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QuaBear
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 Posted - 10/20/2025 : 14:25:03
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Originally posted by Jamie
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Originally posted by Skatealex1
Also I'm not claiming those are Pazs views but I remember she seemed to post something alluding to that or similar at one point.
I think she posted something in support of Milei in Argentina at one point.
Also it's being glossed over a little that she tried to raffle Pixies merch to raise money for Ariel Pink's legal defense, which to me is clearly crossing a line by associating the band with it. We also don't know how involved she was with Ariel Pink (who seems like an all-around scumbag) and how much he was around.
I forgot she posted about Milei. I didn't know about the raffling of Pixies merch....hmm....so many things going on here. Again, would have to look at multiple sources to really make an informed decision on what actually happened. |
Edited by - QuaBear on 10/20/2025 14:25:43 |
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Troubles A Foot
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Posted - 10/20/2025 : 19:49:17
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Originally posted by The Maharal
Didn't once mention Ariel Pink. Paz has her own views and didn't shy away from them on the socials.
Such as...?
The controversy in question when she was fired was about her friendship with Ariel Pink.
I remember reading everything I could about what happened and I never once saw any example of any political views Paz may or may not have. Do you have an example? |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/21/2025 : 06:40:49
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She was happy with Milei becoming president of Argetina, I saw a Instagram story about that
I guess she knows way way way more about Argetina politics than I do, or Frank for that matter, but Milei seems a weird person to root for
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/21/2025 : 06:42:31
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Originally posted by billgoodman
Not sure if Frank can be in a band if he's totally against her political world view.
Her friend's political world view. Her friend.
It's all speculation from my part
But being a vocal supporter of Ariel Pink may be crossing a line
(and Milei, and maybe Trump)
Who knows?
I like some of Ariel Pinks music, but he's at least a dubious character.
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/21/2025 : 07:24:30
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Originally posted by billgoodman
It's all speculation from my part
But being a vocal supporter of Ariel Pink may be crossing a line
They are friends. I don't know if that means she's a "supporter" of him. I have friends who have politics I disagree with.
I have to admit I know nothing about Argentina politics, so I really don't know what any of that really means in regards to Paz's worldview, but maybe she has a more informed opinion on Argentina politics than we do?
So...is that it? I thought there were many examples Paz doesn't shy away from on social media. What else? |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/21/2025 : 08:47:35
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Originally posted by billgoodman
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Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
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Originally posted by billgoodman
Not sure if Frank can be in a band if he's totally against her political world view.
Her friend's political world view. Her friend.
It's all speculation from my part
But being a vocal supporter of Ariel Pink may be crossing a line
(and Milei, and maybe Trump)
Who knows?
I like some of Ariel Pinks music, but he's at least a dubious character.
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
And what line should that be? I have a different opinion on politics so I don’t like you/dont talk to you?
Sounds very unhealthy to me to judge people on their political opinions only, or to only talk to people you agree with.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 00:53:36
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All well and good
Of course you should talk to people with different opinions
Just read Pink's wiki. He seems to enjoy pissing people off. Saying it's not illegal to be racist and that's just for starters
I like some of his music. I think artist should have a lot of freedom to express their visions.
But maybe Frank took the bait. Pink is also one of the "you can't say anything anymore"-crowd, which is a bit of a catch 22
That he was attending a Trump rally just before the Capitol attack could be considered a coincidence
Not a good look though
Trump and his list of forbidden words doesn't seem like a great supporter of freedom of expression himself.
As a band, or as a brand, I think it could be wise to keep some distance from people like him.
Giving out Pixies-shirts to support Pink is maybe crossing a line
That Pink picked Paz off from her last band meeting is a bit funny in that regard
Still speculation from my part
Could be both money, Pink, Milei and just general irritations in the tour bus
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 03:20:15
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Sorry, don't want to start/beef up a political/ideology discussion here.
"Giving out Pixies-shirts to support Pink is maybe crossing a line." - This line for sure I would understand also.
I can see this all (the departure of Paz) from a more distant view, as I never got too much excited about Pixies 2.0 music anyway. With that said, I always had the impression that the cultural differences between an obviously more outgoing/lively South American character and three caustic, borderline-Asperger US eastcoast personalities were showing from time to time. So I wonder if that added to the "tensions" as well. Kim Shattuck also seemed to be more talkative/easy-going/here-for-fun, so it would be interesting what caused her departure (there was some mentioning of her crowd-surfing irritating the other 3 and/or the management, if I remember correctly). For sure, the "mysterious" / "straight-fur-music" Pixies-vibe is very much part of their style/legacy, so I don't complain about that. Just speculating...
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Sprite
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 03:31:55
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Originally posted by billgoodman
All well and good
As a band, or as a brand, I think it could be wise to keep some distance from people like him.
Giving out Pixies-shirts to support Pink is maybe crossing a line
That Pink picked Paz off from her last band meeting is a bit funny in that regard
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BF: Mag ik Engels spreken?
This seems very reasonable to me. This Pink seems to put at lot of noise in the system as we say around here. And that is very not Pixies brand. I'm sure we've all been in a situation at some point in our lives where we have a 'friend' that makes a (very) bad impression on other newer friends. The thought 'why are you hanging around with this idiot' has crossed my mind a few times in my life.
Instead of grumping at Frank & Co maybe I should direct my frustration at Pink who messed it up for Paz who quite clearly loved being a Pixie. Not much of a friend if that's true. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 20:20:44
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I'm still waiting for any of the many examples of Paz's political views that she supposedly spreads all over her social media...
Anybody? This was mentioned in this thread, and I've yet to see anything.
I don't care what Ariel Pink does. He's not in the Pixies and Paz can be friends with whoever she wants. Kicking her out of the band because of a friendship would be legitimately crazy to me. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 20:25:53
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Kim Shattuck also seemed to be more talkative/easy-going/here-for-fun, so it would be interesting what caused her departure
Dave mentioned she just was not tight enough rhythmically for him to be in sync with. Seems reasonable enough to me. I'm sure her stage antics pissed the guys off though. No fun allowed at a Pixies show! |
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The Maharal
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 21:26:57
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| I suggest reading the thread again because no one has said there were 'many' examples. I said she didn't shy away from it. Are you Fissile in disguise? |
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The Maharal
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/22/2025 : 21:27:55
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| Also if you think anyone has a screenshot of an Instagram story from months ago you are being ridiculously optimistic and obtuse. |
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