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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2002 :  22:15:31  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
Apparently "I Could Stay Here Forever" couldn't stay here forever, because it's now gone. Here's what's left:

1. Whatever Happened To Pong?
2. Thalassocracy
3. (I Want To Live On An) Abstract Plain
4. Calistan
5. The Vanishing Spies
6. Speedy Marie
7. Headache
8. Sir Rockaby
9. Freedom Rock
11. Fiddle Riddle
12. Olé Mulholland
15. The Hostess With The Mostest
16. Superabound
17. Big Red
18. Space Is Gonna Do Me Good
19. White Noise Maker
20. Pure Denizen Of The Citizens Band
21. Bad, Wicked World
22. Pie In The Sky

I'm going with "The Hostess With The Mostest" to leave next.

Nathan

Edited by - El Barto on 03/23/2003 23:10:45

mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  03:18:26  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
vanishing spies

-miked
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sloe joe
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  03:32:16  Show Profile  Visit sloe joe's Homepage
hostess. the record really loses it impetus between olé and superabound, if you ask me...

joe
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  03:58:38  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
Get rid of headache... I don't like that song very much.
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  05:12:11  Show Profile
Fiddle Riddle
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  05:27:05  Show Profile
does anyone think these threads are kinda annoying?
sorry guys. im sure frank wouldnt be too happy with us dissing his material.



stone to the bone
:o)
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  06:31:55  Show Profile
I don't think we are dissing his material. What I am interested in is finding out which tracks on every album his fans like best, but at this rate it will never happen. Maybe we need to rate an album's tracks in the same way a lot of us ranked his studio albums - and then get some poor sod to tally up the responses. Have I just volunteered myself? Floop, if you ever analyse this - do you think I ever passed (ho ho) the anal phase?
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  06:36:28  Show Profile
thats fair enough. i guess dissing isnt the word.
its just that i love teenager from start to finish - it may not have my fave FB songs on it (ive seen your picture and western star) ... but from pong to pie it sounds perfect just the way it is. imho of course.

cheers lads


i had so many problems..
and then i got me a walkman
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  13:42:03  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
"White Noise Maker" and turn it off. Yakity-yak is long gone.

"Hard not to have fun when you're hitting balls halfway to the moon."
Dusty Baker
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
639 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  14:23:52  Show Profile  Visit steveplymouthuk's Homepage
Space is gonna do me good
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  17:11:01  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
basically every fan likes other songs more than others. this is pointless.

-dan
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  17:14:20  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
I agree, it will never work.....
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  17:22:01  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Hey guys,

This is just a frivilous exercise. It isn't supposed to "work" or have an official "point". It, much like most everything in this forum, is merely an entertaining diversion.

"Hard not to have fun when you're hitting balls halfway to the moon."
Dusty Baker
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  18:47:51  Show Profile
I think it's funny how aboout 6-10 people vote in this game and with about 4 votes a song get's booted. Think about how many Frank Black fans there are. Ok, now make a ratio. "People playing this game (10) to Frank Black fans(X times 1000)". There is no validity. I bet if every frank black fan were polled on their favorite Teenager of the Year song, every single song would be chosen by someone. Probably numerous times.

Derek
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stymie
= Cult of Ray =

385 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  19:40:48  Show Profile  Visit stymie's Homepage
If i was on this site and called myself a frank black fan and, oh wait I am here and I am a fan. I would like every song he has ever sang or written even though I've seen the man quite a few times and after hearing certain songs every show I still don't dis them although I'd like to hear different ones! Grow up and get a new band!
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  19:51:00  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
Is it possible to vote these topics off the message board?
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  22:14:10  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Am I seriously reading this? Maybe it's all tongue-in-cheek?

There are people seriously bent on censoring something as benign as this little diversion?

There are people who truly believe we are attempting to represent a statistically significant cross-section of Frank Black fans?

There are people unaware of the fact that by ranking our favorite ablums or songs or lines, we are implicitly devaluing the others? (Maybe it's a simple matter of semantics. How about we agree to ask people to "vote for" those we want to keep, deftly omitting the one we wish not to see in the next round? Would that be a rosier scenario for everyone?)

And worst of all, there are actually people on this board who are unwilling to posit even a single negative word against Frank Black? I mean, I realize "fan" is short for fanatic, but come on.

Are you all on this board because Frank looks cool or acts cool or says cool things, or at some point, did you actually decide he makes cool music? Or perhaps it's more like you decided not that he makes cool music, but that he cannot, has never, nor will ever fail to make cool music. Does that sound more accurate?

My opinion is that Frank Black is not God. While he is the greatest living musician I'm aware of, he's still just a guy writing and singing some songs. I think he'd be the first to tell you just that. Even he admits he's released some serious trash. And we're not even pushing something like that.

Anyway, I realize I am being a hothead over this, but I am frankly incredulous at reading the posts of people actually wanting to stifle something so harmless and irrelevant. I think if this type of subject bugs you, it might be best to not keep reading all the posts underneath it. Boycott the damn thing, for Pete's sake.

By way of preemption, yeah I do need to take a chill pill, and "just relax" and calm down and not get my panties in a wad and not steal copyrighted Doom wads and all that.

I still love you all like my very own children.

"Hard not to have fun when you're hitting balls halfway to the moon."
Dusty Baker
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  23:39:55  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
I cannot believe people are getting bitchy over a forum subject.... saying that you can never interpret what someone means through text... maybe people are sounding like they are getting fucked off with each other when they in fact mean something completely different.... Still, it makes interesting reading.

My opinion is that if people want to do it then do it, people who don't then don't bother I guess.... For me this isn't the most interesting thread, but then again its not slagging off Frank either... just people having a bit of fun. I still think that too many people like too many different songs and oit will take 200 years to finally dwindle a long album like TOTY down to 1 track. But carry on, I'll still give you input...... as long as Speedy Marie gets #1.

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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
403 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  02:04:04  Show Profile  Click to see Don Eduardo's MSN Messenger address
haha agreed on Speedy Marie....I vote once again for The Vanishing Spies to go next
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7448 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  02:08:57  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
I won't post on every Survivor thread, so just add one vote to get Pure Denizen eliminated each time you start a new thread, and when it's done send me a mail, OK? I'll choose Space Is Gonna Do Me Good after that.


Denis
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  02:44:07  Show Profile
In another thread I rated Cult of Ray as my least fave Frank album, and Bossanova as my least fave Pixies album - but I have a lot of time for them both - I just prefer the others. To me it is harmless - I find it interesting which albums/tracks fans (and we are all fans on this forum!) rate highly. Thus I take the point that it takes too long, and repeat again - should (for those who don't mind participating)we do it the other way round and get people to either rate an entire album's tracks or their fave three choices per album?
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  05:27:46  Show Profile
i it would be interesting to see frank doing this survivor on his own work.

i had so many problems..
and then i got me a walkman
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  06:04:03  Show Profile
I doubt he'd ever do it, he always doubles back when an interviewer asks him his favorite songs, even off the new album. Sometimes he does answer though...i know at the time, he said the last two songs on Frank Black were some of his favorites, and he said End of Miles for the new albums.
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  06:11:56  Show Profile
True, and he mentions that there are some songs in his back catalogue that he regrets, and to my knowledge he has never named any - or does someone know differently?
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pong
= Cult of Ray =

France
315 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  07:22:17  Show Profile  Visit pong's Homepage
i'm glad to see that i'm not the only one who think that THIS tropic suck !

- Pong

"whatever happen to me?"
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  07:39:27  Show Profile
Kind of strange....at the first Horseshoe show someone yelled 'Dance War' and Frank's reply was 'God, what was I smokin' when I wrote that song!' No big deal. The man himself said something about a song he wrote and it has not and will not sway my feelings for the song. Once a recording is out there it is free for interpretation, likes/dislikes and critiquing. I could not give a damn what anyone has to say about any particular song. I can't remember ever skipping over a song to get to the next on any FB album. But hey, that's just me. I have no favourite and will not vote any song off. (actually, one of my most appreciated songs might be Announcement or At The End Of The World)But nobody needs to know that! Come to think of it, I am listening to California Bound at the moment and I think this song is now my favourite!?

Strummer-man
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  08:44:35  Show Profile
The only song I can think of that he panned specifically was "Manta Ray", from the Pixies. Odd because they played it for a John Peel show, but I guess opinions change of your work as you go on. This song is not to be confused with "Dancing the Manta Ray" which Frank clearly loves to play.
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  10:03:37  Show Profile
i think of all the songs he has done.. ramona and adda lee seem to stick out in my mind as two of his most reflective (and i would hope he would mention them as faves) - its cool to write a song about a band who had so much influence on your music career. cue ode to frank...
cheers


i had so many problems..
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  15:09:27  Show Profile
I vote off "Dance War"...Oops, wrong album. "Bad Wicked World" then.
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Grieves
- FB Fan -

USA
33 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  18:41:34  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Don Eduardo

haha agreed on Speedy Marie....I vote once again for The Vanishing Spies to go next



Damn, you want to ditch this one? The music gives me shivers- especially lyle's solo. Give me a blip? No Way!
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2002 :  22:21:21  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by pong

i'm glad to see that i'm not the only one who think that THIS tropic suck !

- Pong




so move to the rainforest.....hahahahahahhahahhahaha
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2002 :  03:37:42  Show Profile
badoom tish!

sorry - couldnt resist


i wash maself with a raaaag on a stick.
huhhhhhhhhhh!
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2002 :  12:58:19  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Hey, c'mon. Don't pick on our "second tongue" using friend.

"Hard not to have fun when you're hitting balls halfway to the moon."
Dusty Baker
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2002 :  15:36:17  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
Hmm...another tie. Anyone else interested in voting?

Nathan
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Brackish Heart
- FB Fan -

Australia
176 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2002 :  14:41:00  Show Profile  Visit Brackish Heart's Homepage  Click to see Brackish Heart's MSN Messenger address
15. The Hostess With The Mostest
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2002 :  14:53:24  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
why waste finger vitality typing your complaint about these posts when you could just not read them. it doesnt really matter that much does it? i dont mind voting... but i already did, so i wont again

-miked
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