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leica
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USA
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 Posted - 10/22/2004 : 22:00:35
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I don't want to get my hopes up, but the last show was so great, it's kind of hard not to.
I hope to see some fellow FB.netians at the show.
Let's discuss afterward. |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2004 : 08:17:42
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I'll be there! WOO HOO! Orchestra seats, Row 4!!!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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sydney
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Posted - 10/23/2004 : 15:04:40
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| Lawn 'ere :-D I caught 'em right in front of the stage at Coachella, so I figure, why not catch a different perspective? It's an awesome venue; saw the Dead there in June, fifth row. |
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
383 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2004 : 01:30:39
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Great show. My third and final show for this year, and this show held up perfectly well even compared to the Glass House and San Diego. Irvine's my hometown, and even though I was ambivalent about the prospect of standing on a lawn behind 20,000 people (I'd be happy if Frank never played anywhere bigger than the Mint), I'm glad I stuck with my decision to go. Even from the lawn the sound was bright and clear and the view was fine, enhanced by a big screen. Great setlist and great interaction. They're just playing awesomely right now. The swing they acheive on Debaser is unbeatable. Frank was really loose and engaged. I was blown away by the "song within a song" thing - have they done this at other shows? They played the first half of Isla De Encanta, segued into Crackity Jones at the midpoint, and then back into the close of Isla. Freaking AWESOME!!! Then they pulled the same trick again, inserting Holiday song inbetween the two halves of Nimrod's Son (fast/slow, for those interested). Great to hear Head On and Planet of Sound. I had fun and would no longer be totally displeased if everything fails to go back to "just like it was before" next year...
How about that fucking Mars Volta, though? They sound like a cross between, say, Tool and a Santana cover band. Awful, awful, awful. The kids seem to love 'em. The Thrills might still be worse in terms of sheer banality, though. Fortunately I missed them entirely tonight. |
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LBF1976
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 10/24/2004 : 03:12:35
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That's the first I've heard of Song within Song, sounds cool though.
I like At the Drive In, I haven't listened to much of Mars Volta, but that seems like a harsh indictment you've placed upon them, I'd have to imagine they are a bit better than you gave them credit, then again, I could be completely wrong.
Thanks for your account of the show!
Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronken. |
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bobo plenty
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/24/2004 : 09:44:45
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| The sound at this show was better than all of the Greek Theatre LA and Greek Theatre Berkeley shows. The mix was perfect and the setlist was great. Overall it was a great show with the exception of Mars Volta. What a terrible fucking band. All the kids were wild for them but all I could hear was a bad Zeppelin ripoff. That's one hour of my life that I want back. |
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sydney
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Posted - 10/24/2004 : 09:56:47
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Mars was so abysmal. Shooting the belubed Jed the Fish in the face. No, please. Just no. And to LBF, who likes At the Drive in: Sparta is a MUCH better spinoff, if you'd like to check 'em out--opened for Pixies @ Coachella. I wasn't feelin' the crowd's interest (at least at the lawn, though); I was dancin' like a banshee and nearly everyone else was doin' the "I'm-too-hip-for-this" thing.
31 songs. 93 minutes. A thing of beauty. :-D |
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FOGE
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Posted - 10/24/2004 : 11:28:40
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anybody get the set list?quote:
Originally posted by sydney
Mars was so abysmal. Shooting the belubed Jed the Fish in the face. No, please. Just no. And to LBF, who likes At the Drive in: Sparta is a MUCH better spinoff, if you'd like to check 'em out--opened for Pixies @ Coachella. I wasn't feelin' the crowd's interest (at least at the lawn, though); I was dancin' like a banshee and nearly everyone else was doin' the "I'm-too-hip-for-this" thing.
31 songs. 93 minutes. A thing of beauty. :-D
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Chrisedge
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Posted - 10/24/2004 : 11:50:32
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I know they subsituted some songs last night, but here is what they were SUPPOSED to play.
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
383 Posts |
Posted - 10/24/2004 : 12:42:49
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| Opened with Mind. Levitate not played. |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2004 : 10:23:22
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Definately the best of the three I've seen this year. I was fourth row, and the sound was amazing. Fun to see them play Planet of Sound, and Head On shook the whole place. The crowd did seem a bit in lax-mode, but that's cool. The Pixies churned out classic after classic with break-neck speed, and the "song envelopes" were totally awesome! (and her car is bitchin') The individuals themselves seemed in perfect form, both musically and spiritually. there wasn't as much banter as usual, but their level of professionalism spoke for itself. Charles seems to have lost a little weight! I remember at Coachella, he looked like a man about to die! Kim is still keeping with her short hair, and she also seemed not to be as heavy. Joey just looks cool period. And Dave is still wearing those white Levi's!
The Mars Volta, as everyone seems to be in agreement on, were right up there with the worst of the worst openers I've ever seen. Repulsive, insipid, and dry. On an interesting note, a good 5% of the audience left (!) after the Mars Vulva...er...Volta, which proves they have a good following. Who knows. Maybe in 2021 they will be the inexplicable Alt-band phoenix-rising.
All in all, a night In Heaven. Everything WAS fine!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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leica
- FB Fan -
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2004 : 22:18:27
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I feel bad saying this, but I think I was a bit disappointed. First off let me say I saw them in Berkeley on 9/25 and I thought it was one of the best concerts I'd ever seen. So that set the bar pretty high.
So it could have been my high expectations - or it could have been the venue, my seat in a nosebleed section, fatigue from the flight/drive, the freezing weather, or some combination of the above.
The sound quality was good and Frank was belting it out as well as I've ever heard him, but I could have sworn someone else in the band kept missing their cue. The set started off slow - it was almost as though they reversed the encore material - and that set the tone for the night.
There was no one surfing, very few people dancing, and some various light on the stage was blinding to us up in the high seats. There was no mosh pit and people were SITTING DOWN during the show. I thought that was strange. It was a really weird crowd.
I am fully aware that whatever disappointment I felt was probably my own fault. And even though I didn't think it was the concert of a lifetime, it was still fun to hear them playing together. So this is not a complaint, just an assessment of one person's experience. |
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destroyallmusic
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 01:22:48
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you guys are right about this show...
the sound up front could not have been any better...
10 times better than the Greek, i left the Greek completely disappointed and i left Irvine completely astonished.
PERFECTION! i wish they disclived this shit. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 07:31:14
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| No moshpit? No surfing? Ever tried 'enjoying' the show in different ways than flailing like an idiot, like, um, listening to the music? |
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leica
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 10:11:03
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Oh for pete's sake. Don't give me that stupid attitude. I am not some philistine. Having a moshpit or surf area does not make or break a show. It is merely indicative of the attitude of the crowd. I was trying to convey the fact that this was a pretty sedate crowd. And that affected the way the music was received.
Even Frank said during the show, "Does it freak anyone else out when the crowd is totally silent between songs? That freaks me out a little."
The sound quality may have been good, but for whatever reason, there was not that give-take between the band and the crowd that can give a show it's own electricity, create it's own energy. Instead it seemed there more of an energy drain at this show - the band creating and sending energy and the crowd receiving it but not giving back. It wasn't intentional. And I'm sure if you were in the fourth row it was a different feeling than if you were in a high section at the top of the amphitheater.
All I really know is the show was totally different from the show I saw in September. That does not mean it was a bad show, just that my expectations were probably too high. |
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leica
- FB Fan -
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2004 : 10:13:55
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And I'll also say this: the day the Pixies play with a philharmonic orchestra, I'll be happy sitting down quietly in my seat.
Until that day, however, I would prefer to be standing up, shaking my ass, squeezed into a wild crowd, screaming my voice out at the rock concert. In fact, that is my definition of "rock concert." |
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
383 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2004 : 17:42:56
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| Well, there wasn't a "mosh pit" at all. It was all seating, all the way up to the front. The area right directly in front of the stage was all seats. Granted the crowd was about 10 times more vocally enthusisatic for MV (I took great pleasure in getting on my cellphone after they finished and describing them as a "Santana cover band" loudly, to anyone in earshot) but it's just kind of a sucky, energy-sapping venue, and I thought their performance more than transcended that. I saw them at the freaking Glass House, for god's sake, and I would rather have seen them ANYWHERE but Verizon, but somehow, I still think that musically, Irvine was the better show. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/26/2004 : 17:54:47
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quote:
Originally posted by anazgnos
I saw them at the freaking Glass House, for god's sake, and I would rather have seen them ANYWHERE but Verizon, but somehow, I still think that musically, Irvine was the better show.
sacrilidge!
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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leica
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 19:00:55
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| I think you put it just right Anaz, Irvine was a sucky energy-sapping venue. The band was fine, sound was good, and though I heard a weird blip occasionally like someone missed their cue,I didn't dwell on it. The show just didn't gel as well as I would have liked. |
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bobo plenty
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/26/2004 : 21:53:56
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I'm in total agreement that Irvine Meadows (anyone remember when it was called that?) is a crappy venue, always has been, always will be. I haven't seen a show there in 15 years and wouldn't have bothered to see any other band there besides the Pixies. With those low expectations (and the extremely low quality of the opening act) it was easy for the Pixies to blow me away. Plus, as stated before, the sound kicked ass over any of the fall shows I've seen.
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MikeW
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USA
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 19:19:08
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| I saw them at Irvine and I thought it sounded better than the Greek. There was a lot of bass at the Irvine show from where I was standing but it was 10 x's louder than the Greek. I saw em at Santa Barbara the next night as well and that sound was somewhat messed up. Joey and Charles were either not loud enough or just not in the mix in certain sections. It was drums, bass and vocals through out most of the show. The crowd at SB sucked ass! Ppl were telling us to sit down, so we almost got into a fight(which is the last thing we wanted). We just wanted to enjoy our favorite band for the last time. Charles didnt really look into it that night either. I really think he feeds off of the crowd, so if they were not into it, neither was he.... The cool thing was we did have backstage passes that day, so it balanced out. |
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MikeW
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USA
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 19:21:41
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| Oh and by the way.... the Mars Volta sucked ass! I went to take a shit during their last song and I came out of the crapper 10 minutes later only to realize that they were not finished!!!!! I would have preferred to have seen John Tra Volta..... |
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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 21:33:10
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| Southern Cali, I'm telling ya, it's a mellooww place. Hard for people to get excited about nearly anthing. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 21:45:43
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the crowd did suck at Santa Barbara.
i think Irvine Meadows sucks because it's in Orange County. Orange County will suck the life out of anything cool.
plus, that concert (i didn't go) was sponsored by KROQ. i mean, what do you expect from a stadium full of KROQ listeners.
slavish - it is mellow here, but then so many of the best rock bands (and punk rock bands) came from here. it's paradoxical.
i'm going to go chill out now.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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bobo plenty
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 23:14:30
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| from what I could tell from the signs in the venue, the irvine show was sponsored by indie 103. the atrocious opening band (I can't really stress enough how fucking godawful the mars volta were) exhorted the crowd to shoot jed the fish in the head. |
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anazgnos
= Cult of Ray =
USA
383 Posts |
Posted - 10/27/2004 : 23:20:07
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| Glass House was a great experience, San Diego had the best setlist, but Irvine was where they played the best. I'd rank it alongside any of the greatest, most intimate and intense Frank Black or Breeders live experiences I've had simply because they were so damn ON as a band. And, they succeeded IN SPITE OF playing in a potentialy shitty venue to a potentially indifferent audience. Of course I'm jealous that they were reportedly mashing five or six different songs together at a time the previous night. |
Edited by - anazgnos on 10/27/2004 23:22:19 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 23:37:44
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i wasn't at that show so i can't comment about their performance.
but for me nothing will compare to the Glass House show. i feel honored and privlidged to have attended. the anticipation.. the intimacy of the venue, and the explosiveness of their performance were umatched at any other show i saw.
i went to: Spokane, Glass House, Coachella and Santa Barbara.
i agree with Mike W though. i think Frank feeds off the crowd.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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MikeW
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USA
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Posted - 10/27/2004 : 23:41:36
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| I was at the Glass House too and that was nice. I thought Kim's bass was very muddy at that show though..... Irvine definately had great energy. Plus, we had great seats in the orchestra and it was free! So I cant complain. Other than the Mars Volta sucked ass! Oh and my friend posted on pixiesmusic about the santa barbara show as well and how the crowd was just way fucking lame! Like I said, we almost got into a fight with some chicks and some pregnant woman and her boyfriend or whatever because we we standing, dancing and shaking our heads a rock concert? |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/28/2004 : 05:45:20
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[quote]Originally posted by floop
i think Irvine Meadows sucks because it's in Orange County. Orange County will suck the life out of anything cool.
- it is mellow here, but then so many of the best rock bands (and punk rock bands) came from here.
Uhhhh............
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2004 : 09:30:04
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hey, i can say that TRANSMARINE. i was born and raised in OC so i have free reign to insult it.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/28/2004 : 23:18:16
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
hey, i can say that TRANSMARINE. i was born and raised in OC so i have free reign to insult it.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
Me too.....(born and raised).....I wont comment on the content of what has transpired musically, but I will comment on the contempt.
You Are Naive.And to have 'free reign', you must first find the horse to bank on.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2004 : 23:24:13
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quote:
Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
Me too.....(born and raised).....I wont comment on the content of what has transpired musically, but I will comment on the contempt.
You Are Naive.And to have 'free reign', you must first find the horse to bank on.
transmarine,
i'm just taking a piss. i grew up in Orange County. i have a love hate relationship with it. my family is there. i think it's a beautiful place, and a great place to raise a family. but i don't think there's much going on there cultrually. growing up there, like a lot of my peers, i had a strong desire to get out. and i'm gald i did. no offense to you.
having lived there most of my life, and lived elsewhere, i feel validated in expressing my opinion of the place. though you might disagree it, my opinion does not come from a "naive" place.
i was half joking by the way, so don't get too offended.
it's not for me, that's all.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 10/29/2004 : 00:02:54
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quote:
Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by TRANSMARINE
Me too.....(born and raised).....I wont comment on the content of what has transpired musically, but I will comment on the contempt.
You Are Naive.And to have 'free reign', you must first find the horse to bank on.
i don't know what that means i'm afraid.
i'm just taking a piss. i grew up in Orange County. i have a love hate relationship with it. my family is there. i think it's a beautiful place, and a great place to raise a family. but i don't think there's much going on there cultrually. growing up there, like a lot of my peers, i had a strong desire to get out. and i'm gald i did. no offense to you.
but having lived there most of my life, i feel validated in expressing my opinion of the place. and my opinion is that it's not for me. to live there anyway.
did not indend to offend
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
Floop...I apologize if I sounded like an asshole. Everyone has the right to state how they feel about anything, and I apologize for coming across combative.
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 10/29/2004 : 00:15:18
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i apologize if what i said sounded too harsh. there are lots of things i like about Orange County. just, growing up there and being a digruntled youth, you learn to despise it. kind of like someone who grows up in a small town and wants to get out. not that Orange County is small, but, you know?
i have friends there, and my family is there (like i said). and i like visiting now, when i go. i just didn't like the whole jock/republican/bad-boy-sticker/huge truck culture that was there. but there are good things too.
they do boast the best Mexican food place i have still had, to this day: Taqueria De Anda. that's something.
and some good bands came from there.
AND the electric guitar was invented there http://www.fendereurope.com/fenderfiles/WhoWasMr.Fender.asp
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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ultra7
- FB Fan -
USA
12 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 14:14:15
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| awww...everyone kiss and make up, for christ's sake! |
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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2004 : 19:31:42
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geez, look what I started. Guess I was wrong about southern cali folks being unable to get excited about anything.
floop, I appreciate that you actually spell "slavish" correctly. I saw it printed somewhere the other day- in the paper or something, and I was like, oh.... |
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