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Useyourname
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 Posted - 09/12/2003 : 00:27:58
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Every time Frank puts out a new album, I never like it much the first time I listen and then you know the story you eventually grow to love the damn thing with each listen. How does he do this? I don't think I ever liked any of his albums the first time I heard them.
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 04:58:26
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Well, I reckon thats what makes his albums great..... the Cure used to be good at that too! Saying that, I like SMYT pretty much immediatley which is strange for a FB album.
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 06:12:41
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well said disco Stu. i think its the easiest FB album to get in to right away. love that jaina blues! cheers.
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SelfEscape
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 07:01:57
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| and yet it still gets stuck in your head more and more each time, truly amazing, this is blasphemy, but smyt is probably my favorite since Teenager and Fb, though it caught in my head in the first time, at first I thought it was far too country for my tastes, now I'm annoying the hell out of my gf with it, "its a good cd but listen to something else" which i reply to by playing two more songs and then putting in another fb or pixies disc. Its truly a great album, definetly one of my favorites, probably up there with my all time favorites. Enough gushing, its good, enough said. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 08:23:03
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Anything that's complex takes time to understand and appreciate. That's really all there is to it. I think that if people really (REALLY) listened to classical music more and the complexity there, they would definitely see how amazing some of it is. And it takes really no effort to like instapop right away, but there's nothing there, so you get bored with it very quickly.
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deadlydoctor
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USA
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 09:18:41
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Originally posted by Useyourname
Every time Frank puts out a new album, I never like it much the first time I listen and then you know the story you eventually grow to love the damn thing with each listen. How does he do this? I don't think I ever liked any of his albums the first time I heard them.
That's how I have felt about each of them as well. The ones that really grew on me the most after being a bit disappointing were Devil's Workshop and Black Letter Days.
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Kirk
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 10:22:19
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I figure:
Pop music: catchy because it uses hooks and riffs already used before. You're already familiar with it.
Frank Black: Original from one song to the next and always trying to approach music differently. Something soon to get familiar with.
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2003 : 10:50:35
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for me it has almost always been the way of not liking it at first and then it slowly blooms
as you hear it -anything really good is that subtle yet complex somehow.
instrumentals are exceptions for me personally as i can generally spot one i like right off
and stuff that is obnoxious to me usually is at first and always putrid.
i didn't like London Calling (clash) at first at all and that was my first LP of theirs that i bought and played -about a month later i was a Clashaholic for sure.
this disc is doing that slow burn thing but i usually cut it at coastline and go back to the
heavier stuff -i like that song and manitoba more but they are definitely my least faves as
his work is so traditional in format now that i have a hard time with the really classic
and (to me)overt sappy reference ones -these two embody that to a tee
-although i will admit that there is a time and a place for these songs as i have even experienced that already so all i can say then is that this disc kicks ass.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 09/12/2003 : 14:25:08
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Anything that's complex takes time to understand and appreciate. That's really all there is to it. I think that if people really (REALLY) listened to classical music more and the complexity there, they would definitely see how amazing some of it is. And it takes really no effort to like instapop right away, but there's nothing there, so you get bored with it very quickly.
VERY well said, Dean. I never really thought about that as why you get tired of some songs so quick, but that sounds like a great explanation. |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2003 : 19:41:45
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I wouldn't say Frank's music is complex. I think it's more about subtlety than anything. His hooks are very understated and don't become catchy until you get to know them better.
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IceCream
= Quote Accumulator =
USA
1850 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2003 : 19:54:25
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Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Anything that's complex takes time to understand and appreciate. That's really all there is to it.
Well, I would say complex songs take time to understand, yes, and be catchy enough to hum or remember. However, it only takes me one listen to realize that a song is complex, thus deserving appreciation. When I first heard the song "The Cult of Ray", I knew it was wildly complicated and elaborate. The song has odd time signatures, many separate sections; each one wildly different yet FB somehow links them togesther so perfectly, unusual song structures, very original chord sequences, and numerous different musical parts being played simultaneously. I realized that immediately. What took me a long time to do was be able to listen to the song and remember it well enough that I could know the song by heart.
Same with very many other songs.
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2003 : 19:57:48
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For some reason, the first part of the song "Jaina Blues" off of SMYT reminds me SO MUCH of Creedence Clearwater Revival; I can just imagine John Fogerty singing that song. I don't imagine anyone else has thought of that, but if no one has, just go back, play that song, and imagine. It sounds very 60's to me. (That's not to say it's not a fuckin' killer song.)
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/14/2003 : 21:23:37
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Originally posted by bazza
well said disco Stu. i think its the easiest FB album to get in to right away. love that jaina blues! cheers.
Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.
Disco Stu? What are you on about Cat Bazza?
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 09/15/2003 : 23:01:12
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Hey there Disco Stu,
Disco, teabagging, clopsing...what AREN'T you good at?! (Dunno if "clopsing" is the correct form or not...)
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2003 : 00:31:53
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I ain't good at any of these, except maybe disco after a few beers and Issac Hayes on the duke box. There is a brothel here in Beijing that used to play some excellent music late at night (Dire Straits, the DC, etc etc) which was great. Once I got into a dance war with a fat Russian geyser who was pulling off all kinds of shit (backflips, crazy air guitar etc).... so I tried to outfox him by Cossack Dancing and fell over like a weeble. I looked like a right twat, but it was a laugh. This guy had no shame though, his air guitar moves in front of loads of interested looking prostitutes were second to none.... I would have loved to see a video recording of the whole event.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
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Posted - 09/16/2003 : 00:46:27
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Clearly, Disco Stu is a gifted story teller. That was most amusing sir. Regail 'nother, you Cossack get!
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