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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/21/2002 :  23:56:32  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage
frank (or anybody else who has quotes about it) what's the relationship of these two songs? is it like the two versions of black rider, where one just evolved from the other from goofing around? or is it a more deliberate, hmm, reprise for lack of a better term off the top of my head at 3am. :P

i've always been curious and have never read any anecdotes. maybe because there's nothing interesting there :) just curious.

Edited by - El Barto on 03/23/2003 22:07:09

johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2002 :  15:08:15  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Don't quite know why but I initially related HCYM to "I'm Waiting for the Man" by Velvet Underground. So Lou Reed sings "I'm waiting for my man . . ." Then Black Francis says "Here comes your man."

And isn't "There Goes My Gun" just about that special moment in a man's life when the "gun" goes off?

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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 11/22/2002 :  15:44:44  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage

well i wasn't really thinking lyrically, but musically.

am i the only one who hears HCYM in TGMG? maybe i'm insane.
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Chris Knight
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2002 :  21:09:30  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
You're not insane. I am, however, for implicating 'Where Is My Mind?' in this heretofore unexamined mystery.
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =

Portugal
536 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2002 :  13:55:05  Show Profile
is it just me that hears a resemblance between there goes my gun and hangwire?
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2002 :  15:46:15  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I see a strong resemblance between Wave of Mutilation and Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf). What's up with that?

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Mike Rutherford
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USA
171 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2002 :  17:12:58  Show Profile  Click to see Mike Rutherford's MSN Messenger address
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I see a strong resemblance between Wave of Mutilation and Wave of Mutilation (UK Surf). What's up with that?
Seek some psychological help dude....those two songs are miles apart.....that's as far fetched as comparing Vamos from Pilgrim to Vamos from SR........

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El Barto
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USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 12/06/2002 :  19:47:20  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
The Vamos on SR is way different cause it's all just like "You fuckin die" or something...the song after Vamos on SR sounds a lot more like the Vamos on COP...you know what I mean?

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Chris Knight
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USA
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Posted - 12/07/2002 :  03:06:33  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
Velvety- the verse chord progression of There Goes My Gun is quite similar to the main chord progression used in Hang Wire (though the two have different root notes).
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 12/07/2002 :  03:08:17  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
I am the night owl.
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2002 :  08:28:09  Show Profile
The music to There Goes My Gun always reminded me of Instant Karma by John Lennon. And I always thought Frank kind of sounded like Axyl Rose when he sings "there goes my guuun" even though I've never really like "g n r", but I really like the song.

The sexual "gun" context is probably right, but I always kind of saw it in a violent way. He's calling to a stranger in the distance "friendafoe!" but before he can be totally sure he keeps shooting them anyway, kind of playing it off as an accident.
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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 12/20/2002 :  05:30:05  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
i always liked how HCYM and TGMG were like polar ends of the same idea - one is a melodic singalong, and the other is a very twisted, distorted, not so melodic one about a gun (physical or metaphorical). i think it's cool

-brian

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