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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  03:12:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


They were talking about them in some newspapers because they are re-releasing Crooked Rain and it made me take out my Pavement records.

What a great band it was! One of my highschool favorites. Their attitude was so classy, their music so smart, their lyrics so funny. And they were not pretending to be rock stars.

I look at those new rock bands, the Strokes etc. All their albums put together are not worth one song by Pavement.


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gracie
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
573 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  04:27:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was listening to Slanted & Enchanted last night.
Pavement were such an excellent band, it's a shame they split up!

Stephen Malkmus's solo stuff is ok, but not as good as Pavement.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  04:55:44  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think SM solo is as good as pavement
altought I have to say that I don't own all the pavement albums
but soon I'll have a look at the bigger picture


"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!"
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *

South Africa
1264 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  05:39:51  Show Profile  Click to see offerw's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Pavement were incredible. Slanted & Enchanted, Crooked Rain and the Watery Domestic EP are my favorite records by the band. I've combined most of Wowee Zowee with some of the better songs on the last two records and that makes a great listen as well. I'd prefer Pavement to solo SM any day.

Their video for Gold Sounds is one of the best ever. Watch the Slow Century DVD with commentary switched on. Kannenberg and Nastanovich (sp?) are incredibly funny. They have a dig at Malkmus on the alternate Major Leagues video where he acts al cute and lovely eyed. (The DVD was compiled after Pavement split up)

Take a look at the pic, they're one of the sexiest bands ever?(except for Westy the drummer)

wilhelm

Edited by - offerw on 11/14/2004 05:47:58
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  05:59:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've only seen two of their videos, "Cut your hair" and "Shady Lane", which were both incredibly funny.

If I have enough time today (once again, I'm spending my Sunday at the office), I will buy Slow Century.

Right now, I'm listening to "Brighten the corners", which has its great moments as well ("Hawaiian Blue" is an incredible song).


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  06:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sunday at the office. I remember. I remember well.

Crank up the music in your headphones, M.


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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1220 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  07:21:28  Show Profile  Visit Doog's Homepage  Click to see Doog's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Love em. Sitting here in my "Pavement?" speech bubble tshirt just being reminded to put Wowee Zowee on. I reckon SM's solo stuff is almost as great.

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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
503 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  08:45:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I own one single, cant even remember the title of it, but it mentions the smashing pumpkins, will have to buy that reissue though as I feel my pavement section is seriously lacking.

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They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?”
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1158 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  10:58:20  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I absolutely love Pavement. I've only been listening to them for about two years, and only own Slanted and Enchanted, Crooked Rain, Wowee Zowee, and Brighten the corners, but I adore each album. I generally listen to Crooked Rain and Brighten the Corners the most, have difficulty deciding which album I like better. I was using a line from Blue Hawaiian as my sig here for a while, its such a great song. "Aloha means goodbye and also hello, its in how you inflect, put the bark in the dog and you've got a guardian." That just sends shivers down my spine. As for SM's solo work, I've listened to both albums, prefer Pig Lib to the S/T, but I haven't given either a really fair listening to. I do remeber that I really like Do Not Feed the Oysters though, from Pig Lib.


Turn the spit on that pig and kick the drum and let me down.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  11:07:59  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
i got terror twilight before i got their other albums, and it remains my favourite, such a perfect album.


The Monkey Helper has arrived http://www.monkeyhelper.co.uk (that is my band)
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  16:00:46  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Pavement greatly improved transportation. Could you imagine driving on dirt roads all the time?

Wait, you're talking about the BAND. I've heard several of their songs, and I thought they were pretty good, but not as wonderful as everyone else seems to think. Are there any songs of theirs that I absolutely need to hear?



"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  16:08:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No. There is nothing in this world you absolutely need to hear. Except maybe "Box Elder".


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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  16:11:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahh, fond memories of watching 120 Minutes late at night and catching pavement, liz phair, belly, and mazzy star videos. I miss that.

I like Malkmus' solo stuff a bunch, but its just not the same. I miss alt-rock

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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
947 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  04:17:41  Show Profile  Visit Scarla O's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur

I look at those new rock bands, the Strokes etc. All their albums put together are not worth one song by Pavement.


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...somebody's getting old.

"Life rolls by with vapour trails that break your scarlet fingernails."
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  11:25:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Slow Century DVD was what really got me into Pavement. I owned a few of their albums and listened from time to time, but after seeing the videos and live performances, I became obsessed.

It's hard to pick a favorite album, but Crooked Rain Crooked Rain comes to mind. The reissue is great, with all sorts of stuff I never heard before, so it's kind of like having a new Pavement record. The Strings of Nashville is enchanting.

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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  11:53:53  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I can't get into them despite my effort.


"Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)"
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  11:59:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you heard the song Grounded? And not the faster version, the Wowee Zowee version.

Signature's are kind of like bumper stickers, only less sticky.

Edited by - TarTar on 11/15/2004 11:59:32
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  13:27:46  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
While it still kinda baffles me why so many people *love* this band, I have to admit that Slanted/Enchanted is a classic - it must've inspired countless home recordists. Terror Twilight is almost as good.

Three best Pavement songs: Fame Throwa, The Hexx, List of Dorms
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  13:29:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you know, that photo makes them look like the cast of an 80's sitcom. And not a high level one either. We're talking Charles in Charge here.

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Mroocore
- FB Fan -

USA
177 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  14:06:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SM is good.
it all worked real well w/ pavement.
they had some studio magic, but live shows were rotten.
i mean i want my $ plus back bad.
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  19:47:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you saw em live???????????????????? Lucky bastard if u did

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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  21:06:15  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have a couple of Pavement shows, and they don't sound too bad. Difficult to say which one I like best, all albums have cracking songs, and also a couple of real shitty ones. Terror Twilight is probably my fave.

This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *

1670 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2004 :  21:46:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Slanted & Enchanted is prob their best. Modest Mouse was even playing that cd while they were setting up their equipment at the NY show.

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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1965 Posts

Posted - 11/16/2004 :  10:00:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Modest Mouse wishes they could be as compelling and original as the Pixies and Pavement.

Wowee Zowee took me the longest to get into of all the albums, it's seriously deconstructed and all the songs seem to fall apart, but eventually it makes sense. There's some amazing songs on that record. Grounded, Fight This Generation, Rattled by the Rush, We Dance, Half a Canyon, Serpentine Pad.

The shows on the DVD are pretty solid, especially the performance of Grounded. Malkmus is in dorky rock star mode during that, and it's awesome.

I saw a performance from 1997 where they sounded pretty bad on most of the songs.

Nowadays, Malkmus is a fantastic guitar player. He's improved greatly on singing and playing. Some may view that as a bad thing.
But the Jicks are a great live show. And the bassist, Joanna Bolme, is hot.




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