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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  15:29:33  Show Profile  Visit slaveish's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Brian, do you know David Broza?
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harringk
- FB Fan -

USA
202 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  15:32:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How could requiring ID to vote be a bad thing? I'm glad they asked to see my ID. How would you like to show up to vote and be told that you had already voted?

"There is your signature right there Mr. Johnson"

"What are you talking about? Thats not my signature."

"Sure it is. It's right there. Please leave now, you can't vote twice."

Seems like with all the squeeling about voter fraud we should be trying to make the process more secure, not less secure.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5456 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  15:33:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by harringk

How could requiring ID to vote be a bad thing? I'm glad they asked to see my ID. How would you like to show up to vote and be told that you had already voted?

"There is your signature right there Mr. Johnson"

"What are you talking about? Thats not my signature."

"Sure it is. It's right there. Please leave now, you can't vote twice."

Seems like with all the squeeling about voter fraud we should be trying to make the process more secure, not less secure.



Not everyone has a photo ID or bills in their name. I actually don't have a problem with checking IDs but also know there are historic reasons for not requiring IDs. I don't feel informed enough to have solid opinion on the matter.

Edited by - darwin on 11/02/2004 15:38:02
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harringk
- FB Fan -

USA
202 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  15:36:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by darwin

quote:
Originally posted by harringk

How could requiring ID to vote be a bad thing? I'm glad they asked to see my ID. How would you like to show up to vote and be told that you had already voted?

"There is your signature right there Mr. Johnson"

"What are you talking about? Thats not my signature."

"Sure it is. It's right there. Please leave now, you can't vote twice."

Seems like with all the squeeling about voter fraud we should be trying to make the process more secure, not less secure.



Not everyone has a photo ID or bills in their name.



Ok, but if you have the mental capacity to register to vote, you should be able to deal with getting a state issued ID card.
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martha_promise
= Cult of Ray =

USA
398 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  15:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree that if you're capable of getting to the correct polling place in your precinct it shouldn't be to too troubling to show your I.D.

Des Moines IA, around 2:00 this afternoon. It was as dead as a doorknob, in and out within 5 minutes,...nothing unusual to report besides the foul smell of cafeteria food.

~~Come inside, or...Go Away.~~

Edited by - martha_promise on 11/02/2004 15:52:47
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  16:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slaveish

Used the old-fashioned pull-lever machine. No lines. New York has a provision that allows candidates to be endorsed by more than one party, and thus be on the ballot more than once. so....George *&^*#$%$$ Bush was on the ballot twice. This pissed me off. He was apparently endorsed by the Conservative party.

I'm curious about these "lever" machines, never having used them. I understand that at one time one could vote a "straight ticket" with a single pull in the lever, thereby voting for all the Dems or Repubs or whatever. Is this still possible in some places? Or would one have to execute a pull or something for each candidate? Like one pull for gov, senator, rep, dog catcher, etc.?
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  16:04:19  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
At our voting place you were allowed to use a utility bill as proof of identity, I think most people are blessed with the wonder that is bills.

Anyway, my voting experience was very easy (in Boston) - I breezed in and breezed out. I think it was good I left work early, I bet it's crowded now.

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If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
Oh, as you turn to leave
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =

USA
408 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  16:34:54  Show Profile  Visit Johnny Yen's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Montpelier, VT 10:50am, City Hall:
Told the 2 old ladies my name, and in exchange for the words got 2 paper ballots. Stood in my little booth, and colored in dots (the one thing Scantron tests prepared me for was voting in my town). I had to wait in line to deposit my ballots in the scanner machine for 2 minutes.
Then I went downstairs to the bake sale the other old ladies were having. I bought 1 piece of Lemon-Poppyseed bread, and 4 big Peanut Butter-Oatmeal cookies for the low price of $1. Best deal in town. I heard they were selling pizza around lunch time for a buck a slice. awesome.
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5157 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  16:39:16  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slaveish

Brian, do you know David Broza?



i do indeed i went to high school with his son ramon. how do you know david?

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  18:12:37  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I couldn't find a picture of the machines we use in New York, but this one is very close.



quote:
This is a photo from the Chicago Daily Sun circa 1905. It features a lever pull machine much like the Myers
Automated Booth.



"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  18:23:55  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I just give the election aid my name and address, no ID is asked for. She looks me up in the registered voters book. She tells me to sign on the line next to my name. She matches my signature to the one in the book she had. I'm then given a number, this time I was #456, and then I just wait my turn to vote. No ID and no hastle. Maybe cause I'm so cute.

quote:
Originally posted by ramona

At our voting place you were allowed to use a utility bill as proof of identity, I think most people are blessed with the wonder that is bills.

Anyway, my voting experience was very easy (in Boston) - I breezed in and breezed out. I think it was good I left work early, I bet it's crowded now.

_____________________________________________________________________
If you see me, look surprised
If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
Oh, as you turn to leave
________________________________
http://buymediamonds.blogspot.com




"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard"

Edited by - Thomas on 11/02/2004 18:25:04
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  19:33:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Minneapolis, MN

It took me about 1 hour and 45 minutes to vote. I voted at a school... and it was so cute watching the little kids get their breakfast.

I went w/my husband and although it was pretty boring, at least we were there together. It was pretty crowded. Things were cool except for the guy behind me, a vet kept accidently running me over with his walker and this guy who thought he was all that who cut in front of me about 1 hour and a half into the line and wouldn't back down and get at the end of the line. Although I got my licence in August, my registration hadn't gone through. So I had to fill out a form and show my id and a bill to get to vote...no biggie. Yeah, it was pretty annoying at times but it was cool seeing so many people who cared. I remember thinking how cool it was to see "democracy in action".

Downtown everyone was hyped about the election and wearing their "I voted" stickers and carrying mostly John Kerry stuff. Pretty much everyone today was like... "Did you vote yet," so it was cool to feel like this is type of paticipatory democracy that the framers intended.... vs. the other more apathetic election vibe I've experienced in the past.

http://www.campervanbeethoven.com/gearstolen/

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 11/02/2004 19:35:34
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5456 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  20:52:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

At our voting place you were allowed to use a utility bill as proof of identity, I think most people are blessed with the wonder that is bills.

Anyway, my voting experience was very easy (in Boston) - I breezed in and breezed out. I think it was good I left work early, I bet it's crowded now.

_____________________________________________________________________
If you see me, look surprised
If you don't, then pass me by
And I might even touch your sleeve
Oh, as you turn to leave
________________________________
http://buymediamonds.blogspot.com



Not all people have utility bills in their names. Think old people. No car. No utilities that they pay for.
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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  21:02:43  Show Profile  Visit slaveish's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Broken Face

quote:
Originally posted by slaveish

Brian, do you know David Broza?



i do indeed i went to high school with his son ramon. how do you know david?

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"



I met David through a mutual friend when I lived in L.A. He came out for a performance and came over Kate's house while I was there. He invited me to the performance and got me a front-row seat. He's such a nice guy. He did an in-studio performance on the local radio station, and I remembered him mentioning that he lives in Creskill part time, when he's not in Tel Aviv. I haven't kept up with him- my friendship with Kate fell apart soon after meeting him, so there really wasn't the opportunity.

Erebus, you can't vote straight- party with one lever pull any more. I guess these machines must be all over the northeast- I remember using them years back. I used punch card in California.

Edited by - slaveish on 11/02/2004 21:06:58
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5157 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2004 :  22:38:21  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i haven't seen david in about 5 years, but i'm pretty sure that he now lives most of the time in spain. he may still own property in cresskill and/or tel aviv. i've actually recently moved out of cresskill, but didn't switch my voting over in time, so i crashed w/ the parents tonight and voted here.

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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