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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
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 Posted - 05/16/2025 : 08:44:50
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For my TMBG podcast I want to highlight a guitar solo by Lyle in Frank Black's work, since Lyle plays guitar on TMBG's cover of "New York City". As usual I am trying to get our listeners into Frank Black!
Any favorites? What clip should I play? Do my work for me! |
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The Maharal
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 05/16/2025 : 11:30:41
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I didn't realise that was Lyle! That's been one of my favourite TMBG songs for years.
Guess you could choose almost anything off TOTY but solo in The Vanishing Spies is amazing. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2025 : 13:00:10
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I was leaning towards Vanishing Spies!
It's like in my bottom least favorite ever TMBG songs so I'm...kind of trying to find other stuff to say about it! |
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The Maharal
* Dog in the Sand *
1014 Posts |
Posted - 05/16/2025 : 13:46:20
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It's quite straightforward for TMBG but I still enjoy it. However, since delving (slightly) deeper into their back catalogue after the concert last November that song is way down the pecking order now. The likes of Don't Let's Start, Cabbagetown, Where Your Eyes Don't Go, The Cap'm, Nanobots and She's An Angel have been in and out of my head. Still have a few more albums to explore.
Have gone down a TMBG / Frank rabbit hole now - I had never seen this footage before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMY2Og1icc8&ab_channel=PJalt (Frank sort of filling in for John Linnell for some radio recording).
Found a comment on another video claiming Frank came out to add some extra guitar crunch to Ana Ng during the tour he was opening for TMBG. What times they were. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2025 : 11:05:25
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Holy mama. I have never seen that video and I spent many days researching every time TMBG and Frank were in the same room because of a few podcasts we've recorded. Amazing! I wish the entire thing was up.
NYC is fine, it's kind of cute, I got sick of it kind of quickly, but really I'm just not too into them putting covers on their albums, because I'm in it for their songwriting. Obviously my podcast is going to dive deep into what the song means to Flans and to the fans and etc, but I have skipped that track on the album many, many times.
ANY MORE LYLE SOLOS WE SHOULD PLAY??? |
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Stevio10
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1132 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2025 : 11:56:00
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Always liked Lyle on The Marsist
Outside of FB my friends swear by Jellyfish album Spilt Milk that he plays on but it's a bit too Queen like for my taste. Worth a listen though. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 05/17/2025 : 13:25:35
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Originally posted by Stevio10
Always liked Lyle on The Marsist
Outside of FB my friends swear by Jellyfish album Spilt Milk that he plays on but it's a bit too Queen like for my taste. Worth a listen though.
That may be worth getting into on our Frank Black podcast which we do for our Patreon (but one day will release publicly!)
Marsist, great idea! |
Edited by - Troubles A Foot on 05/17/2025 13:25:45 |
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danjersey
> Teenager of the Year <
USA
2812 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2025 : 03:35:48
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Vanishing Spies
It’s got that instantly singable quality to it or whatever it’s called when you imitate a guitar part without a guitar |
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Brank_Flack
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
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Posted - 05/19/2025 : 06:07:48
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| I really like his lead parts in Steak and Sabre (particularly the choruses). Marsist is a good choice. I'd add Ole Mullholland after watching TOTY live. |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 05/19/2025 : 16:03:29
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Originally posted by danjersey
Vanishing Spies
It’s got that instantly singable quality to it or whatever it’s called when you imitate a guitar part without a guitar
Ah yes, what Beavis and Butt-Head do. Great point! In my podcast I'll say it's unanimous that Vanishing Spies is THE solo to play.
I love Steak and Sabre too! |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1037 Posts |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1070 Posts |
Posted - 05/20/2025 : 22:11:19
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I think it is a perfect example of how he is master of both notes/melody and tone/technical effect.
Here he starts this little solo, stops, and let it ring on through the reverb. Then, with a slight delay, he restarts the solo (at the exactly right moment!) over the still echoing previous solo. The effect is that it sounds like a second guitar is bypassing/overtaking the first guitar, and thus elevates everything.
So simple, but absolutely brilliant.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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Troubles A Foot
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1037 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2025 : 15:34:42
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Originally posted by two reelers
I think it is a perfect example of how he is master of both notes/melody and tone/technical effect.
Here he starts this little solo, stops, and let it ring on through the reverb. Then, with a slight delay, he restarts the solo (at the exactly right moment!) over the still echoing previous solo. The effect is that it sounds like a second guitar is bypassing/overtaking the first guitar, and thus elevates everything.
So simple, but absolutely brilliant.
I don't really hear any reverb, what he's doing is playing the two note riff and first using a pick and then only doing it with his left hand (and relying on the amp sustain to keep it going) while his pick hand is just hanging out or combing his hair or doing something cool or something. Then he keeps going like a normal guitar solo with a pick again. But yes, to your point, it's an innovative way to do a solo and has tons of personality and unexpected technique, and is probably visually cool to watch too.
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
1070 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2025 : 00:05:00
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Thanks for the explaination! As you probably realize, I'm not a guitar player but just tried to formulate the effect this solo has on me :)
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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Favorite Lyle Workman guitar work, man?
