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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 11/25/2002 :  22:37:12  Show Profile  Visit Apesy's Homepage
I'm going to the show this Wednesday, at the Avalon in Boston. I'd like to bring my digital camera along, but I have no idea how strict this particular club is regarding them. Actually, I haven't been to any clubs before, so I don't know what to expect, period.

Who else is going?

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Edited by - El Barto on 03/23/2003 22:56:49

Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  00:58:40  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
This is a good topic! Shooting with a dig. camera in the dark ain't the best of combinations..

Using the flash is prolly a good idea.. How much manual control do you have of it? Can you adjust the exposure, shutter speed, F, etc..??

I use an Olympus C700, and i can usually get some pretty decent shots...
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GiJoewithKungFuGrip
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USA
43 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  06:11:57  Show Profile  Visit GiJoewithKungFuGrip's Homepage
Take a look at these pics I recently shot at the Athens show. I used a Fuji 2
M with a flash. The beauty of the digitals is that you can raise the camera and use the viewer to get shots above people in front of you.

By the way, I asked Jeremy of The Bennies if it was to cool to use a flasha the show and he said frank didn't mind.


http://photos.yahoo.com/chuckgilliam

"I'll have the cheese and eggs, scrambled,with plain toast,grits,bacon and hashbrowns scattered and covered."
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  07:16:08  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
People are always taking pictures at shows, even if the club says no. I think the Black Cat said no, but this guy had one of the bouncers take two pictures of him. That's not very strict. And my sister has been video taping a lot of The Bennies sets.

www.thebennies.com
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  10:40:28  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I have been to the Avalon before and I know people took pictures. Of course, this was prior to 9/11, so I don't know what the policy is now. You could check out their website and see??

Also, I will be at the show - and I can't wait! Hooray!

girlie so groovy I want you to know...
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theonecontender
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Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 11/26/2002 :  12:54:44  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage
Hmmm.... Camera flash induces terrorism. Interesting hypothesis.
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El Barto
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USA
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Posted - 11/26/2002 :  14:51:08  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Oh my god, I can't believe someone said that *head explodes*

www.thebennies.com
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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2002 :  07:38:59  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I meant in terms of bringing in bags and added crap. Sheesh.

girlie so groovy I want you to know...
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mereubu
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USA
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Posted - 11/30/2002 :  07:48:26  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
I recently contacted SpinArt and asked for some posters to distribute for the Little Rock show. They were very gracious about sending me some and even asked if I had access to a digital camera to take pictures of the show. So, if you have some good pictures, SpinArt might be interested in them. Chris Mooney handles publicity and was nice as pie.
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Qris
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Canada
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Posted - 03/31/2003 :  23:21:52  Show Profile  Visit Qris's Homepage
Hey!
Pix advice:
1. Check with club and don't bring the camera if they say no or have a darn good story ready. Digital cameras are too much money to take chances with. If planning shenanigans, have a fresh roll in the camera. They are within their rights to demand your film so it would suck to loose those baby shower pix that have been kicking around in your camera for 5 months.
2. How pros do it: Most pros are told that they are to take all pictures in the first two songs. I suppose this would vary by venue but it has been standard at all concerts I have shot. This sounds like a drag but it is actually very liberating. You set your camera to "bracket". Elbow up to the front. Fire off your entire roll in the first few minutes and then put it away. Artists look their best at the beginning. Other than progressively more sweaty, any artist will look much the same regardless of the song or stage mood. You can get sad looking expressions in the middle of a happy song or angry expressions in ballads. There is a lot going on on singer's faces as they work them around the notes. Get em looking fresh and full of energy. Artists often ham it up a little if there are a bunch of press guys with their big lenses too.
3. Camera settings. If you can bracket (take three pictures in quick succession at different settings) do it. If your camera has something other than auto exposure settings... turn to centerweighted or spot metering. Cameras are not set up for the weird light of concerts. The bright lit subject and really dim general light makes the camera either think it is too bright or too dark. Many digital cameras can be turned on to "center" or "spot" metering - this pulls the part of the picture that the camera pays attention to into a smaller head-sized area rather than the whole view area. You meter on the person you want (typically aim and slightly depress the shutter button) and then recompose the image and fire.
4. Practice and plan. Buy the right film (at least 800 iso) and know your camera. Fill the frame.

5. Advanced trix: If your camera is able to be set to shutter priority you can work it so the camera won't take a picture if too low light. It sucks to press the button and have nothing happen - but you are happier coming home from the lab.
If you can - set the flash to "rear curtain". Instead of the flash going off at the beginning of the picture when the shutter opens - it waits and flashes just before the shutter closes up again. You can get nifty effects (it is how sports photogs get motion blur with sharp faces) and it lets you shoot at slow speeds. The flash just freezes action - but exposure is already largely over. This effect can make for award winners - but it can also ruin a roll so practice first.

If I get in with my camera I will post some pix.

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thePLASTIC
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Posted - 04/01/2003 :  10:31:49  Show Profile  Visit thePLASTIC's Homepage
i usually use a tripod at shows. using this, the backgrounds come out crystal clear and it really makes the lights look great. the only problem is you have to shoot the subject when they aren't moving much for them not to be a big blur. you can view the pics i took in indianapolis here: http://www.indianapolismusic.net/pics3/frank_black.php

most of them i took with a tripod, some i did not.

-Chris
The Brand Plastic
www.thebrandplastic.com
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thePLASTIC
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Posted - 04/01/2003 :  10:33:05  Show Profile  Visit thePLASTIC's Homepage
also, if you're using a digital camera, knowing how to use photoshop can make your pictures look even better ;)

-Chris
The Brand Plastic
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