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bumblebeeboy2
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  16:08:27  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
had some issues recording bass recently, some notes aren't quite at the right level, so you get the odd loud note and the odd quiet note... does anyone use any kind of filters or nomalisation on the bass to get it all to a standard volume for every note or is it down to the playing?


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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  16:10:09  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Compression is what you are looking for. Of course, if you can play it without such mishaps, all the better, but compression will help you even it out somewhat.


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bumblebeeboy2
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  16:19:38  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
cheers, can you elaborate at all?

i have a thiny that i record via, a simple pre-amp thingy... maybe... i've lost the manual so not sure how it works or what it does... my next question...

20dB pad
+48v
phase reverse

what do they mean and what do they do?



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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  17:00:25  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
To my knowledge:

The 48v is for condenser mics, it's phantom power. Not used for most dynamic microphones like an SM57 or SM58.

The phase reverse shouldn't be noticeable unless you are using more than one microphone. It reverses the polarity of the signal.

20db pad is a gain boost to the channel before the eq, usually without eq but sometimes may have a bass boost either intentional or unintentional, it may add noise, it will probably cancel some noise. You press this and bring the volume down a bit. Used depending on how responsive the microphone is.
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bumblebeeboy2
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  17:04:22  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
cheers pal!


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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  17:43:20  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yeah, recording bass guitar sure can be a pain. What you wanna do is combine the sound of a miked amp with a "direct" sound, via either a direct-box or the amp's line-out/effects-send (only use an amp's speaker-out if you're plugging it into a direct-box). Other options that may improve your recording include increasing the distance between the mic and the amp to reduce bass response (may also increase noise) or recording a direct-signal only.

Of course, compression makes the job a lot easier.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  18:06:25  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I was learning more about microphones this week, I found this series of articles by Stephen Paul completely awesome. This gives me an appreciation for microphone design I've overlooked my whole life.

My new desires Earthworks microphones and DPM microphones as used by Telarc. I have this old Telarc Bach Organ CD (recorded with Shoeps Colette Series) that because of the dynamic range says "Damage could result to speakers or other components if the musical program is played back at excessively high levels." Telarc kicks ass, they list almost all the equipment used on most of their recordings. And they make some of the best, mostly classical and Jazz though.

Other things I came across are this excellent technical site about ribbon mics, a great site dedicated to microphones, an okay page (except all the links to zZounds) I found useful on choosing mics.

Edited by - hammerhands on 10/01/2004 18:35:52
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 10/01/2004 :  18:23:27  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Compression, what tubes do. Similar to a limiter except it doesn't have as abrupt of a cut-off and has less perceived distortion.

The effect of heavy compression is that almost all the notes played will have the same volume. Extremely important for all those would be guitar gods who want to do bi-dexterous finger picking a la Eddie Van Halen.

A side effect is a warm tone, I can't explain that. You may have to brighten the sound.
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