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Solidgld
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USA
104 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  14:26:04  Show Profile
Has anyone seen this song live it rock's so hard. It clearly is now my favorite song the long slow intro then the speed of a fast a train then it all crashes together. The end is really sounds very Door's.

She will Reign.

BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  14:43:49  Show Profile
Does this song have anything to do with Frank's suggested website in his profile.....Jain? Me thinks it does!

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

I bid a good-day to you sir!
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  15:48:01  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
The end is very much more like Sonic Youth than the doors.

www.thebennies.com
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  15:54:30  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage
i heard him play it in montreal......very explosive live...taped first 45 min on mp3.

wutchu talkin bout willis?
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Solidgld
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USA
104 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  16:48:06  Show Profile
Like which Sonic Youth not really into them. I'll check em out Thanks.
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madadam
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6 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  18:16:42  Show Profile
hm... jain.
maybe also a reference to a Dylan song: "Queen Jane". they played it in the bowery ballroom after they were done with the show yesterday in new york.

it sure does rock. live and on the album.

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Chip Away Boy
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914 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  20:14:19  Show Profile
great song live...great...wish more people would sing along w/the chorus
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  20:28:10  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
It reminds me most of the end of Karen Koltrane off of "A Thousand Leaves." Although just in general it has a Sonic Youth vibe to it. If you're looking to get into SY, you can't go wrong getting their latest album, Murray Street.

www.thebennies.com
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Solidgld
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USA
104 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2002 :  20:44:45  Show Profile
Murray Street I'll get it and let you know what I think.
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kempes
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Ireland
49 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2002 :  02:56:01  Show Profile
Its obviously just a anagram of Jean, his wife!

There's a few refs to her "hidden" in other songs on other albums!

regards

Kempes
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Jettison
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USA
228 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2002 :  05:33:02  Show Profile  Visit Jettison's Homepage
'Jane, the queen of love' was definitely a show highlite for me.


ps. The Dylan song is called, 'Queen Jane approximately'.

-Jettison
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2002 :  19:19:01  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
not an anagram...i think the technical term is switcharoo.

-dan
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Dishboy007
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USA
13 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  04:21:35  Show Profile  Click to see Dishboy007's MSN Messenger address
How do Bumblebees make love? I don't get that line.

Dishboy007
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Ten Percenter
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United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  05:02:47  Show Profile
Pasted from Song meanings thread, of some assistance perhaps?


quote:
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Originally posted by BrendanT

Oh yeah. I think that Jane Queen of Love is about the spiritual belief called Jain. Look at the web page via Frank's bio. It just gots ta be!

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

Buttercup! Bubbles! Let's go!

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You must be right Bren, there are even a number of references to bumble bees on that site: (From JAINWORLD) The term used for begging in Jainism is madhukari-eating by the bumble bee. Just as a bee takes juice from different flowers without discrimination and without hurting them, similarly the Jain monk takes food from different households in small quantities and without discrimination between rich or poor household or the quality of food offered.

and also: There are in all five senses of touch, taste, smell, sight and hearing and therefore the mobile or many-sensed souls are classified accordingly into four classes, viz.,

chatur-indriya jivas, i.e., those souls which have first four senses of touch, taste, smell and sight, for example, bumble bee, etc., and

Bumble Bee love anyone?
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  10:23:02  Show Profile
I've noticed lots of bands write songs with a "Jane" in them. Dylan had "Queen Jane Approximately", The Clash have "Janie Jones", The Velvet Underground have "Sweet Jane, and Guided by Voices have "Jane, of the Waking Universe". Coincidentally, "Jane" is sung very similiarly to "Jane" in Frank's song.
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  10:25:06  Show Profile
Sorry, to clarify, "Jane" is sung similiarly by both Guided by Voices and Frank. just the "jane" part though, the rest of the chorus sound different.
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2003 :  17:16:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Itchload

I've noticed lots of bands write songs with a "Jane" in them. Dylan had "Queen Jane Approximately", The Clash have "Janie Jones", The Velvet Underground have "Sweet Jane, and Guided by Voices have "Jane, of the Waking Universe". Coincidentally, "Jane" is sung very similiarly to "Jane" in Frank's song.



There was a great Austin, Texas "supergroup" a few years back called the Arc Angels that put out one album and then broke up. It was made up of Stevie Ray Vaughan's rhythm section, Charlie Sexton (who's since played with Bob Dylan and Lucinda Williams among others) and another well-known Austin songwriter.

They had a song that I believe was called "The Legendary Jane", and the lyrics were written from the perspective of imagining that all these classic rock songs like "Queen Jane Approximately" and "Sweet Jane" were actually wriiten about the same exact woman. It was most interesting, and a good song as well.

~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  11:48:28  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Dishboy007

How do Bumblebees make love? I don't get that line.

Dishboy007



It has something to do with the way that bees pollinate various plants indiscriminately, some kind of wider philosophical/spiritual implication that we should disseminate our love indiscriminately....check out that Jainworld link on Franks profile, that will explain it better than I can right now
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6205 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  12:14:26  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
yep, both GBV and FB Jane-lines sound the same.

The songs are very different though.

I always mix the Queen of Love and Of The Waking Universe up for fun...

The songs still sound great


''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  12:23:46  Show Profile
From the Jain site:

"Just as a bee takes juice from different flowers without discrimination and without hurting them, similarly the Jain monk takes food from different households in small quantities and without discrimination between rich or poor household or the quality of food offered."


I don't know about bumble bees, but honey bees actually are very discriminating. If they have been recruited to forage from a particular species of flower they won't forgage from other species even they are right next to each. But, who expects religions to rely on facts.
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  12:52:09  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage
"i love you mary jane....

...sugar come by, get me high"
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astrokaiju
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10 Posts

Posted - 04/02/2003 :  21:45:07  Show Profile
i am just really glad that he posted that link to a Jain website. there are so many people who grossly misundertand Jain Dharma, and most people don't know anything about it at all.
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chipahoyboy
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112 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2003 :  14:32:35  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Itchload

I've noticed lots of bands write songs with a "Jane" in them. Dylan had "Queen Jane Approximately", The Clash have "Janie Jones", The Velvet Underground have "Sweet Jane, and Guided by Voices have "Jane, of the Waking Universe". Coincidentally, "Jane" is sung very similiarly to "Jane" in Frank's song.



Don't forget "Jane Says" by Jane's Addiction
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Hermaphroditos
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USA
20 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2003 :  14:55:49  Show Profile
or how 'bout this! sometimes vocalists sing certain vowel sounds with a little drawl or twang, (depending on their musical upbringing or location in the world). so maybe "Jane" is really "Jean"? but of course, Frank would never reveal that one to us!!!


"Oh pity me Garuda, and turn my hands into wings"
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stymie
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385 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2003 :  20:38:59  Show Profile  Visit stymie's Homepage
420
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Wade
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115 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  16:19:51  Show Profile
hehehe
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  18:06:47  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
9:03 right now....but fuck, its 420 to me! (;
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Chip Away Boy
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914 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  20:27:35  Show Profile
this song rocks my socks off
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2003 :  20:33:26  Show Profile
right off my feet....
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