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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 02/02/2006 :  11:23:42  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
man, Frank keeps amazing me!



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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
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Posted - 02/02/2006 :  11:49:23  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

"End of the Summer" was formerly known as "the Sicilian", it is for all intents an FB original although it incorporates some music from a classical composer who was, I believe, Sicilian...



It's "La Sicilienne" (opus 78, clarinet and piano in G major) and it was written by a French guy, Gabriel Fauré, in 1893.

By the way, I seem to remember the great Mr. Workman plays guitar on this track?


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 02/03/2006 :  11:23:09  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Has Frank Poped up


Well, he's been spotted drinking at the New House of the Pope, if that counts.



"If you doze much longer, then life turns to dreaming. If you doze much longer, then dreams turn to nightmares."
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  12:55:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not good english isn't it? (used it for "appeared") Oh well... If there were no translation mistakes, there wouldn't be neither a great Frank Black song called "New House of the pope" ("Newcastle of the pope" sounds weaker but is the exact name of the wine).
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  17:15:55  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oops!

Now it's up to 270.

Did we include:

Fare Thee Well

and... what else did I miss kiddos?
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
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Posted - 02/03/2006 :  21:37:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
26. END OF SUMMER
27. FARE THEE WELL [aka SAD MAN'S SONG]

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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 02/03/2006 :  21:41:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks JT [& Frog...] for the End of Summer info.

Btw Jon, do you know if there are any plans for extra track/s on the Japanese pressing?

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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  05:09:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not yet.
"Fare Thee Well" (Sad Man's Song) is a cover.

bye,
Jon Tiven
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  08:48:58  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&keyID=7956370&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID

FARE THEE WELL (Legal Title) BMI Work #7956370
Songwriter/Composer Current Affiliation CAE/IPI #
THOMPSON CHARLES MICHAEL KITTR BMI 223938465
Publishers
LONE CHILD MUSIC BMI 466669207

maybe it's misnamed? such a thing can happen in extreme cases of prolificness
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  08:58:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was under the impression it was a cover, but it may be his. Or it may be something in the public domain that he has put his own spin on. My bad.....maybe. I swear he said he learned it from a Burl Ives record.

Sleuths, do your investigating. I've added my 2 cents.

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Jon Tiven
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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  09:18:53  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jon, can you confirm that Mr. Workman plays on End of Summer / The Sicilian?

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fbc
-= Modulator =-

United Kingdom
4903 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  09:46:16  Show Profile  Visit fbc's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

I was under the impression it was a cover, but it may be his. Or it may be something in the public domain that he has put his own spin on. My bad.....maybe. I swear he said he learned it from a Burl Ives record.

I've read it's Burl Ives, too. With a Frank Black twist, maybe.
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  11:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Confirmed. Lyle's on about half of the two-disc set, and he not only played guitar, he is the arranger on the sessions as well.

He's writing with Sting now, so I hear.

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Jon Tiven
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 02/04/2006 :  11:43:03  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One more good news. Thanks Jon.

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Mac E. Doobage
= Cult of Ray =

503 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2006 :  11:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:y2jb7i63g77r






quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

I was under the impression it was a cover, but it may be his. Or it may be something in the public domain that he has put his own spin on. My bad.....maybe. I swear he said he learned it from a Burl Ives record.

Sleuths, do your investigating. I've added my 2 cents.

bye,
Jon Tiven

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  09:30:34  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven

Confirmed. Lyle's on about half of the two-disc set, and he not only played guitar, he is the arranger on the sessions as well.

He's writing with Sting now, so I hear.

bye,
Jon Tiven



you literaly hear Sting and Lyle working on songs, now?
Wow!


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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  09:43:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any chance Frank and Lyle recorded a real album version of mexican beans, one of my favorite frank black songs?
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pixie punk
> Teenager of the Year <

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Posted - 02/05/2006 :  10:05:59  Show Profile  Visit pixie punk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sting will play again in Puerto Rico (Isla Del Encanto) April 27 so I guess I'll see Lyle Workman onstage WOO HOO!!!! I hope Sting covers Thalassocracy Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2010 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  10:12:57  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque

Is there any chance Frank and Lyle recorded a real album version of mexican beans, one of my favorite frank black songs?


You mean, besides the one on Oddballs ?
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  15:47:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I assume you mean JUMPING BEANS ?

quote:
Originally posted by Grotesque

Is there any chance Frank and Lyle recorded a real album version of mexican beans, one of my favorite frank black songs?



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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2006 :  16:28:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I've never seen the disc Oddballs anywhere, but I didn't care as I had all the b sides on the different singles.
I know a live version and an accoustic version of the song jumping beans. Not a real rock version with Lyle Workman doing his amazing solo.
I the version on Oddballs of that kind?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  01:18:38  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
A bit, it certainly rocks, but if it's real rock?
Don't know, I always thought it was one of the tracks
you can hear Frank moving from his old style on TOTY to DITS


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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2462 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  05:37:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The solo acoustic version takes some beating.
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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2006 :  17:17:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I didn't want to bother everybody with my obsession on that song. If there IS a studio full band version, no worry, I just got to find "Oddballs", the phantom album. It's just strange that song appeared on it without being a b-side.
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 02/06/2006 :  22:38:59  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
yeah, good luck finding that, I haven't found it yet


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 02/07/2006 :  00:47:46  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here it is:

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=094DTIIJKHE9K1MAONM6MU9FKL


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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  03:43:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great! The version is GREAT! A killer!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
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Posted - 02/07/2006 :  04:46:15  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
the guitar sounds like an arabian violin or something
great
I want this on cd, Oddballs needs to be released
How good is the double tracking of Frank voice on this?
Who produced this? Brilliant


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 02/07/2006 :  05:28:35  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Who produced this? Brilliant



Eric Drew Feldman.

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  05:40:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, thanks a lot, Froggy, I never heard that before. I have The Kitchen Tapes version with Joey on vinyl (somebody posted that here before, I believe, or at least it sounds like it, I haven't listened to any of my vinyl records in a good few years), and an acoustic version from Rev 105 Radio which was posted before. Thanks again!

pas de dutchie!
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Frog in the Sand
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France
2715 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  05:48:50  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
God bless y'all.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 02/07/2006 :  09:12:35  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Who produced this? Brilliant



Eric Drew Feldman.

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Good to know that Frank and he will do another record in the future



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Grotesque
= Cult of Ray =

France
777 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  04:58:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah. Imagine what would have been a follow up to TOTY begining by the two Feldman produced tracks:
Jumping Beans
Man of Steel
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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  16:43:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought MAN OF STEEL was produced by Nick Vincent - post Cult of Ray.
Anyway another FB/EDF collaboration would be amazing.

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1965
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
799 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2006 :  16:51:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If my maths is correct: there are 27 new BMI listings [so far] plus No.28 DIRTY OLD TOWN, a cover.
If FASTMAN-RAIDERMAN is supposedly 27-tracks total, which one misses out?

Or have I got this all wrong?

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