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SHAZEB ANDLEEB
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Saint Kitts and Nevis
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 Posted - 03/11/2005 : 18:59:15
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I know that Cobain listened and liked the Pixies, but I defy you to show me anything in a Nirvana song that sounds anything like a Pixies song. I don't hear one damn thing. To me, Nirvana sounds like earl Replacements.
hermaphroditos is my name
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Sharpe_01
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 01:49:18
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Not so much the melodies as the use of dynamics. Meaning quiet parts of songs followed by really loud parts followed by quiet parts. A lot of songs on Nevermind had quiet verse, followed by loud chorus with distorted guitars, back into quiet verse. Then think about certain Pixies songs "Tame","All over the World" etc. Similar in songwriting.
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 02:48:08
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all apologies - "all in all is all we all are"
levitate me - "if all and all is true".
come on?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 03:20:45
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they got a ranch theyCALL! NUMBER FIFTY ONE!
that kinda dynamics
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2005 : 06:48:38
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| Smells Like Teen Spirit is a clear rip-off of U-Mass (Chorus Riff)....this is pretty much agreed upon by most people in the Forum and many others. |
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SHAZEB ANDLEEB
- FB Fan -
Saint Kitts and Nevis
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 07:15:29
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They can agree on that, but they are wrong. Nirvana is more steeped in hard rock of the 1980s. The Pixies were more "new wave" influence, kind of like The Cars on acid.
hermaphroditos is my name
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 09:13:03
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I think 'Rock Music' could fit on 'In Utero'.
Don't get me wrong, the best 'In Utero' track is at least 10 times worst than 'Rock Music'. And yeah, Nevermind has a Pixiesque reminiscence.
The violet, the lily and the pink but those I refused all three |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 12:40:27
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quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis
Smells Like Teen Spirit is a clear rip-off of U-Mass (Chorus Riff)....this is pretty much agreed upon by most people in the Forum and many others.
Here's a good time to laugh at the many who agree with this.
Nevermind (where "Smells Like Teen Spirit" can be found, of course) was released on September 24, 1991. And I believe a much earlier version is found on that box set that came out last year.
The Pixies' Trompe le Monde (where "U-Mass" can be found) was released on October 8, 1991. |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 03/12/2005 : 13:29:41
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2005 : 14:25:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis
Smells Like Teen Spirit is a clear rip-off of U-Mass (Chorus Riff)....this is pretty much agreed upon by most people in the Forum and many others.
Here's a good time to laugh at the many who agree with this.
Nevermind (where "Smells Like Teen Spirit" can be found, of course) was released on September 24, 1991. And I believe a much earlier version is found on that box set that came out last year.
The Pixies' Trompe le Monde (where "U-Mass" can be found) was released on October 8, 1991.
Did you know that the Pixies played U-Mass live since 1989? Did you know that? Did You?
...well then, you are just a laughing fool...arent ya? |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/13/2005 : 18:01:41
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quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis
Did you know that the Pixies played U-Mass live since 1989? Did you know that? Did You?
...well then, you are just a laughing fool...arent ya?
I did not know that. Can you point to any documentation of this?
Not for the sake of an argument, but just for my own curiousity.
Unless you're kidding. |
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2005 : 03:34:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis
Did you know that the Pixies played U-Mass live since 1989? Did you know that? Did You?
...well then, you are just a laughing fool...arent ya?
I did not know that. Can you point to any documentation of this?
Not for the sake of an argument, but just for my own curiousity.
Unless you're kidding.
I was kidding, but the point is, you cant say that the release date of albums has anything to do with it (especially when the dates are so close together, and the Pixies really did have a tendency to play new song long before they were released, Frank Black did this also) |
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Chris Fabulous
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Posted - 03/14/2005 : 14:49:37
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I think all the stuff Nirvana's most known for (the power-pop, screamy, quiet/loud stuff, not the Sabbath-riffing stuff that's on all of their studio albums but Nevermind) sounds like a pale imitation of the Pixies. Cobain never had the songwriting chops to match Frank, but he tried. For example, "On a Plain" or "Breed." I can hear it in the melodic structure and especially the arrangements on these really clearly. Also, "Tourettes" always reminded me nonspecifically of the Pixies. I mean, it's just a wild, loose punk song, but the way Cobain does the vocals is a dead-on Frank imitation. And I think "Smells Like Teen Spirit" is the most obvious example. I mean, if you don't hear it there, you won't hear it anywhere.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/15/2005 : 10:53:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Jason
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis
Smells Like Teen Spirit is a clear rip-off of U-Mass (Chorus Riff)....this is pretty much agreed upon by most people in the Forum and many others.
Here's a good time to laugh at the many who agree with this.
Nevermind (where "Smells Like Teen Spirit" can be found, of course) was released on September 24, 1991. And I believe a much earlier version is found on that box set that came out last year.
The Pixies' Trompe le Monde (where "U-Mass" can be found) was released on October 8, 1991.
I was just gonna point this out myself. Well done. Carry on.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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BPrend
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 20:10:54
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| i thought kurt had said it was a rip off of gouge away. slts sounds more like that to me. i don't think it sounds like u mass at all. |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 03/16/2005 : 21:03:11
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SHAZEB ANDLEEB
- FB Fan -
Saint Kitts and Nevis
145 Posts |
Posted - 03/21/2005 : 15:37:41
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I will say again, The Pixies sounded like The Cars on acid! You know, you know you know!? Do you, do you ,do you?
hermaphroditos is my name
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
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Posted - 03/21/2005 : 16:25:37
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| Smells like teen spirit sort of has a recemblance to Debaser, guitar rythm-wise. |
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
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Posted - 03/21/2005 : 17:15:12
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Smells Like Teen Spirit, in terms of song structure, parallels "gigantic". Quiet verse, builds up in the pre-chorus, and a great big loud chorus.
Melody is similar as well. "Hey paul, hey paul, hey paul" is kind of like "hello, hello, hello".
It really does not matter to me, though. Nevermind is a great album. As are all the Pixies albums. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/21/2005 : 17:34:05
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| Some of the songs on Nevermind and In Utero have a bit of a Pixies flavour, not really Bleach though; apart from the odd dynamic chord stucture, it's very 70's sludge-grunge-I remember KC talking about how he went in that direction because they were signed to Sub Pop, or something! |
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olympus mons
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/22/2005 : 03:51:40
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Is it just me or does the main riff from aneurysm sound a little bit like Cactus?
into the mountains i will fall. |
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 03/22/2005 : 07:30:45
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how did i miss this post for so long? oh thats right, because there have been 500 of them. moved to the appropriate section
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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Posted - 03/22/2005 : 07:53:47
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quote:
Originally posted by olympus mons
Is it just me or does the main riff from aneurysm sound a little bit like Cactus?
into the mountains i will fall.
Eh |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 03/22/2005 : 10:23:37
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quote:
Originally posted by SHAZEB ANDLEEB
I will say again, The Pixies sounded like The Cars on acid! You know, you know you know!? Do you, do you ,do you?
hermaphroditos is my name
worship me
I kinda think the PIXIES sound like the effect acid would have on cars...corrosive, cancerous, and mesmerizing.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/22/2005 : 11:41:29
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quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face
how did i miss this post for so long? oh thats right, because there have been 500 of them. moved to the appropriate section
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
I know, I think there probably should be a ban on them now.
Hansel and Gretel have formed a band, .....And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Breadcrumbs!!!
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olympus mons
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/23/2005 : 04:45:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Carl
quote:
Originally posted by olympus mons
Is it just me or does the main riff from aneurysm sound a little bit like Cactus?
into the mountains i will fall.
Eh
ok i know it's played with diffront chords, what i meant to say was, the quiet/muted then loud/open part of aneurysm (come on over and do the twist)resembles cactus, a little.
into the mountains i will fall. |
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charlesthompson
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Luxembourg
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Posted - 03/23/2005 : 06:37:59
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..kurt cobain said himself that smells like teen spirit was a pixies rip off..most of us seem to agree that it sounds like u-mass/debaser (including me) and some of us agree that it sounds like "more than a feeling" (which i agree with aswell) but if you read the interview with kurt about the practice where they wrote the song then they even admit too having ripped off the pixies....
i do thik some nirvana songs sound a lot like the pixies but nirvavan have a lot of depressive stuff too...(a lot of depressive stuff)
i think only the more comercialised of songs (the stuff on the best of) sound pixie-ish...if you listen to songs like "hard long now" (is that what its called; i keep on forgetting) then its a completely different nirvana
but thats only my opinion |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 03/23/2005 : 12:05:25
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| teen spirit is not a rip off of u-mass. it's just another 4 chord riff, easy enough. |
Edited by - PixieSteve on 03/23/2005 12:06:07 |
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SHAZEB ANDLEEB
- FB Fan -
Saint Kitts and Nevis
145 Posts |
Posted - 03/23/2005 : 19:35:46
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Why is everybody in here talking about the Nirvana? This is a Pixies site! GEEZ! Oh yeah. I started it.
hermaphroditos is my name
worship me |
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IS
- FB Fan -
Canada
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Posted - 03/23/2005 : 19:47:03
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| Check out the Pixies cover of "Wild Honey Pie" by the Beatles and you could probably see the resemblance in Cobain/Thompson's voice. At least I think of Cobain when I hear it, or at least the Thompson influence in his screaming. |
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 03/23/2005 : 23:32:20
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Smells like teen spirit is exactly the same as the song i think its called-"Godzilla X" he wrote it in his journals and there are a few more
The Truth Is Out There |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 08:14:07
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Talk about beating a dead horse...
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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Black_francis_
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 11:23:41
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quote:
Originally posted by PixieSteve
teen spirit is not a rip off of u-mass. it's just another 4 chord riff, easy enough.
well said
'A wishing well of well wishing' |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 11:31:18
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quote:
Originally posted by SHAZEB ANDLEEB
Why is everybody in here talking about the Nirvana? This is a Pixies site!
No! this is a Frank Black site. But I know what you mean
This is a Pixies site |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2005 : 15:18:32
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I once visited a Nirvana site and thought it was a Pixies site!!( )
Congrats on your 1000th post, FBC.
Carlos.
 "Join up, conform and wear a different uniform!"
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SHAZEB ANDLEEB
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Saint Kitts and Nevis
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Posted - 03/24/2005 : 15:25:05
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I once went to a Cars on acid site and thought it was a Pixies site and then later, a Nirvana site. Congratulate me on my 67th post.
hermaphroditos is my name
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I don't hear any Pixies in Nirvana
