| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
 Posted - 10/14/2004 : 05:56:50
|
Yes, he stated that he was ripping off the Pixies with 'Smells Like Teen Spirit', and of course he was emulating the Melvins with everything prior to Nevermind...but if you've ever heard the Rocket From The Tombs' version of 'Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo', you would say that half way thru the song, you were listening to 'Aneurysm' by Nirvana.
Except the RFTTT version was recorded in 1974...now in case you didnt know, RFTTT was a band that consisted of mainly members that would eventually become Pere Ubu (who redid the tune and toned it down in comparison)....
but only recently have RFTTT emerged on commercially available recordings. However, tapes have always circulated among those lucky enough to be 'in the know'....apparently Cobain was one of them and thought he was slick (who's gonna know?)....
anyone else notice this? |
Edited by - frank_black_francis on 10/14/2004 05:58:57 |
|
|
billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 07:04:22
|
I LOVE 30 seconds over Tokyo!
but I'm more familiar with Pere Ubu's version
it's great
now for Rocket from the Tombs
their version appears on their first release
(I believe it came out with the reunion last year)
my dad has that record so maybe I can check it out this evening
 "I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did" |
 |
|
|
Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1162 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 07:49:17
|
i'ven ever heard 30 seconds over tokyo but to be fair it's a fairly simple riff.
i would have to hear the original to compare.
as far as SLTS, it's only a style ripoff, not a direct note for note riff ripoff. |
|
|
|
billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 02:24:08
|
So I checked out me fathers Rocket from the tombs cd
and yes
in the middle
not a style rip off, but a direct note for note rip off!
It's not on the pere ubu version
not on the new (2003) Rocket from the tombs version
only on the 1975 one.
The song is pretty simple and than around the bridge
it transfers into a riff
and it's almost the same as aneurysm
maybe a slightly other accent
but really, believe me
this is pure thievery
aneurysm was like my favourite nirvana song
"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did" |
|
|
|
frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 05:58:50
|
| ....thanks for the confirmation. |
|
|
|
billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 10:47:36
|
...thanks for the tip
I have listened to pere ubu and rftt the last 2 days
"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did" |
|
|
|
frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 17:18:00
|
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
...thanks for the tip
I have listened to pere ubu and rftt the last 2 days
By the way, they are pretty damn good huh? |
|
|
|
Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
899 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 18:50:15
|
Even In His Youth and About A Girl bear musical similarities to Out For A Walk and Bag Full Of Thoughts by the Flaming Lips. Both songs are from the "Flaming Lips" EP, which was released in '84 or '85.
There's a Fugazi song (I think it's from In On The Killtaker) that contains the Aneurysm intro riff, except in the Fugazi song it starts on B instead of F#.
Is that the riff you guys are talking about? |
|
|
|
billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2004 : 00:37:16
|
quote:
Originally posted by frank_black_francis
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
...thanks for the tip
I have listened to pere ubu and rftt the last 2 days
By the way, they are pretty damn good huh?
yeah! I only know one album yet: The Story Of My Live
it's great! I'm gonna hijack the rest of my fathers collection soon
"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did" |
|
|
|
frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2004 : 08:15:04
|
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
yeah! I only know one album yet: The Story Of My Live
it's great! I'm gonna hijack the rest of my fathers collection soon
Thats a good one, even has Eric Drew on the keys....check out Modern Dance and Dub Housing also. |
Edited by - frank_black_francis on 10/17/2004 08:16:58 |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
NIrvana: Another Rip-Off Example
