune is spelt wrong above, but that hardly matters... "CORRECT IT" GOD DAMN...
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1713 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 07:35:20
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 07:48:53
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yes, that's the controversy from day one tobafett
that must have been quite a special VCR
however (and I'm quoting here)
there would be some people who would like to pay a pocket full of cash
by anything frank related
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 07:50:55
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ohh and btw
Jean didn't like the use of 'fuck' in this song
but Frank mentioned that he didn't know any word that he wanted to rhyme
with luck
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 07:56:27
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duck rhymes with luck. No need to be a genius songwriter to find that one.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 08:15:43
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You can see here by my grin I don’t give a duck...
ya, beacuse that would fit...
thats the stupidest reply to a post i've read all day...
duck off, u duckin' eejit...
quack quack..
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 08:39:07
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Jop, how do you know that Jean didn't like that? What's your
source. (I ask, not in an obnoxious, challenging way but
with curiosity.)
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 08:42:19
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I keep thinking that "a curve upon her back" refers
to some literary character or device. I could be
wrong. Any literature majors out there?
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 08:44:40
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is it not the curve of the sythe or what-ever drooped over deaths shoulder?
or it could be the duck
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 08:50:45
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That makes sense! A scythe is curved.
I had some vague idea that it was a reference to something in
a fairy tale .... don't mind me. I'm unclear on this. But a scythe, that
makes sense.
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 09:04:57
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I always think of the "monty python" sketch in "the meaning of life" when death comes to the door when the couples are having a dinner party... tis very funny...
hee, hee...
tnks for correcting spelling "scythe"....
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 09:10:21
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You are blowing my mind! A duck's back is curved!
Yet somehow I don't think that's what Frank was going after.
One of the many things I admire and enjoy about this song
is Frank's use of personification (he's got Worries waiting, Death dressed up, etc.) It's creative and literary and good. Perhaps worth a quick mention in the db. "Frank uses personification
in this song." Or not.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:10:33
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Hey hey hey! I ripped the lyrics out of the db, any mistakes spelling or content are nothing to do with me!
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:12:18
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maybe the curve is scoliosis
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:20:19
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could be, but most probably both...
(the easy way out "we're both right" reply....)
i'd say vilainde is ready to strike out if i mention the duck again so i'll refrain |
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =
385 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:33:42
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Personifications are all right, but the thing that's really special about this song is how well it captures a certain type of mood. I tried to think of a better way to express this feeling, but it's not possible. What Frank did here if on spot perfect:
It’s a beautiful day
No, it’s a horrible day
Maybe I will grin but I won’t bear
Plus the music...
You know that feeling, that unsettling, unpleasant kind of feeling? Like Frank said...
I was actually thinking about starting a thread about this song some time ago.
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:51:04
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however, all that said, the music is too simplistic in this song...
the C C/B Am gig is a bit too easy and very unlike Frank's other stuff...
Usually his chord progressions are a bit askew and its difficult to find a pattern (listening) with only one or two listens (kingly cave, smoke up)... and when he does use simple progressions they're usually well disguised (out of state) etc.. but this song has nothing new musically on subsequent listens.... not talking lyrically here... I don't hate the song... but its a bit of a camp fire, grab the geetar, story tellin, full of woe and hard luck, and tin can of coffee and pan of beans type song on a warm summer sunset....
guess as he says he's better now at doing the more "formulaic" stuff....
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 11:03:56
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well here' s a bit of conjecture gathered from Kathryns "Tarot" suggestion, google death misfortune and tarot and you get this...
1. It can point to the death of somebody old or sick in the life of the questioner, but this is quite rare, and certainly never its only meaning.
2. At the very least, the card does point to dramatic changes in the offing. Since most people who ask questions or present issues, change is desirable. This change clears the way for a fresh start. It can even point to the end of an era leading to new experiences, including rebirth, like the Phoenix rising out of the ashes.
3. It can also indicate that an apparent misfortune will turn out to be blessing in disguise. This is the reason I always see the Death card as the Chinese symbol for crisis, which is a combination of two glyphs, one meaning danger and the other meaning opportunity. The danger element is not as strong as the opportunity aspect.
4. despair giving way to hope,
5. Loss of friendship or long-standing relationship.
6. Financial loss,
7. loss of home (rarely),
8. Use creative, active energy early or depression & lethargy might set in
9. Fear of losing what one has or has achieved, especially if the achievement is recent,
10. birth of a child
11. building of a home,
12. start of a new business
13. a relationship is going to come to an end (if it hasn't already), but your love for that person will continue. You will come to the full realization that your relationship, as you have known it, has come to an end . . . and it's over.
14. forget the past (or your lover) and all that was and try to rebuild your life
15. you will be overly concerned about what others think of you.
16. A new idea, plan, or action will be implemented (could be connected with your work), and/or you will want to move or relocate
17. a slight delay in travel plans
18. Happiness will come through good friends and reuniting with those who have been absent. Someone is about to go out of your life temporarily
so what do you think, is Frank a tarot kinda guy?
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Jordo
- FB Fan -
USA
98 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 11:26:07
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lonely pursuader -- I agree... A lot of SMYT is like how you describe. More generic chord progressions, country and blues kinda stuff. That's mainly my only problem with the album, which I like a lot. (My favorite songs are "The Snake" "Massif Centrale" "Coastline" and "Manitoba")
So yeah, the music writing isnt as twisted...Frank says in interviews hes had no formal training and thats why the chord progressions are always weird... but this does sound like the one album where he put the chords together based on some studied stuff.
Jordan
my music! my music!
www.jordancooperLaLaLa.com
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 11:50:26
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He mentions Tarot in Honeycomb, in I Burn Today.
So he's at least aware of it.
(kittie, weren't you going to do a reading for me, like,
moooonths ago? greedy me)
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 12:02:41
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quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
maybe the curve is scoliosis
cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation
Osteoperosis perhaps???
I'd go with the scythe methinks.
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 13:24:28
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If Frank had used "duck" to rhyme with "luck", he could have made "back" rhyme with "quack".
Just my 2 cents.
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 13:25:46
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Osteoperosis is a wearing down of the joints, scoliosis (which I may have spelt wrong) is curvature of the spine.
I have spent many 12 hour shifts sat through a straightening operation, big hole, big big hole.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 13:29:48
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Denis, it may be time to let go of this and take
some deep breaths.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 14:29:14
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I thought osteoperosis was a lack of calcium resulting in brittle bones,
which after years can result in curvature of the spine.
I'm still voting scythe here though.
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/15/2005 : 15:01:31
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quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten
maybe the curve is scoliosis
Sounds more like a case of kyphosis to me.
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-
United Kingdom
6370 Posts |
Posted - 03/15/2005 : 15:13:24
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carolynanna! forgive me! i've arthritis on tha brain (spent the last few days preparing an arthritis presentation for today) and i got mixed up, i am a dolt.
(i admit i had to look kyphosis up, and then scoliosis to make sure i wasn't wrong... woo that late night paranoid feeling)
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 03/16/2005 : 03:26:36
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quack with back, villande, is good...
and ya, jordo, you notice the simplicity of the song when ya pick up the guitar at home and have a go... all very simple little ditties, compare them to kingly cave or the swimmer where there's some seriously cool chord changes....
anyways, SMYT still gets the thumps up....
back to topic....
starmekitten, your a star for correcting the spelling in the song (your good work has not gone un-noticed)...
this song seems to have very little research involved think it's just about beautiful day... or maybe he's having a go at U2....????
It’s a beautiful day (don't let it get away).....(what a corny line bono)
No, it’s a horrible day....
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 04:40:57
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quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
Jop, how do you know that Jean didn't like that? What's your
source. (I ask, not in an obnoxious, challenging way but
with curiosity.)
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics
haha, don't be afraid to attack me kathy,
no I read it in an article or on this forum
maybe he said it at a solo-concert
you know
this isn't new
people must know this
I just reproduce
I don't have a secret source
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Horrible day....
