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realmeanmotorscutor
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 Posted - 10/14/2003 : 21:23:32
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Which do you prefer? I prefer the Director's Cut - it leaves things so much more open and me likey that.
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glacial906
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 21:41:52
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The Director's cut is good in that it leaves a little bit more ambiguity about the concept of Deckard being a Replicant. However, I don't think that question was addressed hardly at all in the original movie. But, in interviews with director Ridley Scott, he has several times stressed that Deckard is indeed a Replicant. Whether he intended that from the get-go, we may never know. I think of that as kind of a disappointment, because the mystery was what made the movie. I do think, however, that in the DC they really made obvious the clues toward Deckard being artificial, like the unicorn dream, which was not in the original version.
Another part of me likes the voice-over narraration of the original version, though. Blade Runner is a futuristic crime noir movie, and the narraration fits that mood of the brooding, solitary detective that could've come out of any old 1930's crime movie, which is precisely why Blade Runner works so well. I also liked the last scene better, too, where Deckard and Rachel fly off over the forest in that helicopter or whatever.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 22:00:19
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Glacial, I'm beginning to think I like your style.
I remember reading somewhere that Harrison Ford said they decided, before production in 1982, that Deckard was not a replicant and he was really pissed when he discovered that Scott was saying the exact opposite.
I love the unicorn sequence and the subsequent oragami scene but I like the narration. Before I had seen the narrated version I was told there was a ton of narration but there really wasn't that much - it might have been cooler if it had been narrated throughout.
Has anyone read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" It was good but, in this one case, I'd venture to say the movie is better - that is, this visually pleasing aspect along with the story outdoes what the book is able to convey.
I jut love this movie. This and Dick Tracy.
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apl4eris
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 22:14:14
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Director's Cut. No question. The narration gets on my nerves so much I can't watch it. I have read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?", and personally loved it, but on its own merits. The movie and the book are two different animals in my opinion. Philip K. Dick is an incredible (sorry -was) author. "A Scanner Darkly" is one I highly recommend if you enjoy this movie.
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glacial906
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 22:27:37
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I read "DADOES" too. It was good, but wierd, as are all of Philip K. Dick's books. Read VALIS, and it left my mind boggling. apl4eris, have you read J.K. Jeter's sequels? I read one called "The Edge of Human" which picks up where Blade Runner (the movie) left off, but I choose not to accept that into the BR continuity. (So I don't guess I'm recommending the books...)
realmeanmotorscutor, Blade Runner has to be one of my top favorite movies of all time, the only other movie that remotely compares to it's awesomeness is American Beauty.
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apl4eris
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 22:35:14
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Originally posted by glacial906
I read "DADOES" too. It was good, but wierd, as are all of Philip K. Dick's books. Read VALIS, and it left my mind boggling. apl4eris, have you read J.K. Jeter's sequels? I read one called "The Edge of Human" which picks up where Blade Runner (the movie) left off, but I choose not to accept that into the BR continuity. (So I don't guess I'm recommending the books...)
No, I haven't read his books, I guess luckily so ;). VALIS - I will look into that. I am in the middle of a few books, one of which is frying my poor little and too few brain cells, so it may be a while, but thanks for the recommendation. Have you seen "Wings of Desire" glacial? The original one, by Wim Wenders - I think you may like it, judging from your particular taste in films - it remains one of my favorites.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 22:56:04
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I've read Neuromancer and am trying to remember the relationship between that and "Do Androids Dream...". Were they the same book, or was one based on the other.
I need to see Blade Runner again. I've actually only seen the director's cut, but only vaguely remember it. Neuromancer was a great little book, though.
Am I the only one who... God, I'm afraid to say this for fear that I will garner three nerd alerts in one day... has lists of books/movies/important milestones in culture to go through? Mine are way too large, but I think I'm going to throw Blade Runner back in there.
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apl4eris
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:01:58
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COF, you are not alone. I too have several lists such as the one you describe. And I always forget them when I need them, too! More than likely, you are probably sitting right in the middle of a field o'nerds. :)
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glacial906
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:18:16
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I freely admit to being a nerd. Comics, Blade Runner, computer graphics, history; these are all traits of the dork.
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realmeanmotorscutor
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:23:03
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I'm a bit of a nerd. I have a ton of things to sift through in time. And American Beauty is, of course, amazing - I don't even care if saying that makes me just like everyone else.
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realmeanmotorscutor
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:27:09
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apl, what're you reading right now?
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glacial906
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:28:15
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| Blade Runner, and "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and basically the world of Philip K. Dick, is a major milestone in your trek to full-blown dorkiness. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:30:44
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So where does Gibson fit into the equation?
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glacial906
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:33:11
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:34:49
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William Gibson, author of Neuromancer among others. Part of the inspiration for Blade Runner as I understand it. I'm just really desperately trying to remember the relationship to DADOES or if it was just through the movie.
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glacial906
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Posted - 10/14/2003 : 23:41:20
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 00:03:15
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It was in the late 70's I think. So maybe the other way around. Tomorrow I'm going to have to look this up, cause it's killing me. It was a pretty good read though. Required reading for an English course I took.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 07:28:09
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Originally posted by realmeanmotorscutor
apl, what're you reading right now?
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The one that's frying my measely brain?: "Godel, Escher, Bach: the Eternal Golden Braid", by Douglas R. Hofstadter - I would play a safe bet that you would enjoy it quite a bit.
I wasn't aware of the connection b/w Neuromancer and DADOES, but it seems plausible. BTW, I caught the last half of an interview with Gibson recently, "William Gibson: No Maps For These Territories"...I think it was on IFC or Sundance, or maybe Trio - did anybody else see this? Huh, they have it on Netflix at least:
http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60028592&trkid=73
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