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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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 Posted - 02/11/2005 : 09:04:16
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I think its fairly important.
I don't mean that someone has to have the same tastes as I do. But to be honest I think that when people solely listen to the radio or top 40, its very telling about their character. Or if someone who listens to that type of stuff tells me my music is crap, then I'm a little annoyed.
Most of my friends listen to what I consider crap and it is slightly straining in the fact that we don't really go to the pubs I'd like to and I have to find some other people to go to gigs with and it makes for really horrible road trips....But I love'em anyway.
With my hubby, I like some of the stuff he listens to and vice versa, but we don't really diss eachother's stuff too much so its alright.
What do you think?
Is it important?
Can you judge someone by their musical tastes?
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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speedy_m
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 09:10:22
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| Let me guess Carolyn, your friends drag you to Stoli's and the Iron Horse a lot? Well, Stoli's used to be somewhat decent (pre-fire) and the Iron Horse can be fun (cute beer tub girl). My sister (and anyone I tell this to) admonishes me for wanting a relationship with someone who has good musical taste. Like you, I don't think identical tastes are required, but if they're into crap, it's a huge turn off. Taste is one thing, but I want a music LOVER, because I'm going to be listening to/talking about music constantly, and if they can't keep up, it probably won't work. |
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 09:16:18
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My husband is the first man I've had a relationship with who I didn't get together with because of shared music tastes.
He does think that alot of what I listen to is "self indulgent fucking noise" - having said that I have switched him onto a couple of bands that he would normally shy away from. I think it's interesting how certain people can open you up to a different style of music or something you previously wouldn't consider. I don't think it's right to judge someone on their musical tastes, but I know I'm guilty of it sometimes. I do think I've got a better chance of getting on with someone if we share tastes though.
I'd be safe and warm if I was in L.A
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 09:23:06
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Nah speedy, its always the goddamned Urban Lounge, ugh.
And good point about being a music lover as opposed to specific tastes.
Anyhoo, if someone only listens to music that's on the radio or top 40, doesn't it show that they simply accept what they're given, a sheep mentality kind of dealie, okay someone express what I'm trying to say plz...
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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frank black conspiracy
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 09:55:11
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
Anyhoo, if someone only listens to music that's on the radio or top 40, doesn't it show that they simply accept what they're given, a sheep mentality kind of dealie, okay someone express what I'm trying to say plz...
here in england, these are the folk who buy ripped jeans for £120 pounds where as we have ripped jeans because they're old.
Top 40 dominates our papers, tv, radio, fashion and anything else the people who work to party on a friday night bar crawling, dancing to pop, pinching my girlfriends ass and generally posing like a prat seem to enjoy.
They all look the same. Don't they realise?
Anyone remember those damn white collar and cuff shirts too?
Our society, my generation are both label mad and top 40 junkies. To them, this is the only music. Real music.
Music is kinda important in a relationship with me.
Like you Carolynanna, i'm surrounded by 'top 40-can't-think-for-myself-for-fear-of-being-mocked' label junkied sheep. and some are my friends.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 09:59:55
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All of these comments express how I feel. if I see a young woman with a Fendi bag I'm turned off. If they can afford it fine I guess but people that can't really afford it but go and get one anyway... It just says a lot about their character. they want people to think they have money or everyone else is gettin fendi's so they must too.
Musically I ALWAYS judge people by what they listen to. And I've always been right. Now if they don't listen to the same stuff as me that can be okay, just come up with something good. A few years back I went out with this one girl who was 19. She listened to Frank Sinatra. 19 listening to Sinatra. I can't really say anything about that. It's not my type of music but it said something about her personality. She was very unique.
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frank black conspiracy
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:10:28
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So true KoK.
Maybe i'm wrong being so judgemental, but I really do believe you can tell so much about a person by their taste in music.
Not whether they're a good or bad person. Music means so much to me, i've studied it and worshipped like a religion. So much so you get to realise common traits in people just by their choice of tune.
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:13:34
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I must agree with you Carolyn, I think that your musical taste defines a lot of your character. My husband and I used to have the same musical taste, these days he likes some of my music but he's just not as interested in music as I am, he has other interests. But we still share it and I think I would go crazy if he didn't liked my music at all!
P.S. Great topic!
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:16:02
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And what about people that just aren't that into music...
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:17:37
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Those people Carolyn, must have a very sad life!
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:20:16
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i admit, a girls taste in music is one of the first things i'm curious about. it seems to tell a lot about a person. but, i don't only go for girls who have the exact same taste. especially if they're really cute.
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kathryn
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:40:12
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I have a friend who is not into food. Seriously! She will go a couple
of days at a time without eating and then only eats only because
she has to. She's one of my oldest, best-est friends and you guys
would love her. Anyway. I think that's weird about her, the same way
I think it's outlandish when people say they're not into music. However,
those people who "aren't into" music aren't as freakin' obnoxious
as the Top 40 lemmings. I agree with everything you guys are saying and
I will admit to being totally prejudiced. Someone's musical taste does say volumes (no pun intended) about them. I don't think I would have given
my husband a second look if he wasn't into the Smiths and New Order
and Joy Division and the Clash and Bronski Beat and Echo (in the early 80s, when we were in college together).
Conversely, when I find out that someone likes Frank, I work reeeeeeeeally
hard to control myself and seem like a normal person and not jump up and down and hug them and squeal "yay! yay!"
Like Rita said, great topic.
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:02:50
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I think I can say I'm fairly obsessed with music. However, my personal experience seems to be that shared music tastes, while certainly a bonus, are not essential to a succesful relationship.
To be fair, my wife is not really interested in music at all. She can go for months without listening to anything.
And no, she's not sad at all.
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:03:16
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So, what to think about rap and hip-hop fans? It amazes me that some people here, as well as others with otherwise decent taste, can find anything in it. What am I missing? Is it the rappin' lyrics, the "poetry" as it were? Or the complex rhythms (and the dancing)? The rhythm I can understand as being worthwhile, but the lyrics and especially the usual 'tude prevent me from accessing what I could like about it. I find the sociopolitical commentary to be shallow. I understand there are instrumental hip-hop acts, and I suppose I could listen to that, but the attraction really isn't that great.
Whenever I see somebody getting into this stuff I just don't get it. It's tempting to judge them to be morons, but they can't all be morons, right? Can anybody help me out with this? |
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floop
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:13:42
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i hear you erebus. i have fairly wide musical tastes. especially as i get older.. but i'm really not into hip hop / global / trance / afro-beat / electro whatever... i have nothing against it, and i can admit there have been a few times i've been somewhere and a dj is spinning something (from that genre) and i'll be like, "that's pretty cool. i could listen to that".. but generally (can of worms opening up) i don't have as much respect for that genre, as music. i'm just more into the live music thing. i guess i'm old fashioned that way.
but yeah, if i i meet a girl who's reeeeallly into hip hop, to me that's a signal right there that we probably wouldn't be a fit. because i don't care how hot you are, you won't see me on a dance floor pumping my hand in the air.
i will say though, one thing i like about he hip hop "scene" (as opposed to other scenes) is that it's a pretty peaceful one. and generally, very multi-cultural.. if you go to a Stephen Malkmus show, 97% of the audience will be young, white, indie kids.
but, i digress
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kathryn
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:18:33
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Erebus, it's like this: rap is crap.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:21:58
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I think similar taste in music is important, but it's not always necessary. I do think it would be difficult for me to be in a relationship where the other person wasn't into at least some of the same stuff. Similar interests in general are important, after all. Fortunately, I knew my girlfriend liked my favorite band, since we met through a mailing list for fans of theirs.
I'm not the biggest rap/hip-hop fan, but some of it is all right. I really don't like to judge music based on genre.
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:22:37
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Originally posted by Carolynanna
Nah speedy, its always the goddamned Urban Lounge, ugh.
Anyhoo, if someone only listens to music that's on the radio or top 40, doesn't it show that they simply accept what they're given, a sheep mentality kind of dealie, okay someone express what I'm trying to say plz...
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Godfather of nothing, ancesters of none.
Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
i'm in the minority here, but i do not think music taste is that important. people's tastes will always evolve and change over time, and i beleive that most people simply don't know where/how to find good new music, so they resort to top 40. and i guess some people JUST LIKE top 40. would i choose to listen to it, ever? NO! but i have a lot of friends whose musical tastes i absolutely don't get. i'm slowly winning my girlfriend over with good music (conquests so far: new pornographers, they might be giants, "here comes your man"), but our relationship is based on so much more than our record collections.
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If you move I shoots!
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starmekitten
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:24:21
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I have no close friends that aren't into music, come to think about it I have no close friends whos music tastes don't overlap with mine in at least one of my radiating musical circles, I have never 'dated' anyone with vastly different music tastes always in the same genre usually different bands because the learning thing is fun. My friends are as diverse as you like in all other aspects of life but not music, it's our common denominator.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 11:33:35
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Erebus,
I think that there are images and ideals within the Hop Hop genre that you may not be aware of or interested in. I also think it depends on what you are listening to? The kind of Hip Hip and Rap that you are being exposed to. There are artists such as Q Tip, Urban Dub, the phoenix project and so many others that are different from the mainstream, "in-your-face" Hip Hop that is offered to the masses. If you go to http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/ I think you will see the vastness of this culture.
I don't particularily like the cowboy hat and shiny silver belt buckle wearing persona of Frank Black's and I think he looks like a moron dressed like that but, there is something more to him if you allow yourself the patience to listen.
Hopefully the people being turned onto Hip Hop will find the value that is there. Not only what is being served to them.
As far as music defining characteristics. I always ask someone what their preference in music is when I first meet them upon entering the program that I run. Not sure what it is worth but it gives me a better sense of who they are.
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All of a sudden my water broke!
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 12:48:44
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For me it's just not easy to like some kind of music, like rap or hip hop, anyway I think that as I'm getting older I'm also getting more selective but at the same time more tolerant, so with my friends, and most of them can't understand my musical taste, I just don't even try to explain them or to try to "educate" them.
Because I respect it, as long as they respect me!
Jediroler, that was just my opinion, it's very good to know that some people live their lives together and they don't share their music.
For me music is so important that I connect a lot of my most happy moments with it.
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
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stymie
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 13:04:49
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 15:54:53
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Erebus,
I think that there are images and ideals within the Hop Hop genre that you may not be aware of or interested in. I also think it depends on what you are listening to? The kind of Hip Hip and Rap that you are being exposed to. There are artists such as Q Tip, Urban Dub, the phoenix project and so many others that are different from the mainstream, "in-your-face" Hip Hop that is offered to the masses. If you go to http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/ I think you will see the vastness of this culture.
I don't particularily like the cowboy hat and shiny silver belt buckle wearing persona of Frank Black's and I think he looks like a moron dressed like that but, there is something more to him if you allow yourself the patience to listen.
Hopefully the people being turned onto Hip Hop will find the value that is there. Not only what is being served to them.
As far as music defining characteristics. I always ask someone what their preference in music is when I first meet them upon entering the program that I run. Not sure what it is worth but it gives me a better sense of who they are.
Thanks Brendan. I'll check out that site when I get some time clear. Sorry about the "moron" stuff. It's just perplexing. Obviously there are some talented artists and fans. Sometimes I fear I'm just showing my age, much as the oldsters rejected rock in the 50's and 60's. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/12/2005 : 01:49:11
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/12/2005 : 01:49:48
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actually make that 4.5
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mun chien andalusia
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Posted - 02/12/2005 : 03:41:29
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i 'm with broken face on this. music isn't that important. when i was younger i thought that everybody had a music taste good or bad so i tried to choose my relationships by music preferences. growing i found out that the music maniacs are pretty few and that actually most people don't care about what they listen to. said that i prefer people that don't care about music to people that have a horrible taste and defend it. nowadays i can talk about music only here and with my brother. all my friends have abbandoned long time ago and my gf though pretty open to new stuff is not that interested.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 10:39:21
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I wouldn't like to say for sure until I had been in a relationship with someone who is not into my kind of music at all. I have yet to experience this. I guess I haven't so far 'cos I hang around with people who like the same kind of music as me. It's a common bond that we all have. I also only really go out to places that play our kind of music, so the only place I would meet someone who isn't into my kind of music would be at work really, and at the moment I have no job.
I could go into this more but it's just pure speculation until I actually try a relationship with someone who is into music I don't like (or not at all).
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 13:39:44
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I wouldn't like to say for sure until I had been in a relationship with someone who is not into my kind of music at all. I have yet to experience this. I guess I haven't so far 'cos I hang around with people who like the same kind of music as me. It's a common bond that we all have. I also only really go out to places that play our kind of music, so the only place I would meet someone who isn't into my kind of music would be at work really, and at the moment I have no job.
I could go into this more but it's just pure speculation until I actually try a relationship with someone who is into music I don't like (or not at all).
Love, love, my season
You are really lucky! if I had a group of friends that were into the same music as myself I'd probably be married by now. I had a group like that in Andover when I was about seventeen, but growing up, none of my friends from Lowell liked my music much. At sixteen I was walking around with "Elvis Costello Rules!" on my book covers while everyone else had "Ozzie rules!" or Iron Maiden or some CRAP. The group I hung out with (which to be honest was very trying at times) would get stoked when Tesla came on. I managed to get some people into The Cult, then they changed their style (Once again) and became mainstream. All of a sudden all the spandex cheesballs started going to the shows. As a kid I lived in California and all was good for a while then I ended up in Lowell MA. It's very blue collar, kind of thuggy / druggy. Back then (for them) the style was burn out with leather vests. Everyone used to hang out at the arcade or the basketball court where everyone sold weed. Bunch of losers really. I look back at those days and thank God I didn't end up as big a loser as some of those guys were, and still are today. I remember them making fun of my Echo and the Bunnymen then later liking Hootie and the Blowfish. Man, what a bunch of losers! Thank God I'm out of that hell hole and have some depth to my personality. With those people what you see is what you get. Which sadly, isn't much.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 13:46:24
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Hey KoK, you're welcome to come and hang out with me and my friends anytime. We go to loads of live gigs, we're very very funny, and rather easy on the eye too.
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:07:05
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Okay!
Can you loan me the gas money?
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:15:05
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No problem. We are going to another gig tomorrow night if you can make it for then? Or are you on a date with your new beau?
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:19:44
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Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey
No problem. We are going to another gig tomorrow night if you can make it for then? Or are you on a date with your new beau?
Love, love, my season
It's a SHE funny man, and SHE'S not new. She's about fifty. She's been around a while.
It's your granny remember? in fact she's gonna give me the money for petrol so expect your allowance to be a bit short this week.
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starmekitten
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:34:57
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in fact she's gonna give me the monet for petrol so expect your allowance to be a bit short this week.
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The King Of Karaoke
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:36:41
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I corrected it. Nyeah, nyeah!
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starmekitten
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:38:50
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boring!
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Homers_pet_monkey
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Posted - 02/13/2005 : 14:59:37
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Oh yeah I forgot that beau is for a bloke. DOH!
You see I wasn't trying to be funny. If I was, you'd be in stitches.
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How Important is Music in Relationships
