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ThatOneGirl
- FB Fan -
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 Posted - 12/01/2003 : 14:52:42
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was there anything specific that causes FB to have "ambiguous" feelings towards Kim?? im a newbie.. srry!
"you're so pretty when you're unfaithful to me" |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 14:53:44
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| I'm pretty sure it's because she used to get real drunk and not even show up for concerts. She was almost fired from the band before Bossanova(!!!). |
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ThatOneGirl
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 12/01/2003 : 15:01:01
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i never heard about that... mad crazy.
"you're so pretty when you're unfaithful to me" |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6331 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2003 : 11:08:57
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it is true, although I'm not sure about not showing up, she did get drunk sometimes. The pixies held a secret bandmeeting (without kim) to fire her, but Kim was invited by some 4ad-person so she would show up anyway. She did and got a second change .
That was all before bossanova
 "I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do" |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/03/2003 : 11:15:34
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Originally posted by billgoodman
it is true, although I'm not sure about not showing up, she did get drunk sometimes. The pixies held a secret bandmeeting (without kim) to fire her, but Kim was invited by some 4ad-person so she would show up anyway. She did and got a second change .
That was all before bossanova
"I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do"
Ooooh!!! Got drunk eh? What a waster, what a f****** waster!!! I mean can you imagine where rock n roll would be today without drugs of any kind? Most of the greatest bands in history have had members who like their excess, it goes with the territory. Obviously I am not saying you have to 'cos I don't buy into the image side of rock n roll but when you start a band then I think it's something you have to be prepared for. Surely there was more to it than that. I think there was anyway, something that we will probably never know about. |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2003 : 11:31:44
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Okay...In Joey's own words:
Kim was headstrong and wanted to include her own songs, to explore her own world. The way I think Charles saw it, the band made pizzas, not cookies. Before we made Bossa Nova, we were even going to fire her, after a gig in Frankfurt, where we found her hanging out in her hotel room, with no intention of playing. But our lawyer convinced us to try and work it out., to give her a warning or something. You know, I blocked that incident out of my head, that was too heavy for me. Kim couldn't believe I'd be party to it but I told her, she didn't seem happy, so why hang around? In the end, Kim realised it was Charles's bag, that he was the singer, but they kinda stopped talking after that.
As it turns out, the last show we ever did was in Vancouver, at the end of a tour, and we all just went home. Everybody was under the impression that we were taking a year off, like sabbatical, but it never came to that. Charles started doing his own album, as Frank Black, and Kim started doing The Breeders. Three or four months later, Charles called, out of the blue, at my girlfriend's house, to say he was splitting the band, and that he had faxed Kim and Dave [Lovering]. You'd really have to ask Charles why he broke it up. I think he'd tell you that it was normal, that bands don't last forever. Maybe he just liked being Frank Black rather than Black Francis, or felt he had to move forward. But I'm sure the tension between Kim and Charles had something to do with it.
Charles hasn't even discussed the stuff since: it's not his style to analyse. It wasn't like we ended up fist-fighting or arguing constantly, it was more unspoken tension. Kim phoned me and said, "Did you know that the Pixies just broke up?"; and I replied, "I'd be more surprised if we got back together." I never talked to her about it either, even when The Breeders came through town. But then we never talked about stuff. Maybe that's a Boston thing. I was shocked but what could I do? I thought it was premature because I really thought we could do more. At least our contract said so! But ending that abruptly was weird. |
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