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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
 Posted - 09/09/2003 : 07:32:09
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I've been listening to the two live albums available from Hearitagain.net (excellent quality, excellent sets), and I can't help noticing a couple of things.
1. Frank is mighty bored of Pixies songs
2. Frank is might proud of SMYT songs
I remember the first time I heard "Where is my mind" live (never having had the pleasure of hearing the Pixies live) and actually feeling the hairs prick on the back of my neck when the "ooh hoo"s started. I expected a similarly delicious morsels from the new live shows, but it's just not there. Maybe its just because I'm not actually there but, they just seem flat, lifeless, noodly and utterly lacking in passion a bile....
And then there's the new stuff, Manitoba , Massif Centrale, Nadine, New House of the Pope; all played with gusto and energy that lifts them above all the other songs in the set...
Maybe its just me, and I never thought I'd say it with any real conviction but I think I finally prefer Frank Black to the Pixies...
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free |
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
632 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 07:34:42
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possibly, but I think he still loves Gouge Away, as all of the live versions i've heard by FB&Tcs have rocked ! I mean, the Live version on Nadine cd single is absolutely brilliant with the keyboards
~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC |
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 07:39:22
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Think I agree on Gouge Away, get the sense that Mr Grieves, Where is My Mind and (gasp) Wave of Mutilation are just banged through
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 09/09/2003 : 09:19:50
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| does frank have like around 10 pixies songs he could possibly play live, or does he randomly pick a few? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 09:41:32
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What do you mean, PixieSteve? He has the whole catalog to choose from since he wrote every song. But, do you mean are there around 10 songs that he regularly plays?
Sorry, not trying to be bitchy, I'm just confused. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:12:05
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| Aye, and he chose Gouge Away to be on that single... |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:14:09
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I'd really like to get a copy of that single since I was at the show, but we don't seem to have it around here. Was it available for online order or anything? I don't remember anymore. Does someone have a store nearby selling them?
 "Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:14:12
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yeah sorry, it's just that i think i read somewhere that he has sort of narrowed all his pixies songs into an elite bunch, which he still plays. i was was wondering if that's so, or if he plays any of his whole collection of pixies songs.
if it's just a few that he usually plays, which ones are they? i've heard of gouge away a lot, and in this thread where is my mind?, mr. grieves and wave of mutilaton. any others? |
Edited by - PixieSteve on 09/09/2003 10:15:55 |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:37:40
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Nah, just a few. Think they're posted somewhere, but if not:
Full-band currently:
Gouge Away
Monkey Gone To Heaven
Where Is My Mind
Mr. Grieves
Cactus
Crackity Jones
Holiday Song (less often now, but I think he played it here in S'toon)
Solo
Velouria
Wave of Mutilation
Into The White
Caribou
Not inclusive, but off the top of my head that's what I've got.
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:40:15
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| He played Holiday Song, Cactus, Monkey, Nimrods Son, Where is my Mind, and Wave of Mutilation when I saw him solo in May. |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:42:31
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Originally posted by the thing
I've been listening to the two live albums available from Hearitagain.net (excellent quality, excellent sets), and I can't help noticing a couple of things.
1. Frank is mighty bored of Pixies songs
2. Frank is might proud of SMYT songs
I remember the first time I heard "Where is my mind" live (never having had the pleasure of hearing the Pixies live) and actually feeling the hairs prick on the back of my neck when the "ooh hoo"s started. I expected a similarly delicious morsels from the new live shows, but it's just not there. Maybe its just because I'm not actually there but, they just seem flat, lifeless, noodly and utterly lacking in passion a bile....
i imagine if he were bored of the songs he wouldn't play them.
as for the "ooh hoo"s the reason they are lacking on the recordings is because no one in the band does them....it was/is always the audienece that starts doing them. |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 10:43:40
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| thank you, that's great! |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 11:07:24
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Here's the full list of every Pixies song he's played solo/with Catholics:
1. Caribou
2. Holiday Song
3. Nimrod's Son
4. Where is My Mind?
5. Cactus
6. Wave of Mutilation
7. Monkey Gone to Heaven
8. Mr. Grieves
9. Crackity Jones
10. Hey
11. Gouge Away
12. Into the White
13. Velouria
14. Dancing the Manta Ray |
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 13:50:49
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Originally posted by ramona
He played Holiday Song
As this is my favorite Pixies song, I'd kill for a live Frank Black (solo or with the Catholics) MP3 of it; but it's not available via any of the FTP shows. Does anyone have a copy they'd be willing to point me to, or e-mail to me?
-=Apesy |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 15:52:17
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| e-mail me at noexx@hotmail.com i run a server with lots of shows on it |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 09/09/2003 : 18:40:19
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I don't especially wait for him to play Pixies songs...I'd rather him play FB&TC songs. But I do not regret ever seeing "Holiday Song," "Cactus," "Crackity Jones" and especially "Gouge Away" live.
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FRANK BLACK SATAN WORKSHIP BLACK MASS |
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Omer
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 09/09/2003 : 21:01:23
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| I never heard about a live F. B version of 'Hey'. Also, there was a roumer FB did 'Alison' a while back, but there has been no cofirmation |
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 03:00:51
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He did almost the entire backcatalog on "The Dream is Over", live solo just after the Pixies split up - quite rare now though
Live at Slims - from HearItAgain.net has the most Pixies songs of any set I've seen, or seen listed (but then it is a really long set) - Where is my Mind, Wave of Mutilation, Gouge Away, Mr Grieves, Holiday Song, Nimrods Son, Cactus, Monkey Gone to Heaven, Crackity Jones.
Another thing - Frank originally covered Hang on to Your Ego with the Pixies - so do that count as a Pixies song??
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free |
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the thing
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
313 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 03:02:33
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Can you imagine Bird Dream of The Olympus Mons done by FB&TCs - (preferably with Eric on the organ of course) - that would be truly a site to see
My head was feeling scared, but my heart was feeling free |
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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
345 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 04:08:32
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| The Dream is Over was recorded before Trompe was released, and does not feature any Trompe songs. |
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
395 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 07:06:08
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I did find a solo version of Planet of Sound once, which was weird as I didn't think he did any solo shows around 'Trompe' time.
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 18:13:32
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| in 1991 he did quite a few solo shows. |
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Chroneos
- FB Fan -
USA
198 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 18:40:38
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Gouge Away has become a Catholics song in its Nadine EP incarnation, that EP seems to indicate what live songs Frank enjoys (and thus plays better than others) ... I only wish it had the slow part of Los Angeles, but then I guess there's no real way to express Rich Gilbert's way of "handling" the song's change without being there. ;-)
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There's a reason there's a banana in my ear. I'm trying to lure the monkey out of my head. |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2003 : 23:56:25
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| I love 'Ego'.... |
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
7443 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2003 : 01:00:59
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I have an acoustic show from 1991 (actually not a solo show, it's Frank and Joey) where they play Head On.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2003 : 07:29:06
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Chroneos, drop me an email and I'll hook you up with the rest of that show.
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
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night on my side
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 09/11/2003 : 15:58:05
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Last time I saw him he started his set with six Pixies songs, and it looked to me like he enjoyed playing every one of them.
It was a neat moment when "Where is my Mind" started before the curtain even came up. Everybody in the place was like, "Holy shit!"
Holiday
Hideaway
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