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simibaby
= Cult of Ray =
405 Posts |
 Posted - 12/16/2004 : 02:58:15
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| Was he born in Boston, raised in Cali, then went to school in Boston or what? Thanx! |
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 03:16:09
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 05:40:39
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in a cabbage?
Denis
"I believe in your perfect face..." |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 06:52:37
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On a beach.
In a town.
Where I am going to live.
Pack all my shit, get on a plane
Follow the sunset for 24 hours |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 07:53:59
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St. Elizabeth's Hospital, Brighton, MA. Brighton is part of Boston.
"I finally got my turn down at St. Elizabeth's"
-- Pan American Highway
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 09:54:56
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Originally posted by floop
he was born in Long Beach, CA. didn't we already have this argument MrGrieves?
http://www.mp3.com/Frank-Black/artists/22463/biography.html
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
Frank disagrees. Listen to the BBC interview. He won't actually tell you where he was born, but he will deny Long Beach.
Unless you were joking, in which case, I'm an ass.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 09:58:33
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do you have a quote from it?
ever interview i've ever seen says the same thing.. i would think if the press had the wrong information, he, and or his management, would want to correct it..
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:08:07
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It's an audio interview. I'll look for it. Basically he was talking about how there's so much misinformation about him floating around and it drives him crazy. A few minutes later, the exchange went something like this:
BBC dude: "So Frank, you were born in Long Beach, California, and..."
Frank: "NO! I wasn't born in Long Beach, California! See? That's exactly what I'm talking about!"
It was a good interview, SMYT-era. Discussion of drunken-ness and crusty underwear, if I recall correctly.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:12:50
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then i could be wrong.. i'm not that closed minded..
my stance has always been: everything says Long Beach so i'm inclined to believe Long Beach. but maybe it's not Long Beach after all.
i don't think that song lyrics count as evidence though (which i believe is what Mr Grieves' argument hinges on, if i'm not mistaken)
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:25:14
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From the Boston Globe: January 21, 2001
“Frank Black, a.k.a. Black Francis, born Charles Thompson IV in Boston 35 years ago, takes the notion of his first band's impact on the course of popular music with a large grain of salt.”
Later: “Personal file Frank Black Born St. Elizabeth's Hospital, Brighton, April 6, 1965. Raised: Left for California when he was 3 months old, but shuttled between here and there several times during childhood. Name of first band White Stag, in third grade.”
From the Omaha World-Herald :September 26, 2004
“Black -- who was born Charles Thompson IV in Boston -- said he's looking forward to the Lincoln gig.”
From The Arkansas Democrat Gazette: December 1, 2002
“Black, 37, was born Charles Thompson in Boston. He issued his first solo album in 1993.”
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:28:50
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More from the Boston Globe: January 21, 2001
SIDEBAR: Personal file Frank Black Born St. Elizabeth's Hospital, Brighton, April 6, 1965.
Raised: Left for California when he was 3 months old, but shuttled between here and there several times during childhood.
Name of first band: White Stag, in third grade.
Where the name Frank Black, and its predecessor Black Francis, came from?: Not only did my father name me at birth, but when I entered the realm of entertainment, he named me as well. . . . Francis was my grandmother, and Black was a [family] surname back a hundred years or so. I believe they were criminals who escaped the noose and came to Maine.
How about the name the Pixies?: Joey Santiago was searching the dictionary in alphabetical fashion and was in the P’s. Before we were a real band, it was going to be Pixies in Panoply.
Favorite non- music pastime: Hiking. It's a resurrection. I used to enjoy it when I was a teenager, and then I stopped. But for the last six months, I do a lot of hiking in LA.
People's biggest misconception of him?: Probably that I'm an angry, moody person. I believe I'm more light- hearted and happy.
The one thing he wishes people would get right?: Caesar salad.
What do they get wrong?: Everything. It's just the most watered down, bastardized dish in mainstream American cuisine. It's a basic simple thing to make, and they get it wrong.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:30:21
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interesting..
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:32:56
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Well, I think the page is down. I thought I book marked it but it's nowhere to be found. This is pissing me off because I listened to it quite recently. However, I'm absolutely positive he insisted he was not from Long Beach but in fact moved there as a baby. I heard the man say it with my own two ears. The part that doesn't help anyones arguement is that he refused to say where he was born, even when pressed.
And I remember another part of the conversation - someone called in saying they remembered when he used to call himself Charles White before he changed his name(wtf), to which Frank responded (with trademark sarcastic attitude), "Yeah, Charles White from Long Beach."
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:33:29
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We´re always learning here, I didn't knew that he had a band called White Stag...in third grade? Thát's why he's a genious!
i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:35:08
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the thing that's important is that he came here immediately when he was a baby, proving that the West Coast rules..
west siiiiiiiiide!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:38:41
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| The thing about the 2001 Boston Globe article is that you can tell from all the hiking references and Caesar salad comments that the information is being given contemporaneously. Further, it says Brighton, not Boston. It just rings true to me that during the interview he stated that he was born in Brighton at St. E's. If you comb other articles, it will say Boston. |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:39:22
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Yes, but you still lose the trivia contest, floop, and that's what really matters.
Does anyone know the radio session I'm talking about? He played Manitoba and My Favorite Kiss, the English interviewer asked him why americans like therapy so much... ringing bells for anyone else?
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:42:46
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i haven't lost shit.
i disagree that most articles say Boston. do a search and see for yourself. everything says Long Beach.
if it's Boston, that's great. but thus far that has not been proven, as the man himself has neigher confirmed or denied it.
west siiiiiiiiiiiide!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:42:58
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Plus I got this from their website. Looks like the real deal. http://www.semc.org/home/default.asp
About Caritas St. Elizabeth’s:
In 1868, five laywomen members of the third order of St. Francis founded St. Elizabeth’s as a hospital dedicated to the care of women from Boston’s South End. They began to care for women in need, regardless of their ability to pay, regardless of their position in the community, regardless of the nature of their illness. As the hospital’s care expanded, it outgrew its South End facility, and in 1914, through the efforts of the Archdiocese of Boston, the hospital was established at its present location. Blck Franzes wuz burn here in 1965. he sings a song from a Brad Pit movie, you know , the fighting thing.
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:46:19
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Originally posted by floop
i disagree that most articles say Boston. do a search and see for yourself. everything says Long Beach.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
What I meant was, when an article says that Frank was born in Mass, it says Boston instead of Brighton. Brighton is a more specific term and leads me to believe that when he sat for the 2001 Boston Globe interview ( inaddition to talking about bad salads) he said he was born in Brighton. Just rings more true. |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:47:17
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Articles don't mean *makes jacking-off motion with hand*. And I never said he was from Boston. He could be from Alaska for all I know. But I DO know that Frank says he wasn't from Long Beach. You lose.
I think we're all trying much too hard, here. The obvious answer is that Frank was brought to California by the aliens when he was 3 earth months old.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 10:55:00
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
the thing that's important is that he came here immediately when he was a baby, proving that the West Coast rules..
west siiiiiiiiide!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
But didn't start to rock the world until he came back to Boston. Sounds like Cali was holding him back.
In all seriousness, does this really matter? Isn't this the equivalent of some George Clooney website arguing over where his favorite restaurant is? We have to relax. And I'm talking about myself here. |
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 11:15:17
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Originally posted by dayanara
Articles don't mean *makes jacking-off motion with hand*. And I never said he was from Boston. He could be from Alaska for all I know. But I DO know that Frank says he wasn't from Long Beach. You lose.
I think we're all trying much too hard, here. The obvious answer is that Frank was brought to California by the aliens when he was 3 earth months old.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank
until you can link the actual article where he says "i'm not from Long Beach" the verdict is still undecided
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 11:15:56
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quote:
Originally posted by mrgrieves1971
quote:
Originally posted by floop
the thing that's important is that he came here immediately when he was a baby, proving that the West Coast rules..
west siiiiiiiiide!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
But didn't start to rock the world until he came back to Boston. Sounds like Cali was holding him back.
In all seriousness, does this really matter? Isn't this the equivalent of some George Clooney website arguing over where his favorite restaurant is? We have to relax. And I'm talking about myself here.
i'm not opposed to arm wrestling over it. or, if need be, a cage match
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 11:22:49
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Originally posted by floop
until you can link the actual article where he says "i'm not from Long Beach" the verdict is still undecided
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
You callin me a liar, floop? I'm not opposed to flying out to California and breaking whatever the hell it is you cook your quesadillas in. Just so you know.
This would be an excellent question to ask The Man the next time he pops his head in. He probably wouldn't answer it, but it can't hurt to try.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 11:51:28
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i'd like to see you try dayanara
ps. i'd like to take the opportunity to point out that all of Frank's albums up to this time were, for the most part, written in Los Angeles California. West Coast. United States of America
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 12:43:01
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psychogroupie
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 13:17:06
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Pretty sure the interview was on bbc radio six, it may still be in the archive
My cats breath smells of catfood |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 18:38:02
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I think we're all trying much too hard, here. The obvious answer is that Frank was brought to California by the aliens when he was 3 earth months old.
Well, it WAS month number three...
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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broken part
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 19:26:09
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Originally posted by dayanara
Yes, but you still lose the trivia contest, floop, and that's what really matters.
Does anyone know the radio session I'm talking about? He played Manitoba and My Favorite Kiss, the English interviewer asked him why americans like therapy so much... ringing bells for anyone else?
If you really want to know, look in the Frank
It was BBC Radio 6 with Steve Lamacq. He also played an acoustic live solo minor chord version of Shrimp Song of wich I can proudly say I am in possesion of. |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 19:28:06
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So then you can back up my claims of the Long Beach birth denial? Not only can I not find it in the archives, I can't seem to find the archives at all.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
Edited by - dayanara on 12/16/2004 19:34:22 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 20:33:49
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pipe dreams
he was born in Long Beach
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 20:42:59
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You just wait, floop. You just wait.
If you really want to know, look in the Frank |
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 12/16/2004 : 20:45:31
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west siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide!!!!!!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Sam
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
514 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2004 : 23:47:32
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| Definetly Boston, in the Frank black francis press kit he says he took his guitar down the Gary Smiths appartment in Allston near the building in Boston he was BORN in. |
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Where Was Frank Born. Please?
