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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 01/21/2005 : 23:56:49
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Like most 16 years olds my daughters view of music is a very blinkered one sided one. She likes rock, but not old classic rock, but thats not what this thread is about.
She does not like in any way shape or form black music, black like barry white is not white like frank black is. For a while I have been putting a compilation together to broaden her horizons but I would appreciate some suggestions. Please then, suggest records, songs by black artists.
Thank you.
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“I want to be a star!” I cried
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 00:06:33
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She doesn't likes only because they are black?
Did you tried James Brown? My son likes it, who doesn't?
Purify the colors, purify my mind,
and spread the ashes of the colors
over this heart of mine!
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 00:09:28
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black music means nothing to her, she lives in a house where soul and jazz has been played a lot and it meant nothing, it is of course mtv's fault, they have no problem playing interesting and diverse rock on the likes of mtv2 but mtv base play generic soul and hip hop, and that has unfortunately helped form her opinion.
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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?” |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 08:38:38
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Temptations? Any of the Mo-Town groups? Hmm...there's always good old fashioned blues. Don't forget the Funkadelic. They rocked. (I prefer Funkadelic to Parliament-Funkadelic, personally.)
There would be no Rock and Roll if it weren't for the blues and jazz created by the black men. They are rock's roots. The foundation.
Animals think...They're pretty smart!
Shit on the ground...See in the dark! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 09:15:58
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Yeah, how about some John Lee Hooker or something along those lines?
Sly and the Family Stone I like, Hendrix, also how about some reggae or African music?
I don't know if this is relevant, but I guess 'rock' music has for so long been very much white dominated, how about some black rock, if I can phrase it that way. I'm not neccessarily thinking Living Colour, but Bad Brains spring to mind, and current bands like Bloc Party and TV On The Radio.
And if a double-decker bus
Crashes into us
To die by your side
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 09:26:08
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I second the TV on the Radio nomination. If you are trying to meet her halfway, perhaps it would be best to try and introduce her to more modern rock performed by black musicians like these guys.
I will never say the word procrastinate again, I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 10:21:58
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Public Enemy. NWA.
Go straight for the jugular!
Seriously though, probably only time will be able to change her attitude, and even that may not work.
I know people who still don't like black music. I assume we are talking about music that black people dominate such as rap and soul, and not black rock stars too? If you talking black rock stars too then the easiest way to bridge the gap would be through Jimi.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 10:30:04
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What do you mean by "black music"? Music performed by
people who happen to be of African descent? God, I hope
I'm not sounding unbearably PC here. I am just wondering.
Obviously, there is a lot of ground to cover...everything from the
aforementioned groups to old Ska, Jamaican dub, Billie Holliday
to Lionel Richie. Lots of great stuff to choose from (I am a HUGE
Lionel Richie fan. Mock me if you must!).
Good luck. You should be able to find something.
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 10:42:42
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quote:
Originally posted by kathryn
(I am a HUGE
Lionel Richie fan. Mock me if you must!).
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
Oh, I must...
PPPPPPPLLLLLLLBBBBBBBBBBBBBB!!!!!!!!..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...COUGH*SNORT...HAHAHAHAHABHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Oh Kay, you slay me! You're a caution woman... Lionel Richie. Ooohh my. Ha, ha, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! COUGH* *COUGH* COUGH. Oh goodness. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 10:46:17
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Hendrix, TV On The Radio, Sly & The Family Stone, Marvin Gaye
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 10:46:29
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Is this new news to you KoK? I have heard her mention it once, twice, three times before.
Love, love, my season |
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1887 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 11:12:50
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You say she's familiar w/jazz ..that drained most of my suggestions.
I second Parliament. (Mothership Connection and/or Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome)
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 11:14:44
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Like I said, go ahead and mock.
This is the man who sang "Brickhouse," KOK. "Brickhouse."
Oh, what a feeling when we're dancing on the ceiling.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 11:18:54
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Certain death if you do it too long I should imagine. Not very wise of you Lionel.
Love, love, my season |
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The King Of Karaoke
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
3759 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 11:20:56
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None of that matters because he spawned this annoying waste of atomic matter.
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 12:33:37
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she hates soul, jazz, hip hop, rnb, funk, ska, reggae. She hates music of black origin. Hendrix wouldnt get a listen in as he isnt modern rock.
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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?” |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 13:12:48
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Forget it then, you've lost her.
Love, love, my season |
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 13:46:54
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thats the whole point of the compilation though, to get her.
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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?” |
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1887 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 13:46:55
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She hates funk?
How the funk can someone hate fuck?
Take a bite of the chocolate coffin. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 14:35:00
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Get a new daughter.
And if a double-decker bus
Crashes into us
To die by your side
Well, the pleasure and the privilege is mine. |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 14:52:04
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I know Domstiques but you are saying that she won't even listen to any. If she won't listen, how do you expect her to change?
Love, love, my season |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 18:10:42
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Well, I would ask her why she doesn't like Afriacan American preformers.
Then,I would tell her although she likes white preformers-- all the music that you mentioned truly has roots with people of African Ancestry, so in fact, she does like African American music-- even though it's not preformed by African Americans.
Then I would just let her listen to the music she wants-- as long as she's not a racist, I would just let her do her thing. It's her loss. Maybe it's her way of rebeling and making a big deal about it isn't going to help things.
Good luck Dom. It's really refeshing to hear a parent care so much about their child!!!  |
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2005 : 19:53:08
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Daisy has a point there. I can tell you, from the perspective of being a sixteen year old myself, that no matter how much I might enjoy something, if my parents force it on me I very often will make a big point of saying that I dislike it. Couldn't tell you why, I wouldn't call it rebelling; perhaps its just me being difficult. Allow her to discover it for herself maybe. Perhaps by forcing this magic box, as you call it, on her, you're just making situations worse. Then again, it might just be me.
Oh, and if you do go the route of the box set, maybe some old ska like Kathryn said. Some first wave, like the Skatalites, or some second wave like the Specials. Not being a huge ska fan myself, I still enjoy this stuff a lot; the reggae influence is very apparent.
I will never say the word procrastinate again, I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed. |
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Perk
- FB Fan -
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 20:05:19
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Jackie Wilson - Reet Petite or Baby Work out will
make her dance !
Don't sweat the petty things
and don't pet the sweaty things |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 21:07:14
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I didn't listen to Radiohead cause my mom loved them. Then I moved out and listened to OK Computer and fell in love.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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Elephant
- FB Fan -
Canada
240 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2005 : 21:07:33
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quote:
Originally posted by ObfuscateByWill
She hates funk?
How the funk can someone hate fuck?
Take a bite of the chocolate coffin.
Ha ha ha, oh my heavenly lord Jesus... that's some good stuff right there.
I would say that nice John Hendrix gentleman, or James Brown. I can't understand how you couldn't like James Brown... even after the entier wife beating thing or whatever, like... come on, even after all those pictures of him drunken and disorintated with messy hair, like... come on. |
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 01/23/2005 : 00:18:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Daisy Girl
Well, I would ask her why she doesn't like Afriacan American preformers.
Is a black european called a African European?
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Seal is black. African to boot.
Have her listen to "Don't Cry"
That's a nice song.
Take a bite of the chocolate coffin. |
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2005 : 00:27:40
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To my daughter hip hop is because I got high, so I have gone for the middle ground and put California uber alles by the disposable heroes, to her soul is Puff Daddy so I have put these arms of mine by otis redding, to her funk, jazz, soul are all alien, so I have family affair, I have say a little prayer, renegades of funk. There is a glimmer of light poking through though. Her boyfriend is a real music fan, he does her compilations and to broaden her mind he has starting to put things like kelis, and the beastie boys on CD's he does for her.
One final note, and please those with a nervous disposition turn away now. Some time back I was playing Whats going on, the marvin gaye album and she said this rubbish can go off.
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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?” |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2005 : 14:05:43
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| Keep up the good fight D! |
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