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harringk
- FB Fan -

USA
202 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  13:54:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok so we all know that the mainstream media is biased, some more blatantly obvious about it than others, but they all have their own point of view.

So where do you go on the web, on the radio, or on TV to find straight reporting (if it exists)? Where are the real journalists out there that you trust to give you the just the facts?

I'll get the ball rolling with a site that I use for basic news and commentary. It is mostly just links to other online news articles and editorials, but it also has some exclusive stuff written by the staff on the site. It is run by a self-proclaimed independent, but he is definately more conservative than liberal. The commentary page has editorials from lots of different points of view.

I don't claim that this is a source for good investigative reporting, but it is a nice overview of what is making the headlines at any time and different points of view are presented.

http://www.wnd.com



bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <

United Kingdom
2638 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  13:58:56  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
hardly 'indie' news or anything... but heck, it's hard to find objective news, we're all human, we all have opinions... i say you can't go wrong with http://www.bbc.co.uk/news - incredibly quick at uploading breaking news (always before other news sites i've observed) and i've never found it to be particuarly biased. easy to navigate, news from which ever region/area you require news for. sections for other categories of news...


The Monkey Helper has arrived http://www.monkeyhelper.co.uk (that is my band)

Edited by - bumblebeeboy2 on 10/14/2004 13:59:20
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Broken Face
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USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  14:23:27  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i usually try and rotate tv networks between cnn, abc, nbc and cbs - i refuse to watch fox news for the obvious reasons

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  14:23:42  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I listen to the radio all day while I work:
NPR (plays BBC as well), Clear Channel Talk Radio and news, Air America, etc. I had to stop listening to Rush about 2 months ago - he is just too shrill and lies too often, and he was making me feel ill. Sometimes I tune into Shortwave radio news from around the world. Depends on what I can pick up. Usually the only thing I can pick up is several different iterations of the conservative think tank's/Christian right's radio stations run by Radio America, and distributed in places like Taiwan, Iraq, South America, Africa...well, just about everywhere, etc. (www.radioamerica.org)

I read Harper's Magazine (www.harpers.org), occasionally the Atlantic (www.theatlantic.com), and www.slashdot.org for a centralized area with links to topics not carried elsewhere.

TV, not so much, but when I go there for news I usually skim through every channel to get an idea of what they choose to cover and how they present it:
CSPAN 1 and 2 www.c-span.org (Best by FAR), Bloomberg, World News International,

Absolutely awful, hardly ever cover the news (and when they do it's couched in commentary, not jouralism) but I check in to follow the agendas:
FoxNews, CNN, MSNBC, and hardly ever the networks (can't remember the last time I watched Network television).

I've also been reading nonfiction/historical books relevant to US government, geopolitics, the Middle East, intelligence, basically background info relevant to current events, etc.

The rest? I google for deeper research into news items that interest me.


RIP Rest In Peace Jacques Derrida. rasta. ruowa. freedom from activity. a brief pause in reading. a rhythmic silence in music.

Edited by - apl4eris on 10/14/2004 14:26:41
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Alpha Soixante
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Canada
129 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  16:41:58  Show Profile  Visit Alpha Soixante's Homepage  Reply with Quote
BBC's good. And Harper's.

Here are some useful meta-news sites that lean left, but tend to link only (not always) to articles in generally respectable papers. They're great since they'll spotlight important articles which that get buried in mainstream papers.

http://www.alternet.org/
http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.buzzflash.com/

And some generally good blogs that are good for news and commentary:

http://www.juancole.com/
http://www.atrios.blogspot.com/
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
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n/a
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4894 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  17:30:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't sleep much so BBC news 24 does it for me, sometimes I'll check the BBC website although the ex usually sends me the funny stories at least by e mail, I don't buy papers usually, on rare occasions the sunday times, I get new scientist most weeks (reminds me I must actually subscribe) and, er, sometimes NME

()


I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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Perk
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USA
210 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  20:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little bird comes to my window every day.


Don't sweat the petty things
and don't pet the sweaty things
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
503 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  21:22:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the bbc's website every morning, and then penny on gmtv.

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“I want to be a star!” I cried
They said, “You’re overqualified.
Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?”
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =

Equatorial Guinea
649 Posts

Posted - 10/14/2004 :  21:42:15  Show Profile  Visit SpudBoy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bloomberg and Dow Jones market and article feeds, Associated Press wire, BBC, slashdot, newsforge, rightie and leftie radio, Harper's, Punk Planet, the Wall Street Journal, and gregpalast.com for investigative journalism since you can't do that in america anymore.


*festoon*
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  15:24:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
www.christiansciencemonitor.com is really good, don't get turned off by the name, if you read the FAQ you can get the story behind the name.
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betty
= Cult of Ray =

USA
258 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  15:53:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
don't pet the sweaty things, are you mad?

what were we talking about?

(note, betty bothered with the "shift" key, take heed)

THE DAILY SHOW

i also have a thing for stephen colbert.

i'm so lonely and funny.

(sobbguffaw)



love,

betty

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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  21:53:18  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage  Reply with Quote
For me BBC website (if it hasn't been blocked by the Government) I tend to not waste my time reading news papers, or watching the news here in China. It really is complete and utter nonsense. I also regularly visit www.guardian.co.uk, which is the website of the Guardian newspaper.... very good site.

Was actually thinking about having a gander at the Al Jazeera website, as a few people I know have informed me that it is actually pretty good at reporting the news from Iraq. Is this true?

Just the good ole boys, never meaning no harm,
that all you ever saw
been in trouble with the law,
since the day they were born
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 10/15/2004 :  22:03:46  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

another vote for news.bbc.co.uk here. i've used it since it came into existence.

news.google.com is entertaining for the variety of terrible sources.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2004 :  00:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chip Away Boy

www.christiansciencemonitor.com is really good, don't get turned off by the name, if you read the FAQ you can get the story behind the name.



I want to second that. They really do some great reporting from Iraq and Afganistan.

My main news sources: NPR, Newsweek, Yahoo News for headlines throughout the day

Politics: dailykos.com, politicalwire.com, www.talkingpointsmemo.com
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2004 :  15:55:46  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Relevant to internet news...

Oct. 7th - Feds seize Indymedia servers in London:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/08/fbi_indymedia_raids/

Oct. 14th - IndyMedia Gets Its Servers Back:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,65338,00.html

IndyMedia's background on the story:
http://indymedia.org/en/static/fbi


RIP Rest In Peace Jacques Derrida. rasta. ruowa. freedom from activity. a brief pause in reading. a rhythmic silence in music.

Edited by - apl4eris on 10/16/2004 15:58:07
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2004 :  23:25:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know why my last news source showed up as a link. I'm not trying to push that one.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 10/17/2004 :  12:06:18  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Just because you put in the www, most likely. It's probably going to show up as a link in this message, too.

EDIT: Okay, it didn't. Maybe you need to put a dot after it for it to become a link.



"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan

Edited by - VoVat on 10/17/2004 12:06:53
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